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  • #46
    I'm not sure J.D Walton/Zane Beadles would fit a zone blocking scheme...

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    • #47
      Beadles played in a ZBS in college.
      I'm pretty sure Walton can make the transition from PBS to ZBS

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      • #48
        Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
        No we need a new scheme. The running game is all muddy. Some of the things the lineman are asked to do in the this run game are ridiculous.
        True, I heard McD changed the O-line system from Shanahans system to his own the bye week after they went 6-0, I don't remember the facts of it, but if that's correct and he did it that way, how stupid and ego filled do you haft to be to go 6-0 and want to change something that drastic? Even so I never thought Moreno was a first round worthy pic and I don't see him as a power RB at all.
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        • #49
          We must move to a majority based zone blocking scheme. Ryan Clady, Zane beadles and J.D. Walton, Chris Kuper are all better suited for the ZBS. They are all very athletic, quick footed and are not the typoe of guys who fly off the ball and just maul people. They dont knock people off the ball and quite honestly they do not play physically. However it does come dont to coaching. I think with the right coaching staff (rick dennison as head coach, with bill muir or tom cable as offensive coordinator and o line coach) could change their mentality.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by one5beast View Post
            Beadles played in a ZBS in college.
            I'm pretty sure Walton can make the transition from PBS to ZBS
            It is a whole nother animal in the NFL. You need to be faster than Beadles is to play in the ZBS in the NFL. There is a huge reason that he is playing guard not tackle now.

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            • #51
              Unlike 2 years ago, there isn't a single position on this roster that would make me say: "They don't need that guy!" if that guy fits what they do.

              Lloyd, for all his '10 success, has done it once in his career and is going into his contract season. He will be looking for a big payday regardless of how he does in 2011. And if you know anything about Lloyd before he came to Denver (Most Broncos fans reject the reality outside of what they think of their Broncos) Brandon Lloyd is just as capable of being a typical WR as anybody. Believe it or not, there is a reason he's been dumped 3-4 times.

              The misuse of Royal has been an absolute crime, good/solid No2 option.

              Thomas is a 6-3 Glass ****** with questionable speed and green as grass route skills. He is every bit as big of a question mark as Tim Tebow, and Tebow is a huge question mark.

              Decker is a possession receiver with a fumbling problem at the moment. Great combo!

              Gaffney is a product of the system so far, and a 4th option at that, how he fares in another system has to be considered a question mark. As it is with all the WR's.

              Love Matthew Willis.

              Is it Denver's deepest position? Certainly. But that's not saying much and there isn't a single player at this position that would make me say: "They don't need AJ Green" if AJ Green is the best player available on the board.

              The Broncos are years away from having the talent base to attract legitimate HC candidates, much less contend for playoffs and SB's.......l don't have any interest in conversation about which position takes priority over the other.

              The Broncos are one of the worst teams in the league, period. They need talent everywhere.

              Broncos fans need to stop pretending that this team is 1 or 2 seasons away.

              The last offensive genius just got through a trading a Top5 WR and castrating a perfectly good No2 WR and the biggest supporters of this strategy just got done saying that anybody is replaceable.......What happened to that logic?

              I'll give you one thing, the Broncos don't need any more depth at the position.......
              Last edited by stnzed; 01-09-2011, 10:18 PM.

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              • #52
                Both Beadles and Walton played zone in college, that's what made drafting them so ridiculous. But that doesn't mean they'd make in a pro ZBS and they've been horrible in Pass Pro anyway.

                Regardless, both are a huge reach where they were drafted and should have no effect on free agency or the draft.......

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                • #53
                  You don't put out a bonfire when the forest is on fire.
                  You don't try to improve the #4 passing attack (with shaky offensive line and QB play the whole year), when the defense is actually the worst in the league.

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                  • #54
                    to me, it wouldn't matter if our two best wide receivers were earnest borgnine and betty white....we need to draft defense...period

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by bbldat257 View Post
                      There's no way Decker is a young, talented player of the same type as Royal and Thomas. Also, Lloyd and Gaffney are productive, but close to the end of their careers. Do you not plan for the future at all?
                      i think your insane man, look at his stats from college, he had good number except for his freshman year, had he not hurt his ankle he probably woulda been a 2nd rounder atleast if not a first rounder, he did good in the small amount of time he played last season, i think he will be a great reciever

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bbldat257 View Post
                        The general theme that I've been hearing from fans is that defense should be the focus of the draft, which I completely agree with. However, looking at our receivers, I can't help but want some new blood. Lloyd had an unbelievable season, but both he and Gaffney are probably on the downhill. Thomas is solid, and I love Royal, but adding someone like Blackmon, Green or Jones could really be a game-changer and help Tebow in his first full year as a starter and keep us relevant on offense. Plus, we could still focus on defense with our 2 (maybe 3 depending on an orton trade, pending new CBA) second round picks. Chances?
                        FAIL, our WR's are fine. Once Lloyd starts to suck or declines with age we have Thomas to take over.

                        Once Gaffney starts to wear down we have Decker to take his place..

                        I'm confidant that Royal will be here for years to come
                        DENVER STAND UP!!!

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                        • #57
                          This idea makes about as much sense as us drafting kickers in the first few rounds to make sure we have our kicker of the future.


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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Apoc13 View Post
                            to me, it wouldn't matter if our two best wide receivers were earnest borgnine and betty white....we need to draft defense...period
                            If tha were the case all we would need is a snickers
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by BroncosTX77 View Post
                              unpopular is not the word I would use....

                              Wide Receiver is the deepest and most talented position on the team.

                              Enough said.

                              Move along.

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                              if they draft a WR with our first pick, i will all but lose faith in our staff. wr is pretty deep already. decker cant even see the field because of this fact.

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