Can someone please tell me why every one wants Peterson?

[ItalianBronco]

I always thought your DL makes your CB's and S's better...No?

Look at the Ravens...Who are there great CB's?
Steelers? Giants? The LIONS??????

The Lions of all teams BLUE-PRINTED it this year..."How to become a relivent Football team"...

Draft SUH...Check, Get VDB from the Titans, grab Williams from the Browns, Vola!!!! Great front 4, thier secondary is the most BRUTAL in the NFL, but when you get pressure from just rushing 4 you can do many other things to cover that up.

We on the other hand DO NOT have a BRUTAL secondary...We have a BRUTAL FRONT!!!!!! Doom is coming back, Ayers on the other side Draft Fairley and you have JB...VOLA!!!!!

[the0rangecrush]

I agree that front 7 is way more important, however the argument is Peterson is extremly and I mean extremely talented. He has size, speed, and strength. He has a knack for always being near the ball, like Ed reed is at safety. He also has the corner skills to be as good if not better than champ. He is also very versatile, because he was a phenomenal kick returner in college. There is also the fact that the draft is full of DE and many good ones can be had in the second and third rounds. There are many CB's to, but the talent discrepancy between Peterson and everyone else, some believe to be greater than Fairley and all other DE's.

[Uptown]

Drafting Peterson is as smart as the Panthers having Williams and Stewart at HB. Sometimes Drafting BPA is not so great when the needs are really deep.

Besides top CB's are overated like WR's.

[ItalianBronco]

I agree that front 7 is way more important, however the argument is Peterson is extremly and I mean extremely talented. He has size, speed, and strength. He has a knack for always being near the ball, like Ed reed is at safety. He also has the corner skills to be as good if not better than champ. He is also very versatile, because he was a phenomenal kick returner in college. There is also the fact that the draft is full of DE and many good ones can be had in the second and third rounds. There are many CB's to, but the talent discrepancy between Peterson and everyone else, some believe to be greater than Fairley and all other DE's.

:paper: BETTER THAN CHAMP?????

Listen, I'm not a Draft GURU, but I have seen all but 1 of Peterson's games, and have saw all but 2 of Fairley's...

Fairley COULD NOT BE BLOCKED against teams such as BAMA,LSU, RazorBacks, SC...I saw on a # of plays against BAMA they TRIPLE teamed him.
He is a force sorta like SUH, not SUH but close...

Peterson was great...Not jaw dropping, he is a very good corner... But against guys like Green and Jones he was uhhhhhh, ok. NOT CHAMP!!!!!!

[fraguela09]

What if Peterson is Champ, Troy P or Ed Reed? I would take that over an above-average but not great DL.

[ItalianBronco]

What if Peterson is Champ, Troy P or Ed Reed? I would take that over an above-average but not great DL.

"KEYWORD" NOT GREAT DL!

What if Fairley is as good as SUH? What then?


I rest my case...

[ItalianBronco]

The guy plays CB how do we know if he could play S? And you want to take a S that high? Theres a TON going second round or later...

[fraguela09]

"KEYWORD" NOT GREAT DL!

What if Fairley is as good as SUH? What then?


I rest my case...

Well, if I'm getting a White-Sapp-Suh type DL stud.... Of course. Go DL.

Even if they are a grad below.... Why not.

BUT, I reserve the right to endorse a PP pick, if our scouts feel this isn't the case, and they feel PP is great.

In other words, just because we need a DL, have a high pick, doesn't mean that turns Fairley into R-White. We have to be honest when we grade the man. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. What is he? Don't base pick on hope, but on fact.

Sure, we need a DL or 2 or 3, but we need everything... So just go BPA. If equal or near equal, then opt for DL... But dont be blinded by our most glaring need.

Shanny wanted a WR. He took Ashely L. Passed on Ed Reed.

We must be smart. Take the best defensive player on the board. Again, if things within the same realm, then go DL. BUt if we feel DL options are good, not great.... and have choice to take another def. player who we feel will be and is great, then just do it.

ANYWAY.... DL MUST BE ADDRESSED regardless. If PP our first pick, then they better get TWO DL guys in the first two rounds. Swing deals or spend 2 2nd rounders on DL; or sign a stud in free agency... or two.

[fraguela09]

The guy plays CB how do we know if he could play S? And you want to take a S that high? Theres a TON going second round or later...

"THEY" say he can be anything you want him to be. FS/SS/CB. He does it all. BIG, strong and fast.

If Malcom Jenkins plays FS, Peterson can.

AND, if we keep Champ.... We have options to be flexible with everyone.

AGAIN, I am not declaring him our pick. I want BPA. I want DL, of course, but I'll take a sure bet sort of thing.... If he's a lock to be an all pro for years to come... Fine. Just better not pass on an impact DL if that's the case.

[Captain_23]

Because fact is, Peterson is the best defensive player in this draft. period. second to no one including Fairley. being a Gamecock fan, I am also an SEC fan. I for one will contest that this has been a rebuilding year for the SEC as a lot of talent left for the draft the past couple years, and a lot of teams are very young up front on the O lines in the SEC. Bama lost 3 starters off their line from last year, S. Car lost 3 starters from last year. a lot of SEC teams have a lot of freshman and sophomores starting upfront on the Olines. im not taking anything away from Fairley, but i honestly dont think he went against dominate guards, because most guards he went up against were RS freshman and true sophomores... SEC Olines will be a lot more experienced next season. But this year, just about every team in the SEC has a freshman or sophomore starting upfront on the oline...
besides we run a 3-4 base defense. I am not too fond on taking a 3-4 end with the number 2 pick. all he will be as a 3-4 end is a space eater and basically a defensive blocker for the linebackers. he is best suited as a DT in a 4-3 where his skills can be used to the max. I dont want Fairley as a 3-4 end im sorry. Peterson is the better choice for where we are picking if we were to stay put. and Corner now has become a huge need, everyone knows Champ is good as gone.

oh and by the way. the Ravens have Ed Reed, and Troy Polomalu in their secondaries.. so yes they do have an Elite playmaker in their secondaries.. You are crazy if you dont think you dont need elite players in the secondary rather its corner or safety. u still need elite players back there. regardless of how good you are upfront... that whole deal about only having a good front 7 is a bunch of crap to me. what good does it do you to have a good front 7, but then your back 4 is giving up big plays because the talent back there is lacking.. um Detroit, um Dallas, Um Washington, Indianopolis, should i go on?? You still need an elite player in the secondary regardless of talent in the front seven. not to mention Dumervil will be back, which in turn i honestly believe will make Ayers a better OLB.

[Uptown]

Cant believe people want to draft a CB. The panthers have two great CB's and they stink. They know they need linemen because thats where it all starts.

We can have goodman x2 and add a Fairley, Bowers DL and would be a much better D than with Peterson and more has been DT's or lame college 3-4 slugs eating up blockers.

[Captain_23]

Cant believe people want to draft a CB. The panthers have two great CB's and they stink. They know they need linemen because thats where it all starts.

We can have goodman x2 and add a Fairley, Bowers DL and would be a much better D than with Peterson and more has been DT's or lame college 3-4 slugs eating up blockers.

its not the fact that most of us want Peterson ( or a CB in general) its more the fact we pick #2, we have needs everywhere on defense. I personally dont think no 3-4 END or NT ( space eaters ) are worth a #2 pick especially with the depth on the D line in this years draft.

In this scenario, its not about picking a CB, or a D lineman, or a Linebacker, or a safety. Its about drafting the best avail player, that fits a need. If the best player avail. was a safety, or a linebacker. i would say we have to draft a safety or a lineback. But hey, guess what? the best available player, especially of need, happens to be a CB this year, Just sayin'

[BroncosTX77]

I always thought your DL makes your CB's and S's better...No?

Look at the Ravens...Who are there great CB's?
Steelers? Giants? The LIONS??????

The Lions of all teams BLUE-PRINTED it this year..."How to become a relivent Football team"...

Draft SUH...Check, Get VDB from the Titans, grab Williams from the Browns, Vola!!!! Great front 4, thier secondary is the most BRUTAL in the NFL, but when you get pressure from just rushing 4 you can do many other things to cover that up.

We on the other hand DO NOT have a BRUTAL secondary...We have a BRUTAL FRONT!!!!!! Doom is coming back, Ayers on the other side Draft Fairley and you have JB...VOLA!!!!!

This poster deserves a ton of CP's!

No sarcasm. it is a delight to read common sense posts once in a while. Let's put it this way. As of right now, Cox is not in jail, and Bailey is a Bronco, and FA has not commenced. Knowing that, it is safe to say the DLine is in much worst shape than the secondary.

[Uptown]

its not the fact that most of us want Peterson ( or a CB in general) its more the fact we pick #2, we have needs everywhere on defense. I personally dont think no 3-4 END or NT ( space eaters ) are worth a #2 pick especially with the depth on the D line in this years draft.

In this scenario, its not about picking a CB, or a D lineman, or a Linebacker, or a safety. Its about drafting the best avail player, that fits a need. If the best player avail. was a safety, or a linebacker. i would say we have to draft a safety or a lineback. But hey, guess what? the best available player, especially of need, happens to be a CB this year, Just sayin'

I agree that we shouldn't draft a DL that high with the #2 pick to be a 34 linemen. They are suppose to be found on the cheap.

That being said I am talking about getting rid of the crappy 34 scheme and going 43 so we can get a bowers or fairley and create havoc upfront. We need a pass rush ASAP as it is the fastest way to improve a defense and drafting a CB and then 34 guys down later is a waste of a draft.

Why keep a 34 scheme that we never had to begin with?

Easier to go with a 43 as there are more better players available for such a scheme.

We are after all rebuilding a defense from scratch and its too arduous to start a 34 from scratch.

[BroncosTX77]

I agree that we shouldn't draft a DL that high with the #2 pick to be a 34 linemen. They are suppose to be found on the cheap.

That being said I am talking about getting rid of the crappy 34 scheme and going 43 so we can get a bowers or fairley and create havoc upfront. We need a pass rush ASAP as it is the fastest way to improve a defense and drafting a CB and then 34 guys down later is a waste of a draft.

Why keep a 34 scheme that we never had to begin with?

Easier to go with a 43 as there are more better players available for such a scheme.

We are after all rebuilding a defense from scratch and its too arduous to start a 34 from scratch.

Let me remind you, DE Tyson Jackson oh and DE/DT Glenn Dorsey. KC Squaws, 2010 AFC West Champions. Both Top 5 picks in the draft. Their defense isn't elite but they sure are as hell better than Denver and a Top 15 defense, good enough to get them in the playoffs.