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    I am not impressed with how Broncos defensive line is applying pressure. Vickerson is terrible, Mcbean makes too many mental errors that lead to untimely penalties, Bannan has only 1 or 2 sacks, and Jamal Williams can't shed a block to save his life. If they won't get it done put someone in there that might light a spark. Chris Baker could be the answer, but we will never know unless they give him a shot. Let's face it...it doesn't look good for the Broncos making the play-offs, and I'm ready to see some of the youth perform. Let us see Baker, and Tebow play a more significant role. If anything it will give them some much needed experience, and it will also help in the evaluation process, looking forward to 2011.

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    Hate to burst your bubble, but Chris Baker is no longer a Denver Bronco or has been for a while. He is a Miami Dolphin.

    Latest on TE Chris Baker including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BroncosTX77
      Hate to burst your bubble, but Chris Baker is no longer a Denver Bronco or has been for a while. He is a Miami Dolphin.

      http://www.nfl.com/players/chrisbake...e?id=BAK000000
      That, and the statement "Vickerson is terrible" really had me laughing. Vickerson is by far the most promising talent on the DL for us at the moment, and it's all without spending the offseason with us. He's got a bright future, of that I'm convinced.
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      • #4
        My bad hahahah I guess that would explain it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Snarfalicious
          That, and the statement "Vickerson is terrible" really had me laughing. Vickerson is by far the most promising talent on the DL for us at the moment, and it's all without spending the offseason with us. He's got a bright future, of that I'm convinced.
          I haven't seen Vickerson even close to QB all season long dude

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gossage970
            I haven't seen Vickerson even close to QB all season long dude
            He's a run-stopper. He's been blowing up runs all year, and should be a starter on the d-line for years to come.
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            • #7
              The Broncos need to sack the QB. All other teams have to do is run to the other side.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gossage970
                The Broncos need to sack the QB. All other teams have to do is run to the other side.
                That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they only run to the other side, then we've shut down half the field, haven't we? If we get Fairley in the draft and put him opposite Vickerson then we'll have a guy who can shut down the run and rush the passer. In the 3-4 all of your linemen don't have to be pass-rushers.
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                • #9
                  Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncod DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gossage970
                    Oh my goodness... Vickerson doesn't even lead Broncos DE's in tackles, Thomas does. All I'm saying is that if Vickerson was as good as you say he is why haven't I heard anyone else talk about him? It's obvious I haven't paid close attention to the Defensive line because I didn't know they traded Baker away, but I do know that just being a "run stopper" doesn't make him pro-bowl material, or even staring material for that matter. He is mediocre on a terrible line, at best. Besides in a 3-4 defense a lineman is supposed to take on blockers allowing linebackers to make tackles. Their job is penetrate and put pressure on the QB, especially in 3rd down, and passing situations. Vickerson has only 1 sack my friend. How many does Freeney have? This is a passing league, thanks.
                    What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?
                    Last edited by Gossage970; 12-02-2010, 10:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gossage970
                      What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?
                      Dude, you're so naive to even think that. Considering Vickerson never played in a 3-4 before he came here, he's done a solid job. This thread FAILS
                      RESTORE THE ORANGE CRUSH!!!!
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                      LONG LIVE THE ORANGE AND BLUE!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mantheyman
                        Dude, you're so naive to even think that. Considering Vickerson never played in a 3-4 before he came here, he's done a solid job. This thread FAILS
                        It actually just gets better and better. He compared sacks of Freeney to Vickerson.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gossage970
                          I haven't seen Vickerson even close to QB all season long dude
                          I thought Vickerson had a sack last game.
                          I thought in a 3-4 the linemen stop the rusher and tie up OL on passing downs so that one of the blitzing linebacker can make the sack> That is why Doom had 17.5 sacks last season.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gossage970
                            What is a "run-stopping DE" ... Shouldn't it be a pass rushing DE?
                            4-3 DE are the ones who rack up the big sack totals. In a 3-4 it is usually the OLB who get the sacks (Doom and James Harrison being two good examples). Very few 3-4 DE manage to get any relevant sack numbers, the only one I can remember that was a force was Richard Seymour.

                            Dwight Freeney is a 4-3 DE in the Tampa 2 system.

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                            • #15
                              Man, I just don't know why we don't give Vince Wilfork more playing time. I mean he's gotta be better than our other options. And why the Hell is Ngata wasting away on the bench?


















                              I'm just bustin your chops Brutha

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