Give Chris Baker a Shot

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

I still want BOTH Fairley and Watt

[MoXplant]

Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan

*crossed fingers* for either of them

[johnlimburg]

Vickerson has been solid and shows promise as does thomas. These two guys are the only two I want on this team next season. I think we need youth and pass rushing to be added in the offseason in free agency and the draft.

Guys like:

Paul Soliai (NT) 26 years old
Barry Cofield (DE/NT) 26 years old
Stephen Bowen (DE) 26 years old
Nick Fairley
Cameron Jordan
Marcell Darius
JJ Watt
Jerrell Powe
Phil Taylor
Sione Fua

[Kyousukeneko]

4-3 DE are the ones who rack up the big sack totals. In a 3-4 it is usually the OLB who get the sacks (Doom and James Harrison being two good examples). Very few 3-4 DE manage to get any relevant sack numbers, the only one I can remember that was a force was Richard Seymour.

Dwight Freeney is a 4-3 DE in the Tampa 2 system.

bruce smith played 3-4 DE for a while.

but either way learn football before you post guy who made this thread. vickerson has shown promise and should compete with thomas along with a first rounder, what we really need is a NT, thats not to old to play. i'd alos love fairly or darius to help shore up another DE spot.

[JaysusCutler]

Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncod DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.

You should probably focus on another sport if you want to compare a 315 lb 3-4 DE's sack total to Dwight Freeney's.

[Hoserman117]

Do you know what the difference is between a 4-3 and the 3-4? Do you know the responsibilities of the DE in their respective defenses? Vickerson has been doing a great job this season.

[chazoe60]

Man, I just don't know why we don't give Vince Wilfork more playing time. I mean he's gotta be better than our other options. And why the Hell is Ngata wasting away on the bench?


















I'm just bustin your chops Brutha

[CinnaMunMun]

What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?

4-3 DE are the ones who rack up the big sack totals. In a 3-4 it is usually the OLB who get the sacks (Doom and James Harrison being two good examples). Very few 3-4 DE manage to get any relevant sack numbers, the only one I can remember that was a force was Richard Seymour.

Dwight Freeney is a 4-3 DE in the Tampa 2 system.

[Kansas Bob]

I haven't seen Vickerson even close to QB all season long dude

I thought Vickerson had a sack last game.
I thought in a 3-4 the linemen stop the rusher and tie up OL on passing downs so that one of the blitzing linebacker can make the sack> That is why Doom had 17.5 sacks last season.

[Snarfalicious]

Dude, you're so naive to even think that. Considering Vickerson never played in a 3-4 before he came here, he's done a solid job. This thread FAILS

It actually just gets better and better. He compared sacks of Freeney to Vickerson.

[Mantheyman]

What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?

Dude, you're so naive to even think that. Considering Vickerson never played in a 3-4 before he came here, he's done a solid job. This thread FAILS

[Gossage970]

Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncos DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.

What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?

[Gossage970]

Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncod DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.

[JaysusCutler]

The Broncos need to sack the QB. All other teams have to do is run to the other side.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they only run to the other side, then we've shut down half the field, haven't we? If we get Fairley in the draft and put him opposite Vickerson then we'll have a guy who can shut down the run and rush the passer. In the 3-4 all of your linemen don't have to be pass-rushers.

[Gossage970]

The Broncos need to sack the QB. All other teams have to do is run to the other side.