DeAngelo Williams

[zblake10]

No. I think we should get scat back like noel
Devine, Derrick locker or kendall hunter

[Sync]

Our running game needs a spark. Moreno is a good RB but he isn't as explosive as we hoped he would be... and I can't imagine an opposing defense fearing his game-changing ability, because- well- he hasn't shown he has that at the NFL level. Yet. Williams would be a fantastic asset for our offense and an improved running game would help eat up the clock and keep our defense off the field. So it's not an altogether short-sighted idea; signing DeAngelo Williams and having a defense-exclusive draft sounds pretty good to me (perhaps one exception to get ourselves a new, decent pass-catching TE, too).

I am heavily biased though as a huge fan of the player in question.

[Peerless]

Big money for a 27 year old running back.

[Broncoboy6]

with so many needs on defense lol Its like spending the #12 pick on Moreno with Orakpo sitting there.

Don't you mean Clay Matthews instead of Orakpo?.

[Broncoboy6]

It would be nice, But tying up that much money when we need defense wouldn't be the way to go. Unless we can get Deangelo at a very cheap price which i highly doubt.

[Eric Fetzer]

Williams is one of my favorite Rbs in the NFL.

But Williams and Moreno would be too much money tied up in the Rbs.

[Joshecalpoly]

Ok so we are using this year his sophmore year (slump year to most) as the bench mark ok then its only fair we use Williiams year as a bench mark for all future years

Moreno 4.3 ypc (5th among 2nd year 100+ carry rb's 18th overall)

Williams 4.1 ypc

Moreno 182 carries

Williams 87 carries

Moreno 372 receiving yards

Williams 61 receiving yards

Moreno 37 receptions

Williams 11 receptions

Moreno 8 TDs

Williams 1 TD

If we are going to complain that Moreno isnt explosive enough despite the fact he has done well with the way the line was playing, then we would be even madder about Williams especially after 30 mill. He played in half the games Moreno did last year and still was less then half productive. Sorry but this is a stupid idea. If we judge him by that productivity he should get a 2 mill maybe 2.5 a year contract. Especially as a backup.

[Jay3]

I don't want to replace Moreno, just add Williams.

If Williams is going to cost a king's ransom, then pass. But he's an awesome running back.

And your comparison is kind of deceptive -- Williams only played in 6 games this year. His season was ended by injury.

[Joshecalpoly]

I don't want to replace Moreno, just add Williams.

If Williams is going to cost a king's ransom, then pass. But he's an awesome running back.

And your comparison is kind of deceptive -- Williams only played in 6 games this year. His season was ended by injury.

Moreno has been in and out for 13 games due to injury he also had a line who for a better half of the season allowed more TFL's then any other team and more then doubled his production. If we are going to claim that Moreno wasnt explosive this year then we must do the same for Williams, not to mention ypc shouldnt have been changed by that.

Plus, they wanna give a kings ransom to a guy who is coming off of a season ending injury.

[Jay3]

If we are going to claim that Moreno wasnt explosive this year then we must do the same for Williams,

Do you think Moreno wasn't explosive this year? Is he good or not?

Why are you using Moreno's performance to try and prove Williams isn't good?

Williams left early this year. His numbers can't really mean much. Dude scored 18 touchdowns in 2008 and rushed for 1,500 plus.

Sure, if somebody throws a bag of money at him, pass. But I think he's the best running back to hit the free agent market, in his prime, in a long time.

[Snarfalicious]

Of course. Fox + DeAngelo would be a dream come true

It could be a possibility. John Fox knows better than anyone that it takes a stable of RBs in order to get through a season. He will know it all too well if he comes here and sees Moreno/Buck/White sitting there expecting to get carries.

DeAngelo Hall makes sense as a guy we could pair with Moreno and really take the burden off Tebow so that he could simply lead our team and not have to carry the team on his shoulders. Of course, that would also require a lot better OL play.

RBs like DeAngelo Williams don't come to be free agents often, so it would at least be advantageous to kick the tires and find out if he in any way could make sense in a monetary sense.

[onefivefuture]

signing Williams would be a very smart move when hes healthy hes one of the top backs in the league. it would be worth the investment in my opinion. he has a big play ability not really found in moreno making him a great compliment.

[Broncoboy6]

*Deangelo Williams
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G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
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2010 6 6 87 361 4.1 39T 1 11 61 5.5 14 0 1 1

2009 13 13 216 1,117 5.2 77 7 29 252 8.7 30 0 3 3

2008 16 16 273 1,515 5.5 69T 18 22 121 5.5 25T 2 -- --

2007 16 0 144 717 5.0 75 4 23 175 7.6 30 1 1 1

2006 13 2 121 501 4.1 31 1 33 313 9.5 41 1 1 0
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TTL 841 4,211 5.0 77 31 118 922 7.8 41 4 6 5



*Knowshon Moreno
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G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
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2010 13 13 182 779 4.3 35 5 37 372 10.1 45 3 3 2
2009 16 9 247 947 3.8 36 7 28 213 7.6 27 2 4 4
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TTL 429 1,726 4.0 36 12 65 585 9.0 45 5 7 6


Not saying anything, Just found this curiously interesting.

[Sync]

If we are going to claim that Moreno wasnt explosive this year then we must do the same for Williams...

I'd have to disagree. Stats are important and can be persuasive up to a point, sure (even if I'm not sure I agree with how you're presenting the stats), but my conclusion that Moreno has not shown explosiveness at NFL level is simply from watching both RBs play. Moreno hasn't been "explosive" nor has he been a game-changer.

Williams is more of a threat, breaks bigger and more decisive runs. Moreno is good for a few yards on a consistent basis and will occasionally rumble for ten to fifteen. It's no knock on Moreno, he's a good RB and still fresh, however adding DeAngelo if he's available at a relatively reasonable price tag can only be a positive thing.

Williams/Moreno would be a pretty awesome tandem working behind Tebow.

Just my opinion.

[Joshecalpoly]

Do you think Moreno wasn't explosive this year? Is he vgood or not?

Why are you using Moreno's performance to try and prove Williams isn't good?

Williams left early this year. His numbers can't really mean much. Dude scored 18 touchdowns in 2008 and rushed for 1,500 plus.

Sure, if somebody throws a bag of money at him, pass. But I think he's the best running back to hit the free agent market, in his prime, in a long time.

Im saying Moreno isnt as bad as people are making him out to be. No he wiill never be as good in the open field as McCoy, but for a team having trouble getting RB's off the line he has done well.

Hes even played with bruised ribs for several games, and in the last half 8 games did you know hes averaged 5 ypc. That and its possible he could have a breakout year next year. His biggest issue is we continue to use him on goal line and short yardage situations which has caused him to get hurt and honestly shortened his production. For those that want to get rid of him I will say this he is the 2nd highest scorer on our team that may not be great but its important to a team with so few TD's.

Sure Ild want Williams but not for the price tag the OP gave. With all the money we will owe due to mass cuts and the major face lift needed that salary cap could close in faster then yould think. If he can replace Buckhalter as the backup then held be a great pick up.