Tom Brandstater

[Broncos-R-Great]

Not on the 53 man or 54 active roster.

Sigh....So many want to argue around here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=nyj

[FL BRONCO]

I think you put Tom on practice squad and he becomes part of active roster next year.
Why bring in a new guy next year when you have one who will have been trained in your system for 2 years.

Next year there is a real possibility Orton will leave via free agency, I would, He will probably get a better offer and be a starter somewhere else and the writing is on the wall here. Also, there is no saying Quinn will be a long term prospect here, Tim was 1st round so logic says he will be a starter within a couple of years that leaves Quinn as back up here, he also might be able to start somewhere else. Tom can easily be 3 or 2 on active roster within a year or 2 and he will have a couple of years under his belt in system. If you want value for the player we are better off trading Orton now and moving on but the problem with that is very young Oline and Orton has more experience in league and system none of others have any game experience in system. So, we probably keep him one more year.

[Jay3]

Not on the 53 man or 54 active roster.

Sigh....So many want to argue around here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=nyj

72 players shown on that depth chart.

Check the transactions. Ryan carried two quarterbacks on the active roster late in the season.

[Broncos-R-Great]

72 players shown on that depth chart.

Check the transactions. Ryan carried two quarterbacks on the active roster late in the season.

Look at the date, last updated October 27th 2009,

http://www.jetsinsider.com/depth_chart.php

[Jay3]

Look at the date, last updated October 27th 2009,
http://www.jetsinsider.com/depth_chart.php

Well, then I guess the Jets got LaDanian Tomlinson sooner than I had realized, cuz he's on that depth chart.

[Joshecalpoly]

Its been done before ESPN was saying how several teams in history have carried 4 QB's one of them was the Pats when they one the SB in Tom's first year

To be honest I think 3 is to much having more then 2 on the list is wasted space. I like having an emergency QB, which is usually a WR who was converted from QB. Which is why I wanted Armanti Edwards who was projected in the 6th or 7th round but Carolina drafted him in the 3rd. If they were thinking of using him as a QB they would be going into the pre-season with 5 QB's
* 14 Hunter Cantwell
* 2 Jimmy Clausen
* 3 Matt Moore
* 16 Tony Pike

[Cutler4tw]

i hope we keep Tom i think he could be better than Orton Quinn or Tebow i really like the kid hes big mobile enough and hes got a strong arm i hope we give him a chance to legitly compete for a roster spot on this team

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

There's probably a real possibility that McD shops Quinn now (in fairness to him), because Quinn was the "in case we don't get Tebow" trade. Quinn has a little bit of value if McD says now "I think he's good, and I haven't even gotten started. We're taking a shot with Tebow, so Quinn will land somewhere."
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I agree with this quote,but i think it will be Orton leaving not Quinn.Also,Brandstater have looked very impressive to me and lead the team in preseason over the Arizona Cardinals,in my book Brandstater is 1-0 as a starter,and thats a better record than all 3 QBs.I still want to see a lot more from Brandstater to see how he has progressed since the Arizona Preseason game.


I just wish he could have gotton into the games against Washington and San Diego last season over Simms,maybe we would have made the playoffs,i guess we will never know that.

[IbarHarry]

I keep calling Tom the Rodny Dayngerfield of our QB's. We have a few clues as to what Josh might be thinking, but it really is confusing with every thing that has been happening with respect to the QB position.

Whenever Tom's name has come up in a news conference, Josh has made complimentary statements about Tom. However, if you look at game play you don't find much.

As I have indicated that might simply be because of the 3rd string rule and they might have lost him if they had put him on the PUP squad. I think Josh kept him on the roster, because of what happened to both Orton and Simms in preseason and he knew he could use the 3rd string rule. Josh feared reinjury of his primary QB's.

Lately when Josh talks about Tom he is generally talking about him being in the building. I would assume that means more than just in the weight room. I'm beginning to wonder if may be Tom is working his way into some kind of administrative position with the Bronco's like helping Josh put together the plays/playbook for the new season.

From everything I have heard Tom is a workaholic and loves football. He is very intelligent and was an excellent student. If you think about it he has a lot in common with Josh. Tom went to a non-name school in a lot of people's eyes and loved the game. Josh knew he wasn't going to play big time ball, but he wanted to be involved in football. Has Josh convinced Tom to do the same thing? Just a thought I have no first hand evidence.

We had one report claiming Tom might be better than a lot of people think. It is possible, because when Tony was released Josh indicated we had a player who has been working very hard that most have not seen. Josh indicated that person was more than an adequate replacement for Tony.

As some one pointed out Quinn is really in an odd position like Tom. If you look at trade value Tom has none, but Quinn does. As it stands now, if you believe all of the posters, Quinn is going to be at best a backup QB. I would think that is not what Quinn has in mind.

My personal feeling is that nothing is going to happen for a period of time, because they may well be worried about the injury bug. A lot can happen on any given day in the game of football.

We may not see any movement until after the OTAs or TC. People will get their reps and evaluations will be made. The press and Josh will start talking about what they are seeing and who are getting reps. I suspect then we will have a better idea.

Perhapes a team will lose a QB and want some one like Quinn or Orton. If the price is right, I would venture Josh would move either player if he is comfortible with his future QB. That could be either Brady, Tim, or Tom.

[Holger_Danske]

There's probably a real possibility that McD shops Quinn now (in fairness to him), because Quinn was the "in case we don't get Tebow" trade. Quinn has a little bit of value if McD says now "I think he's good, and I haven't even gotten started. We're taking a shot with Tebow, so Quinn will land somewhere."

Because I see Brandstater more as a natural #3 guy than either Quinn or Orton. (I'm purposely leaving Tebow out because he's going to get his shot at moving up, sooner or later. So I'm removing him and imagining which of the other three I would envision leaving).

I'm not thinking they're shopping Quinn, really. I read today that they're quite impressed with his work so far.

[Broncos-R-Great]

Well, then I guess the Jets got LaDanian Tomlinson sooner than I had realized, cuz he's on that depth chart.

I don't get what you're arguing about, if Kevin O'Connell and Erik Ainge weren't on the roster then where were they? They weren't on the practice squad, and they didn't magically appear. I'm just curious what your thinking is, how did those two get on the roster? Maybe Rex Ryan knows some crazy trick and can keep more than 53 players.

Here's the Jets practice squad if you don't believe me:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/09/ny_jets_announce_eightman_prac.html

Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemmons, Erik Ainge, and Kevin O'Connell = 4 QBs, they were all on the roster last year, and not on the practice squad.

[BroncosFanAddict23]

How much playing time do you see him getting during the preseason? The two backups ahead of him are much more talented, are both in their first season with the team, and will get most if not all of the playing/development time during the preseason. I wouldn't be shocked if Brandstater doesn't see the field during preseason.

the 3rd preseason game is when we'll see him if at all.