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I am not impressed with how Broncos defensive line is applying pressure. Vickerson is terrible, Mcbean makes too many mental errors that lead to untimely penalties, Bannan has only 1 or 2 sacks, and Jamal Williams can't shed a block to save his life. If they won't get it done put someone in there that might light a spark. Chris Baker could be the answer, but we will never know unless they give him a shot. Let's face it...it doesn't look good for the Broncos making the play-offs, and I'm ready to see some of the youth perform. Let us see Baker, and Tebow play a more significant role. If anything it will give them some much needed experience, and it will also help in the evaluation process, looking forward to 2011.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but Chris Baker is no longer a Denver Bronco or has been for a while. He is a Miami Dolphin.
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That, and the statement "Vickerson is terrible" really had me laughing. Vickerson is by far the most promising talent on the DL for us at the moment, and it's all without spending the offseason with us. He's got a bright future, of that I'm convinced.Originally posted by BroncosTX77 View PostsigpicComment
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My bad hahahah I guess that would explain it.Comment
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I haven't seen Vickerson even close to QB all season long dudeOriginally posted by Snarfalicious View PostComment
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He's a run-stopper. He's been blowing up runs all year, and should be a starter on the d-line for years to come.Originally posted by Gossage970 View Postsigpic
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The Broncos need to sack the QB. All other teams have to do is run to the other side.Comment
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they only run to the other side, then we've shut down half the field, haven't we? If we get Fairley in the draft and put him opposite Vickerson then we'll have a guy who can shut down the run and rush the passer. In the 3-4 all of your linemen don't have to be pass-rushers.Originally posted by Gossage970 View Postsigpic
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Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncod DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.Comment
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What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?Originally posted by Gossage970 View PostLast edited by Gossage970; 12-02-2010, 10:25 AM.Comment
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Dude, you're so naive to even think that. Considering Vickerson never played in a 3-4 before he came here, he's done a solid job. This thread FAILSOriginally posted by Gossage970 View PostRESTORE THE ORANGE CRUSH!!!!
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LONG LIVE THE ORANGE AND BLUE!!!
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It actually just gets better and better. He compared sacks of Freeney to Vickerson.Originally posted by Mantheyman View PostsigpicComment
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I thought Vickerson had a sack last game.Originally posted by Gossage970 View Post
I thought in a 3-4 the linemen stop the rusher and tie up OL on passing downs so that one of the blitzing linebacker can make the sack> That is why Doom had 17.5 sacks last season.Comment
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4-3 DE are the ones who rack up the big sack totals. In a 3-4 it is usually the OLB who get the sacks (Doom and James Harrison being two good examples). Very few 3-4 DE manage to get any relevant sack numbers, the only one I can remember that was a force was Richard Seymour.Originally posted by Gossage970 View Post
Dwight Freeney is a 4-3 DE in the Tampa 2 system.Comment
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Man, I just don't know why we don't give Vince Wilfork more playing time. I mean he's gotta be better than our other options. And why the Hell is Ngata wasting away on the bench?
I'm just bustin your chops Brutha
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