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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    ellis is the most overrated prospect by fans in thios draft, i would move fua to DE
    agreed....
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
      and so is dorsey, hadn't hurt him much this year right?
      He is the exception not the rule. Do you want a big huge DL who can clog lanes or a shorter DL who is trying to clog lanes.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
        and so is dorsey, hadn't hurt him much this year right?
        You know, Alan Branch is a big fat guy. I'm sure he's doing great at NT. Or just at the line in general.

        See? I can do it too. Regardless, Fua is more physically fit than Powe or Taylor. Theoretically, that means he is more aware of his health and is a workout warrior. Two skills that don't always mean NFL-ready, but they help.

        Not to mention that his stats are right up there with Powe and also plays NT already.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
          Powe is fatter than Taylor and not not nearly as tough. I really have no idea why people think Powe is a better prospect. None of the NT are super great prospects but taylor is far and away the best of a weak group, imo. Weight could turn into a factor for both of them however.

          Taylor isn't all that fat for being 340 or so..He is #98. Tracy Robertson, #13, is 6-4, 280



          This is Powe

          Good job, you do realize Powe is shorter right? Powe is a better nose tackle, look at last year when he actually played the position, because this year he has been playing the undertackle position where he will never play. Taylor was the best player on a crappy Baylor team, woo hop let's draft him and start him!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ahrum View Post
            players from D-2 schools have found success in the NFL. Not only that, but He'd be a later round prospect than both Powe and Taylor.

            Fua is (by standard) a few inches too short for 3-4 DE. He'd be a decent fit at 4-3 DT, but he also has a massive frame that i'm not sure he's tapped. He could probably put on a few pounds.
            Also, his stock at the current moment is mid 3rd, but will probably rise at combine, considering he's built like a tank and the other 3 prospects are all blobs.
            Fua has potential, that's for sure. He is my second choice behind taylor. Only 2 things about this...

            1. I hate to hope on the future such as...he can put more weight on his frame...a la Jarvis moss.

            2. Does Taylor really look like a blob to you???
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            • #21
              Originally posted by THEdraftnik View Post
              Good job, you do realize Powe is shorter right? Powe is a better nose tackle, look at last year when he actually played the position, because this year he has been playing the undertackle position where he will never play. Taylor was the best player on a crappy Baylor team, woo hop let's draft him and start him!
              Powe is only 2 inches shorter, according to the listed stats, not that big of a deal imo. Taylor's year this season was far better than Powe's was last year not to mention this season. I never said start either of them. I don't think any of the NT in this seasons draft should start next year, all of them need time to develop first.

              IMO, Taylor is bigger, stronger from I've read, a better tackler, and would require double teams more often than Powe. Taylor has also been fairly consistent with this year being a breakout season whereas Powe only had one real decent year which was last year and even that wasn't that great. What about Powe makes you think he is better than Taylor other than the hype coming into the season?
              Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-05-2011, 05:09 PM.
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              • #22
                The fact that I give no **** for stats, they don't translate, there fun to look at but that's it. A WR last year caught 160 balls in one season and went undrafted. If you watch the players, you will see the true story. If Taylor was 300 or 310 pounds nobody would no his name.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by THEdraftnik View Post
                  The fact that I give no **** for stats, they don't translate, there fun to look at but that's it. A WR last year caught 160 balls in one season and went undrafted. If you watch the players, you will see the true story. If Taylor was 300 or 310 pounds nobody would no his name.
                  Same could be said for Powe. As I have stated numerous times, I don't think any of the NT prospects are anything to get too excited about. And tell me...what is the true story?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                    Same could be said for Powe. As I have stated numerous times, I don't think any of the NT prospects are anything to get too excited about. And tell me...what is the true story?
                    That Powe eats up space effectively, and is good at it. He will never get the stats, but if you watch the games his presence is known. Taylor on the other hand....
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                    • #25
                      i will still like taylor, he has produced and he has looked like a different player from last year, easily the most boom product at NT. he has been more consistant and jerrell powe should be able to look fine even at UT, if he is a ligit NT, who needs to be to handle two+ blockers
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
                        i will still like taylor, he has produced and he has looked like a different player from last year, easily the most boom product at NT. he has been more consistant and jerrell powe should be able to look fine even at UT, if he is a ligit NT, who needs to be to handle two+ blockers
                        Under tackle- requires you to penetrate make plays in the back field get to the QB, Albert Haynesworth
                        Nose tackle- requires you to take up multiple blockers and clog holes, Vince Wilfork
                        The players at the end are the ideal players at that position. Coincidence that Nick Fairley has been compared to big Al, and Powe to Vince?
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by THEdraftnik View Post
                          Under tackle- requires you to penetrate make plays in the back field get to the QB, Albert Haynesworth
                          Nose tackle- requires you to take up multiple blockers and clog holes, Vince Wilfork
                          The players at the end are the ideal players at that position. Coincidence that Nick Fairley has been compared to big Al, and Powe to Vince?
                          never once have I seen Powe compared to Wilfork nor will I be any reputable source.

                          here is a blurb about Wilfork's college career...tell me Powe is close to this.

                          Wilfork attended the University of Miami where he participated in both football and track and field; he holds the Miami indoor school record in the shot put. In his freshman season, Wilfork did not start but played in every game as a defensive tackle, finishing tenth in the team on tackles with 41 while also recording a sack and forcing three fumbles. Wilfork did not start a game in his 2002 sophomore season either, but still recorded 43 tackles and seven sacks. Before the 2003 season, Wilfork was rated the second best defensive tackle in the country by The Sporting News and went on to start all 13 games for Miami. He finished the year with a career high 64 tackles and led the team with 20 quarterback hurries. He was named to the All-Big East Conference first-team following the season, which would prove to be his last in Miami as he decided to forgo his senior season and enter the 2004 NFL Draft.
                          Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-05-2011, 07:16 PM.
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                          • #28
                            never once have I seen Powe compared to Wilfork nor will I be any reputable source.
                            I don't think he was saying that they were similar in ability. I think he meant that they are similar in size and skill-set.

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                            • #29
                              Good for you, Walterfootball said it last year, I cant remember the others though. I think nepatriots draft too.
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                              • #30
                                I really would love to see a explosive NT taken in the second round but I dont think that is our most serious problem I think that we need a explosive DE who can dominate on his side of the line. if jamal williams had some help the d-line would be better, bannan didnt play to bad I did notice he did get better later in the season but if we could lock done a serious DE tat would really improve our defensive front seven. I have heard alought about fairley but I dont know his stats
                                A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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