What to do with our 1st Round Pick

[Kansas Bob]

Great point Hoser. When you are a bad football team, you had better take the most dominant players available on the board - especially if it fills a need.

WRONG!!!!!!!!! When you have a bad team, one great player isn't going to make you a winner (example, Champ was the best CB around for years and Denvers defense still sucked for years) but you trade down and get two or three really good players instead of one great player. How much has Suh helped the lions? have they won 9 or 10 games this season?
Denver is lucky that two of the spots that they need help (DE and CB) are very deep. If they trade town to the teens or early twenties, they can still pick up a quality player and still have the extra picks. I love what Coach McDaniels did in the draft last year. A lot of people want Peterson (DB from LSU) But there is at least 5 or 6 other CB in that draft that arevery very good.
I wouldn't even mind if Coach traded down their second round pick five or ten spots and picked up an extra third or fourth pick.
Think, Denver is old in the secondary, old in the NT, Vickerson is the only DE that has any quality about him (although Thomas is looking better at times) and their OL needs backup support. Plus ILB is in need of help! Only place they are set is OLB IF EVERYONE STAYS HEALTHY!:thumb::thumb:

[SoundsOfSuccess]

What is up with all this CB stuff, this team doesn't need a CB THAT bad. I'd rather go DE, DT, or S.

[Warhawk]

Unless there's an absolute steal in terms of value at another position, DL is the way to go.

[InElwayWeTrust]

What is up with all this CB stuff, this team doesn't need a CB THAT bad. I'd rather go DE, DT, or S.

Right now we don't... If Champ leaves, then we do.

[Kyousukeneko]

Right now we don't... If Champ leaves, then we do.

even if chamop sodes leave, both syd and cox can be starting outside corners in the nfl. they are just young rookies

[BluenOrnge4Life]

WRONG!!!!!!!!! When you have a bad team, one great player isn't going to make you a winner (example, Champ was the best CB around for years and Denvers defense still sucked for years) but you trade down and get two or three really good players instead of one great player. How much has Suh helped the lions? have they won 9 or 10 games this season?
Denver is lucky that two of the spots that they need help (DE and CB) are very deep. If they trade town to the teens or early twenties, they can still pick up a quality player and still have the extra picks. I love what Coach McDaniels did in the draft last year. A lot of people want Peterson (DB from LSU) But there is at least 5 or 6 other CB in that draft that arevery very good.
I wouldn't even mind if Coach traded down their second round pick five or ten spots and picked up an extra third or fourth pick.
Think, Denver is old in the secondary, old in the NT, Vickerson is the only DE that has any quality about him (although Thomas is looking better at times) and their OL needs backup support. Plus ILB is in need of help! Only place they are set is OLB IF EVERYONE STAYS HEALTHY!:thumb::thumb:

WRONG!!!!!! Mark Schlereth and Alfred Williams were just talking about this the other day on the fan.

If you want a good football team you take dominant football players. The philosphy you are discussing is the one that led us to draft guys like Zane Beadles instead of guys like Pouncey and Iupati who are dominant players at the line of scrimmage.

[broncos SB2010]

WRONG!!!!!!!!! When you have a bad team, one great player isn't going to make you a winner (example, Champ was the best CB around for years and Denvers defense still sucked for years) but you trade down and get two or three really good players instead of one great player. How much has Suh helped the lions? have they won 9 or 10 games this season?
Denver is lucky that two of the spots that they need help (DE and CB) are very deep. If they trade town to the teens or early twenties, they can still pick up a quality player and still have the extra picks. I love what Coach McDaniels did in the draft last year. A lot of people want Peterson (DB from LSU) But there is at least 5 or 6 other CB in that draft that arevery very good.
I wouldn't even mind if Coach traded down their second round pick five or ten spots and picked up an extra third or fourth pick.
Think, Denver is old in the secondary, old in the NT, Vickerson is the only DE that has any quality about him (although Thomas is looking better at times) and their OL needs backup support. Plus ILB is in need of help! Only place they are set is OLB IF EVERYONE STAYS HEALTHY!:thumb::thumb:

They aren't as deep as you think. Yes there are a few good prospects in the first and second rounds but after that...not so much. Fairley, Watt and dareus are both the top DE prospects with Cameron Jordan coming in there somewhere as well but after them the quality goes down fast. patrick peterson is the top CB hands down and anyone after him is a lesser player. Brandon harris and Amukamara are the next tier with everyone else as lesser players.

So unless you are willing to take lesser quality players to get more of them instead of fewer top tier players than your logic is flawed imo. With where the broncos are picking, they have a shot at Fairley, Peterson, and Dareus who are arguably 3 of the top players in this draft. If one of them is available and they pass to trade down they blew it. just my opinion but you don't pass on top 5, or top 10, players at a position of need to accumulate picks. If those 3 guys are gone then I agree that a trade down could be justified.

[Kansas Bob]

WRONG!!!!!! Mark Schlereth and Alfred Williams were just talking about this the other day on the fan.

If you want a good football team you take dominant football players. The philosphy you are discussing is the one that led us to draft guys like Zane Beadles instead of guys like Pouncey and Iupati who are dominant players at the line of scrimmage.

Mark and Alfred are big dumb overweight JOCKs. If they new much about football (outside of the positions they played, they would be Head Coaches or cordinators! Ask Matt Mullen about that!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

They aren't as deep as you think. Yes there are a few good prospects in the first and second rounds but after that...not so much. Fairley, Watt and dareus are both the top DE prospects with Cameron Jordan coming in there somewhere as well but after them the quality goes down fast. patrick peterson is the top CB hands down and anyone after him is a lesser player. Brandon harris and Amukamara are the next tier with everyone else as lesser players.

So unless you are willing to take lesser quality players to get more of them instead of fewer top tier players than your logic is flawed imo. With where the broncos are picking, they have a shot at Fairley, Peterson, and Dareus who are arguably 3 of the top players in this draft. If one of them is available and they pass to trade down they blew it. just my opinion but you don't pass on top 5, or top 10, players at a position of need to accumulate picks. If those 3 guys are gone then I agree that a trade down could be justified.

We will be picking at spot #5, IMO. It's going to probably come down to Dallas, Denver, and AZ for spots 5-7. Dallas probably has the toughest schedule, followed by Denver, but Dallas is play good ball right now.

We should have a shot at an elite playmaker at spots 5-7. I suppose I would be comfortable with them trading down a few spots as long as they still landed JJ Watt. He looks to me to be equally as dominant as Fairley or Watt, with potentially more upside considering the massive frame he has.

[Kansas Bob]

They aren't as deep as you think. Yes there are a few good prospects in the first and second rounds but after that...not so much. Fairley, Watt and dareus are both the top DE prospects with Cameron Jordan coming in there somewhere as well but after them the quality goes down fast. patrick peterson is the top CB hands down and anyone after him is a lesser player. Brandon harris and Amukamara are the next tier with everyone else as lesser players.

So unless you are willing to take lesser quality players to get more of them instead of fewer top tier players than your logic is flawed imo. With where the broncos are picking, they have a shot at Fairley, Peterson, and Dareus who are arguably 3 of the top players in this draft. If one of them is available and they pass to trade down they blew it. just my opinion but you don't pass on top 5, or top 10, players at a position of need to accumulate picks. If those 3 guys are gone then I agree that a trade down could be justified.

Please remember that we are speaking of a man fighting for his job. If he takes the top player available for a position then opponents can run away from that player and still beat you easily. If you can get very good players it is harder for them to run away from the one player.
Now if you have good job stability and a pretty good team to start with, you draft the great player and plug him into that already good team and look like a genius.
If coach thinks that his defense is already pretty good had it not been for injuries then go get that top DE in the draft or top CB in the draft and go. If he doesn't then go get the 2nd or 3rd best DE and then have another 2nd rounder to grab a good ILB to help him out and use you other 2nd rounders to get the third or fourth best CB and then use the new 3rd rounder you just aquired to draft a good TE or backup for the OL.
I hope you understand what I am trying to explain.:thumb:

[nava]

I am going to assume we are pickin at 5 or 6.

I would love for us to take a player like Marcel Dareus or Nick Fairley at that posistion if they are still on the board. I think a player like that would give us an instant playmaker on the d-line which is what were so badly lacking at the minute.

If those 2 are not there I would trade down to around 12-15 spot and hopefully someone who wants a QB badly will be willing and give us another 2nd round and a lower round pick and take one of Cameron Jordan, Adrian Clayborn, Allen Bailey or Cameron Heyward. I would then Look to add a CB in the 2nd especially if Champ does not return. Hopefully Dowling or someone of that quality will be there when we pick early in the 2nd and then I would definitly look to add a saftey and either someone else to help the D-line or possibly a TE.

Either way it has to be a defence orientated draft and specifically D-line but if McDaniels is here next year I really would not be suprised to see us totally ignore the D.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

What is up with all this CB stuff, this team doesn't need a CB THAT bad. I'd rather go DE, DT, or S.

I agree! It doesnt matter if Champ signs or not we have Cox,Vaughn,and Thompson.A lot of CBs were selected last draft,we should be ok.A good DL makes a better secondary,and we have to address our DL in the offseason if we want our secondary to play a factor in games.