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  • #61
    there is a chance rolando WONT be there at 11. i heard we might take him at 11.
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    • #62
      This part of the article is encouraging for all the McClain fans (I'm one of them), however, my optimism is guarded....Seems more like posturing? Hurry up Thursday night!


      Krieger- "But McClain is the guy they need most. Not since Al Wilson have the Broncos had a fire-breathing leader in the middle of their defense. They've already opened the spot by releasing Andra Davis, who started beside D.J. Williams at inside linebacker last season. McDaniels has worked with Alabama coach Nick Saban and knows how much responsibility McClain was given to run a defense of pro-style complexity.

      It is as if McClain were built to the specifications McDan- iels keeps talking about — smart, tough, fast, strong. If the Broncos want to stop getting manhandled, a 6-4, 258- pound inside linebacker is an excellent place to start.

      "I'm not sure I've met a young man as intelligent relative to the game of football (as) Rolando McClain," McDaniels said. "He's obviously been well-coached, but even if you're coached well, it takes another side to get to where he's at. He's obviously done a lot of listening, studying and understands the game at a level where most kids that come in as rookies will never be at."

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BroncoFanBoy View Post
        there is a chance rolando WONT be there at 11. i heard we might take him at 11.
        your missing the point of my post....if you are a team that needs an every down LB then mclain is your man, but with us having dj as our every down backer, taking a 2 down thumper with the 11th pick is not a good value IMO

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ravage!!! View Post
          I'm just not as big on Pouncey as some to be. I don't think he's the right guy. Could be completely off, but I have a concern that he never snapped with QB under center, and was never responsible for calling the OL.
          I'm not too huge on Pouncey, either, but it's not for that reason. I'm concerned about his worth as a 1st round center... rarely are centers taken in the first round, and there are generally ALWAYS good interior lineman deeper in the draft at a much better value.

          Dating back to 1990, Here are all the Centers drafted in the first round
          1) LA Rams - 1990 - Bern Brostek (BUST)
          2) Cleveland Browns - 1993 - Steve Everitt (BUST)
          3) New England Patriots - 1999 - Damien Woody (Pro-Bowl, fell off face of earth due to injury.)
          4) Cleveland Browns - 2003 - Jeff Faine (Pro-Bowl Alternate, traded after 3 years)
          5) Seattle Seahawks - 2005 - Chris Spencer (Non-pro bowl starter)
          6) New York Jets - 2006 - Nick Mangold (Pro-bowl)
          7) Cleveland Browns - 2009 - Alex Mack (Too early to tell, did start)

          For some reason, i just think people are jumping the gun on the Center position. From that list, (Discounting Mack) only 33% of the Centers drafted in round 1 became Pro-Bowl starters.

          Consindering there are 2 starters to every pro-bowl, and 1990-2009 totals 20 Pro-Bowls, meaning 40 starters, a 1st round center has only started 3 times (Damien Woody once, Nick Mangold twice),

          Out of 40 starters, only 3 of them have been first round centers, meaning that 92.5% of the time, the Pro-Bowl center was selected after the first round.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BroncoFanBoy View Post
            plus he was center for tim tebow at florida. thats why he wouldnt allow sacks. im not saying pouncey sucks, but id rather get JD Walton in the second. i dont want pouncey either.
            EXACTLy the player I was thinking whom I would rather have. Pouncey NEVER snapped to a QB who was under center. Thats bothersome to me. THat kind of timing and work takes time and experience to learn.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ahrum View Post
              I'm not too huge on Pouncey, either, but it's not for that reason. I'm concerned about his worth as a 1st round center... rarely are centers taken in the first round, and there are generally ALWAYS good interior lineman deeper in the draft at a much better value.

              Dating back to 1990, Here are all the Centers drafted in the first round
              1) LA Rams - 1990 - Bern Brostek (BUST)
              2) Cleveland Browns - 1993 - Steve Everitt (BUST)
              3) New England Patriots - 1999 - Damien Woody (Pro-Bowl, fell off face of earth due to injury.)
              4) Cleveland Browns - 2003 - Jeff Faine (Pro-Bowl Alternate, traded after 3 years)
              5) Seattle Seahawks - 2005 - Chris Spencer (Non-pro bowl starter)
              6) New York Jets - 2006 - Nick Mangold (Pro-bowl)
              7) Cleveland Browns - 2009 - Alex Mack (Too early to tell, did start)

              For some reason, i just think people are jumping the gun on the Center position. From that list, (Discounting Mack) only 33% of the Centers drafted in round 1 became Pro-Bowl starters.

              Consindering there are 2 starters to every pro-bowl, and 1990-2009 totals 20 Pro-Bowls, meaning 40 starters, a 1st round center has only started 3 times (Damien Woody once, Nick Mangold twice),

              Out of 40 starters, only 3 of them have been first round centers, meaning that 92.5% of the time, the Pro-Bowl center was selected after the first round.
              Great points. If we are talking about a guy that is considered to be the best center to come out of college in the last decade......then I can see the upside and reasoning for taking him. But he's not even the lone consensus of being the best Center in this draft.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ravage!!! View Post
                EXACTLy the player I was thinking whom I would rather have. Pouncey NEVER snapped to a QB who was under center. Thats bothersome to me. THat kind of timing and work takes time and experience to learn.
                That doesn't bother me as much as the fact he's not as big as Florida had him listed at. Either way, he's a lot less likely to get slapped around at the LOS than, well, you know....

                Personally, I would rather take Odrick or Bryant, then take a quality Center in the 2nd or 3rd. If Pouncey is higher on McD's draft board than those two he would hopefully trade back.
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                • #68
                  Ahrum, "My main goal is to have 3 D. Williams on the team." It's a damn shame that we don't have two right now. RIP Darrent.

                  On to brighter topics. I'm not huge on Pouncey either, but if he falls to us in the early 2nd, I say take him. I've seen his stock falling lately and we could see him there. Not likely, but possible. He has the tools to be a pro-bowler, but lacks experience. Like someone else posted, he played in a shotgun 99% of the time, didn't have to make OL calls for protection, and allowed so few sacks cuz Timmy was running around like a maniac.
                  If we trade down in the first, pick up Iupati over Pouncey all day.

                  McClain has to be our #11 pick. He's the only player that will be available to us that isn't a risk and with the $$$ at 11, we can't afford a risk with all of our holes.
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                  1st: R. McClain-ILB
                  2nd: V. Ducasse-G
                  2nd: T. Cody-NT
                  3rd: C. Mitchell-WR
                  4th: D. LeFevour-QB
                  5th: J.D. Walton-C/G
                  6th: F. Barnes-WR

                  Undrafted FA
                  Alphonso Smith-RB/KR (Kentucky)
                  Trindon Holliday-KR/PR (LSU)
                  Micah Johnson-ILB (Kentucky)

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                  • #69
                    I'm kinda warming up to the idea of adding McClain, but I'd still rather see us go in a different direction. The amount of money we'd have invested in our two ILB's would be tops in the league and I really don't think McClain is worth the 11th overall pick.

                    That being said, I'd be okay with it, but other selections would make me much happier.

                    Just no OT or OLB and I think I'll be appeased at #11

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                    • #70
                      McClain will go in the top 15, so picking him at 11 is far from a reach or too high for him.
                      The most expensive ILB tandem? Who cares if we're tops in the league in run D. On top of that, look at the $ we have invested in our QBs, WRs, TEs (once Scheff's gone). We are well below average for salary in those positions which makes the ILB money not a factor IMO.

                      I don't think you have to worry about OT or OLB at 11. We're set at OT with the Ryans and after spending a 1st on Ayers last year, we're not going that route again. It will be McClain, Dez, or a trade down with the 49ers at 17 to get Pouncey or Iupati before the Stillers get them at 18.
                      Last edited by JayP; 04-17-2010, 11:07 AM.
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                      1st: R. McClain-ILB
                      2nd: V. Ducasse-G
                      2nd: T. Cody-NT
                      3rd: C. Mitchell-WR
                      4th: D. LeFevour-QB
                      5th: J.D. Walton-C/G
                      6th: F. Barnes-WR

                      Undrafted FA
                      Alphonso Smith-RB/KR (Kentucky)
                      Trindon Holliday-KR/PR (LSU)
                      Micah Johnson-ILB (Kentucky)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by MFJ View Post
                        This part of the article is encouraging for all the McClain fans (I'm one of them), however, my optimism is guarded....Seems more like posturing? Hurry up Thursday night!


                        Krieger- "But McClain is the guy they need most. Not since Al Wilson have the Broncos had a fire-breathing leader in the middle of their defense. They've already opened the spot by releasing Andra Davis, who started beside D.J. Williams at inside linebacker last season. McDaniels has worked with Alabama coach Nick Saban and knows how much responsibility McClain was given to run a defense of pro-style complexity.

                        It is as if McClain were built to the specifications McDan- iels keeps talking about — smart, tough, fast, strong. If the Broncos want to stop getting manhandled, a 6-4, 258- pound inside linebacker is an excellent place to start.

                        "I'm not sure I've met a young man as intelligent relative to the game of football (as) Rolando McClain," McDaniels said. "He's obviously been well-coached, but even if you're coached well, it takes another side to get to where he's at. He's obviously done a lot of listening, studying and understands the game at a level where most kids that come in as rookies will never be at."
                        He said the exact same thing about Tebow's intelligence.

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                        • #72
                          This article make some great points about McClain and our need to get physical on both sides of the ball. He also made a good point about picking Dez and only accomplishing staying status quo.

                          However, I think we can draft Dez and then address our front sevens physicality in rounds 2-4 e.g. Duccase, Walton, Spikes, Gerhart etc.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
                            That doesn't bother me as much as the fact he's not as big as Florida had him listed at. Either way, he's a lot less likely to get slapped around at the LOS than, well, you know....

                            Personally, I would rather take Odrick or Bryant, then take a quality Center in the 2nd or 3rd. If Pouncey is higher on McD's draft board than those two he would hopefully trade back.
                            I would much rather approach taking a center in the 2nd as well.

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                            • #74
                              Im all for drafting McClain. He would give us probably the most formidable LB core in the entire NFL.

                              -DOOM - DJ - McClain - Ayers

                              Looks sexy doesn't it...?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by d-bronx42 View Post
                                Im all for drafting McClain. He would give us probably the most formidable LB core in the entire NFL.

                                -DOOM - DJ - McClain - Ayers

                                Looks sexy doesn't it...?
                                That just sounds so good!

                                I realize LBs are the most plentiful postion in the NFL, but being a Denver fan I have always thought LBs to be our face of our defense. I want our LBs to to scare the other teams. Mcclains the final piece to the puzzle.

                                Also, drafting a center at 11 is way, way, way, to high. The postional value of a C is far less than most position on both offense and defense.

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