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  • #16
    Do you know what the difference is between a 4-3 and the 3-4? Do you know the responsibilities of the DE in their respective defenses? Vickerson has been doing a great job this season.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Gossage970
      Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncod DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.
      You should probably focus on another sport if you want to compare a 315 lb 3-4 DE's sack total to Dwight Freeney's.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by CinnaMunMun
        4-3 DE are the ones who rack up the big sack totals. In a 3-4 it is usually the OLB who get the sacks (Doom and James Harrison being two good examples). Very few 3-4 DE manage to get any relevant sack numbers, the only one I can remember that was a force was Richard Seymour.

        Dwight Freeney is a 4-3 DE in the Tampa 2 system.
        bruce smith played 3-4 DE for a while.

        but either way learn football before you post guy who made this thread. vickerson has shown promise and should compete with thomas along with a first rounder, what we really need is a NT, thats not to old to play. i'd alos love fairly or darius to help shore up another DE spot.
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        • #19
          Vickerson has been solid and shows promise as does thomas. These two guys are the only two I want on this team next season. I think we need youth and pass rushing to be added in the offseason in free agency and the draft.

          Guys like:

          Paul Soliai (NT) 26 years old
          Barry Cofield (DE/NT) 26 years old
          Stephen Bowen (DE) 26 years old
          Nick Fairley
          Cameron Jordan
          Marcell Darius
          JJ Watt
          Jerrell Powe
          Phil Taylor
          Sione Fua

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          • #20
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan
            Nick Fairley
            Cameron Jordan

            *crossed fingers* for either of them

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            • #21
              I still want BOTH Fairley and Watt
              Jacksonville Jaguars Broncomania GM:

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