Deffense Back to a 4-3

[evski19]

This deffense needs to go back to a 4-3 ayers is a DE and Doom is a DE too. we could have DJ and Hagan At outside lbs and mays at inside lb. we could get a 2 2nds for champ and orton maybe even a first for champ and trade for haynsworth. I know lugadge but he is an animal and he likes the 3 technique and i think he will play like the animal he is. put thomas in or williams and your set at dline.you need corner which is what you draft with the 2nd overal. Patrick Peterson from lsu. Now your average deffense at worst see my point. Any oppinions guys. Thanks

[jc13]

This deffense needs to go back to a 4-3 ayers is a DE and Doom is a DE too. we could have DJ and Hagan At outside lbs and mays at inside lb. we could get a 2 2nds for champ and orton maybe even a first for champ and trade for haynsworth. I know lugadge but he is an animal and he likes the 3 technique and i think he will play like the animal he is. put thomas in or williams and your set at dline.you need corner which is what you draft with the 2nd overal. Patrick Peterson from lsu. Now your average deffense at worst see my point. Any oppinions guys. Thanks

Check out Dooms 4-3 stats

then compare him to his 3-4.

I do agree with possibly drafting PP.

[KWHIT97]

If we go back to the 3-4, we may as well trade Doom and Ayers, they are not 4-3 DE's! the 4-3 is a horrific idea!

[Lukic]

How is Ayers not a 4-3 DE? Where do you get this rubbish? He was drafted out of college with a skillset most resemblant of a LDE.

Doom isn't a 4-3 nor a 3-4 player, he's a push rusher plain and simple. He had 25.5 sacks in his first 3 years, playing in the 4-3.

Regardless, if we can land a premium nose tackle in FA or a nose shoots up draft boards insanely high and we nab him, then we stay int he 3-4. If we can't land a good nose, we'll be resigned to changing. The 4-3 is losing it's popularity so there'll be more 4-3 players on the market and available in the draft.

[evski19]

This team is built for 4-3

[gpholmes]

Why do people keep saying Dumervil can't play 4-3 de? The guy played de for the first three years and was pretty good at it if I remember correctly (12 sacks one year). And besides, the guy played with his hands down in 3-4 anyways. You mean to tell me he's such a force in pass protection that we can't move him? Give me a break. And if the issue is Doom against the run, Mathis and Freeney aren't very good against the run, same with Jared Allen as well. But I guess those guys should stick to 3-4 lb right?

[Kansas Bob]

If they go back to a 4-3 they

better pick a good MLB out of the draft early because this draft isn't deep on them.
Denver has the personel to play 4-3 and I would like to see them play 4-3 and 3-4 both depending on the situation. DJ is a much better OLB in a 4-3 than ILB in a 3-4. Our defense needs to be less predictable and need Depth badly!!!:thumb:
The new coaches will have to decide all that!

[marktippins1981]

Everyone goes hybrid these days anyway, don't they, depending on who they are playing and what down/yardage it is.....

Doom can play either, and so can Ayers.

[Hoserman117]

Doom and Ayers are better OLB's, than DE's.

[BRONCOS_OWN_U16]

Its going to depend on who we get as our coach. I dont mind either scheme as long as the d plays good.

[Broncosinindy]

How is Ayers not a 4-3 DE? Where do you get this rubbish? He was drafted out of college with a skillset most resemblant of a LDE.

Doom isn't a 4-3 nor a 3-4 player, he's a push rusher plain and simple. He had 25.5 sacks in his first 3 years, playing in the 4-3.

Regardless, if we can land a premium nose tackle in FA or a nose shoots up draft boards insanely high and we nab him, then we stay int he 3-4. If we can't land a good nose, we'll be resigned to changing. The 4-3 is losing it's popularity so there'll be more 4-3 players on the market and available in the draft.

Hes about 20 lbs light in the trunk for a ideal LDE

[BaileyFan4ever]

I dont know why anyone doesnt concedure having Dumervil as SLB, Williams at WLB (like he used to play) and a combonation of Mays and Haggan playing MLB. We could play a 4-3 under defense for the majority of the time and still have 5 guys going after the QB with dummervil lined up on the line blitzing the majority of the time. Dummervil is fine takling players in space due to his speed. Its the taking on blockers that makes DOOM so bad against the run. This is what makes the most sense to me if we do switch to a 4-3 (something i'm not completely sold on yet).

RLB - (playing on the line) Dummervil
RDE - Marcus Thomas/possibly draft pick
RDT - Justin Bannan/possibly draft pick
LDT - Kevin Vickerson/possibly free agent
LDE - Ayers
MLB - Mays/Haggan
WLB - Williams

Just an idea guys

[Lukic]

Hes about 20 lbs light in the trunk for a ideal LDE

275 lbs is big enough for a DE in the 4-3.

[BaileyFan4ever]

275 lbs is big enough for a DE in the 4-3.

depends on the system you guys. there are many different 4-3 defenses we could play. we could play one similar to the colts where the de's are smaller 260-250 or we could play one that is similar to the rams where the de's are larger 290-280. but in general 280-270 is what you range for in 4-3 de's. you got to remember weight isnt everything. there are some guys who can bench and squat more then dt's at de but only weigh 260. though the combine and their personal workouts are important, they aren't everything. its the explosivness, motor, and football skills that really matter. its great to have talent, but if you dont have work ethic it means nothing, especially in the nfl where everyone's good or better (great). :thumb:

[Ohenhen12345]

This deffense needs to go back to a 4-3 ayers is a DE and Doom is a DE too. we could have DJ and Hagan At outside lbs and mays at inside lb. we could get a 2 2nds for champ and orton maybe even a first for champ and trade for haynsworth. I know lugadge but he is an animal and he likes the 3 technique and i think he will play like the animal he is. put thomas in or williams and your set at dline.you need corner which is what you draft with the 2nd overal. Patrick Peterson from lsu. Now your average deffense at worst see my point. Any oppinions guys. Thanks

Mays can't play in a 4 3 defense. I would cut him, and go and draft a stud MLB.

Sturdvant
Greg Jones
Mathews

are options through the draft



My dream 43 draft would be

trade down acquire a 2nd and 4th


draft

1 Von Miller DE Texas A&M
2. Greg Sturdivant MLB
2. Jurrel Casey DT USC
2. Best FS available
3.Lawrence Wilson OLB Uconn


Cut Williams, Thomas, Fields Mcbean, Mays




Sign Haynewsorth, Chad Greenway


Depth Chart

DE- Dumerville, Von Miller, Robert Ayers

DT- Haynewsorth, Casey, Bannan, Vickerson

OLB- Lawrence Wilson, DJ Williams, Chad Greenway

MLB- Studviant, Haggins