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  • #16
    Originally posted by Alastor View Post
    Seriously. Look at one of the Wonderlics that were actually given.

    Most of the people on this board could have four beers in 20 minutes and still score a 30.



    ... Whoa...

    Either we have really bright people on this board, or I grossly over-estimate the average human being.
    I'd have to say based on some of the posts I read on a daily basis it's probably the latter
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    • #17


      Chris Baker = 11
      Knowshon Moreno = 13

      I hope it does not mean much, at least for a RB I think it doesn't

      Percy Harvin scored a 12 and was rookie of the year
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      • #18
        I took an online version once and scored a 39. Not that I'm bragging. I actually thought it was completely absurd. It only really measures a very narrow type of intelligence, and would seem to me to have very little to do with a person's actual ability to learn and apply football concepts. The fact that Marino scored a 16 would seem to bare that out.

        That it's timed is probably the only really useful aspect to it as that measures cognitive speed rather than actual intelligence. The ability to process information quickly is much more useful in football than the type of intelligence the Wonderlic measures.
        Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

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        Yards, without points, mean nothing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DancingHorsey View Post
          I took an online version once and scored a 39. Not that I'm bragging. I actually thought it was completely absurd. It only really measures a very narrow type of intelligence, and would seem to me to have very little to do with a person's actual ability to learn and apply football concepts. The fact that Marino scored a 16 would seem to bare that out.

          That it's timed is probably the only really useful aspect to it as that measures cognitive speed rather than actual intelligence. The ability to process information quickly is much more useful in football than the type of intelligence the Wonderlic measures.
          In the NFL players need to read and dissect the opposite side of the field with speed and efficiency, due to the pace at which the game is played on this level.

          In one sentence you say it measures cognitive speed, then in the very next sentence you say it's doesn't?
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          • #20
            Below is a site that has the scores of some well respected players. At least Tebow scored better than Dan Moreno.

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            • #21
              The Wonderlic measures intelligence in the same way SATs and IQ tests measure intelligence. I.e. not at all. What it does measure is your ability to apply algorithms quickly, so I guess if a player memorized the 'correct' responses to given situations it might be useful. That said, it seems like spacial reasoning, instinct, and muscle memory would be infinitely more important, so I guess I really don't see the point.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                Wow, 4 players in the Top 20 in Wonderlic scores...



                http://coloradosportsdesk.com/wp/arc...erlic-wonders/
                I took the Wonderlic for a in a job interview once. I do not know what I scored, but the fact I did not get the job prob means I did not do all that well.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                  In the NFL players need to read and dissect the opposite side of the field with speed and efficiency, due to the pace at which the game is played on this level.

                  In one sentence you say it measures cognitive speed, then in the very next sentence you say it's doesn't?
                  Umm...no

                  What I was saying was that the type of intelligence it measures is pretty much useless as applied to football. Cognitive speed really isn't a type of intelligence so much as the speed at which one processes information.

                  As an example you have elite speed chess players and elite traditional chess players (who may take many minutes per move). As a general rule elite speed chess players are no where near the level of players elite traditional chess players are if they are playing at a normal pace. Conversely, once the game is sped up the speed chess players universally dominate. The speed with which one processes information is very different from the quality of said processing.

                  My point was that the only useful element of the Wonderlic was the timed element as it relates to the fast pace of the game of football, but that the actual type of intelligence measured is almost completely unrelated to the game football.
                  Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Southstander View Post
                    I took the Wonderlic for a in a job interview once. I do not know what I scored, but the fact I did not get the job prob means I did not do all that well.
                    What kind of job was it for? In some cases they might not want too high a score.
                    Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

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                    Yards, without points, mean nothing.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pratama View Post
                      Isnt the center like the QB for the Oline? Doesnt he have to read blitz packages, adjust protections, etc? He's gotta be smart. "Dumb jocks" are less and less prevalent in the NFL - the game has gotten so complicated.
                      They are the first to touch the ball. They are the ones who will generally recognize a need for a blocking shift. They have to be able to see problems in the blocking scheme and make adjustments. Really the C is a thinking mans position kinda like catcher, not much glory but a team falls apart without them. Walton is a great C to have intelligent a leader durable and skilled. He has one poblem and thats the fact that he has maxed out his frame and he isnt the most smooth blocker with a limited initial kick. Still I think he is a good future Bronco
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                      • #26
                        Clady only got a 13...

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                        • #27
                          How do Myron Rolle not score the highest. He is a Rhode Scholar!! That makes no sense, but congrats to Eric Decker.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DancingHorsey View Post
                            What kind of job was it for? In some cases they might not want too high a score.
                            LOL. I was for a bank teller.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Southstander View Post
                              LOL. I was for a bank teller.
                              Chemist – 32
                              Programmer – 29
                              Journalist – 26
                              Sales – 24
                              Bank teller – 22
                              Clerical worker – 21
                              Security guard – 17
                              Warehouse – 15

                              You need to be as smart a TE, I need to take that so I can be a Programmer or Chemist lol I have a feeling it isnt much different then FE exam I just took lol. I wonder how Beadles did on that
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by REPPINTHE303 View Post
                                How do Myron Rolle not score the highest. He is a Rhode Scholar!! That makes no sense, but congrats to Eric Decker.
                                Seriously, go look at one of these tests. They're so stupid I'd pretty much just look at it, be insulted, answer the easy ones and leave the rest blank.

                                Honestly, they're a joke.

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