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  • #31
    Arrington traded to Eagles

    Denver and Philadelphia agreed to a trade: Broncos trade RB J.J. Arrington to Eagles for LB Joe Mays.

    http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/19955629092

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    • #32
      I think this means Ayodele is going to get cut

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Amari24 View Post
        Don't forget about Bruton, he was a monster last season.
        I didn't forget about Bruton. But it something about a LB running full speed to hit somebody. Mays is 5'11 250.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
          I think this means Ayodele is going to get cut
          Ayodele is already 31 I think, so I wouldn't be surprised..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JayJack View Post
            Sheldon Brown just got traded this offseason to the Browns. So, there is no way possible he was involved in the trade. Philly drafted him in the 6th rd in the 08 draft.
            Yeah I realized that a few mins after I posted. I was thinking of another player and their name is on the tip of my tongue, I just can't think of it. Its bugging me so I'm going to look into it. I don't know who Joe Mays is.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
              I think this means Ayodele is going to get cut
              Or it could mean that McD might try mays out as a FB.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by I Eat Staples View Post
                True, and we did ship him to the NFC so we don't have to worry about helping our competition even in the slightest bit.
                That's a good point. We seem to do a lot of deals with the Eagles and other NFC teams.
                Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                He's a prototypical TED LB, not quite fast enough to play 4-3 MLB in the Eagles type of defense. Good fit at TED and can develop into a solid starter
                That would explain his struggles there. Plus, he's coming into welcoming party of former Eagles to help him ease into the crowd. He'll grow comfortable fast I hope.

                Originally posted by JayJack View Post
                Mays and Larsen on ST's is a frightening thought.
                We really do have equal focus on all three phases it seems. I like the philosophy though, it can't hurt to focus on an advantage few teams analyze in-depth. Allows for an edge.
                Brock you like a hurricane!
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                Think of a bigger, stronger, more handsome Eli Manning.... That's Fargo.

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                • #38
                  Eagles also get a 2012 conditional pick, source said, in the Arrington/Mays deal

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by I Eat Staples View Post
                    Yeah I realized that a few mins after I posted. I was thinking of another player and their name is on the tip of my tongue, I just can't think of it. Its bugging me so I'm going to look into it. I don't know who Joe Mays is.
                    Alex Hall and 2 draft picks

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                    • #40
                      Eagles fan:
                      Arrington sucks. Mays sucks. Seems fair I suppose.

                      Mays is a god awful fit for the 3-4. The man can't shed a block to save his life. I doubt either player makes their team.
                      Maybe he's angry.

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                      • #41
                        Here is Mays' scouting profile when he was coming out, NFLDRAFTSCOUT.

                        Overview

                        A powerfully built linebacker known for his outstanding performances in the training room and bone-jarring hits on the playing field.

                        Mays has the ability to generate explosion on contact and has had good success dislodging the ball from ballcarriers during his three years as a starter.

                        The 2007 Great West Football Conference Defensive Player of the Year has always been a tremendous hitter who turns heads with his "de-cleater" tackles. He has excellent quickness for his size and was the unquestioned defensive leader in the middle of the field. He has solid football instincts and is always around the action.

                        Mays was a standout linebacker at Hyde Park High School, where he was a two-time first- team All-Conference performer and a first team All-City selection for head coach Wesley Yates. He recorded 115 tackles his senior season, including 16 sacks and had a pair of interceptions. He also produced 110 tackles his junior campaign.

                        Mays enrolled at North Dakota State in 2003, spending the season with the scout team. He played in 11 games as a reserve inside linebacker and special-teamer in 2004. That season, he registered 45 tackles (28 solo) with three sacks and five stops for losses.

                        Mays earned first-team All-Great West Football Conference honors from the media and was chosen to Football Gazette's All-Region second-team in 2005. He took over middle linebacker chores, pacing the Bison with 83 tackles (48 solo). He added four sacks, 10.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and eight pressures. He also picked off three passes and caused two fumbles.

                        The North Dakota State middle linebacker was limited at midseason by a groin injury, but still tied for the team lead with 67 tackles (38 solo) in 2006. He was again named to the All-GWFC first-team, as he had two sacks, five stops for losses and a forced fumble. He also broke up three passes.

                        The Great West Football Conference Defensive Player of the Year received All-American honors as a senior in 2007. He sat out the Southern Utah game with a hip strain, but still led the team with a career-high 90 tackles (45 solo), including 2.5 sacks and nine stops for minus-32 yards. He deflected six passes and gained 49 yards on two kickoff returns.

                        Mays started 31 of 43 games at North Dakota State, recording 285 total tackles and a school-record 159 solo hits. He had 11 sacks for minus-90 yards, 29.5 stops for losses of 131 yards and 12 quarterback pressures. He caused four fumbles, batted down 11 passes and intercepted three others for 29 yards in returns. He also gained 53 yards on three kickoff returns (17.7-yard average).



                        Analysis


                        Positives:
                        Lacks height, but has impressive upper-body muscle structure (sometimes gets too muscular), thick chest, broad shoulders, thick thighs and calves...Best flowing down the line and making plays on the move...Impact hitter on initial contact, showing good balance and adequate body control, sinking his weight properly to drive through the ballcarrier...Gets his teammates lined up, but is better reading keys on run plays than when working in the zone...Fires low off the snap and is combative with his hands in attempts to shed and split double teams...Has a low center of gravity to get under the pads of a lead blocker to clog the rush lane...Comes out of his stance and attacks the ballcarrier with good force and has the hand strength to dislodge the ball from the opponent...Brings his hips and drives hard with his legs to impede the forward progress of a ballcarrier...Good at stacking and controlling multiple blockers, which frees up his outside linebackers to make the play...Stays on his feet well, fighting throughout when working in traffic...Shows good leverage ability taking on offensive linemen...Solid wrapup tackler who will generally bring his man down once he gets a piece of the opponent...Reacts quickly and attacks runners when he sees the cutback lanes developing...Not the greatest, but can get decent pass depth in the short area...More of a bull rusher than a pass rusher, but has a good concept for taking angles that shorten his path to the quarterback...Has better vision on running plays, as he has that explosive initial step shooting the gaps...In pass coverage, he is capable of sticking to tight ends and slot backs -- not speed receivers -- as uses his hands to reroute.

                        Negatives: Lacks ideal height and, while that might help him slipping past blockers to shoot the gaps, he struggles to handle bigger receivers in jump-ball situations...Does not have the timed speed to get good depth in his pass drops and stay with the receivers throughout a route's progression...Needs to do a better job of timing his leaps when competing for the ball at its high point (will jump early or get knocked off-balance)...Has had some stamina issues, as he will run out of gas and disappear for long stretches...Better making his reads vs. the run, as he has just adequate vision and feel for passes into the zone...Height issues cause him to be late at times locating the inside runner working through trash...Not really sudden on downhill plays, lacking the burst to get to the outside running game...Has some hip stiffness in his pass drops and when changing direction working in space...Needs to show better explosion and urgency getting through the hole as a blitzer...Has an outstanding physique, but to maintain flexibility, he needs to keep his weight down and not try to build further muscle development (frame is maxed out and any more bulk will affect his quickness).

                        Compares To: LONDON FLETCHER-BAKER-Washington...Similar in size, their playing strength is the most impressive common trait between these 'backers. Mays looks like he could relieve Charles Atlas from holding the world on his shoulders, but that physique has also led to change-of-direction issues, as he sometimes gets overmuscular, looking stiff in his movements, especially when chasing down plays on the outside. Even if used only as a two-down performer, he could bring nice value late in the draft.
                        I'm so happy. I'm so happy Joe is here. WOO.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RaiderFanSD View Post
                          Eagles fan:


                          Maybe he's angry.
                          Meh, general consensus I'm getting is that he's much better fit in the 3-4 than the 4-3. Why would he be on special teams if he couldn't shed a block? LBers on special teams aren't gunners so they're usually getting blocked, right?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                            Alex Hall and 2 draft picks
                            Ahhh that's it. I knew it was Hall, but Max Hall kept coming into my head and I know that was the QB from BYU lol. Thanks. I suppose the Eagles cut him because the only Hall on their roster was a WR named Chad Hall.

                            Originally posted by RaiderFanSD View Post
                            Eagles fan:


                            Maybe he's angry.
                            That's pretty much true. Let's hope Mays sucks less lol.

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                            • #44
                              If mcd and the front office thought it was a good idea then I'm all for it!

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                              • #45
                                I think it's funny that people are mad that denver TRADED a guy that was around last year, but got cut because he failed a physical, then had surgery, came back and signed, and then devner traded him because there is a plethera of young talent.......

                                To get a LB with some promise.......


                                You just can't please some people.....

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