Am I the only one...

[Doheenz]

...that does not love any player at #2

For the past few weeks i've been considering all of the prospects we could take at #2 and i just don't love any of them in that spot. Let me elaborate on each potential prospect...

Nick Fairley- My favorite potential pick at #2 but still don't love him... I've heard about potential character concerns as well as 'experts' speculating that he would not have gone in the top 5-10 last year.

Daquan Bowers- Bowers is a player that passes the eyeball test but his one year of sack production as well as his recent surgery really scare me. It certainly could be that he just came into his own this year as a pass rusher, but it still scares me.

Patrick Peterson- I really dont like the thought of taking a CB this high in the draft for one reason. His production will have a direct correlation with how well our front seven plays and gets pressure on the QB. Take into account that CB's need to have a certain arrogance and i would be worried that after a subpar first (or couple) seasons he could lose his confidence (Alphonso Smith???)

Marcel Darius- Certainly the fact has to be brought up that he is widely considered the second best DT in the draft to Nick Fairley... Other than that, of the film i've seen from him i just haven't been that impressed with his play. The one highlight i tend to always see is the pick six on colt mccoy, other than that he doesn't seem to be a big-time playmaker..

AJ Green- AJ, to me, seems to be the 'safest pick' at #2 the problem is that he simply doesn't fill a large need.. I know I know, some of you preach taking BPA, but our defense has been so bad for so long i think its vital to inject talent towards that side of the ball early and often in this coming draft.

Von Miller- He has shot up the board as of late, im just not that sold on him.. He would essentially translate to a WLB or DJ Williams position, whom is probably our only locked in good front seven player atm.

JJ Watt- I have heard some talk about Watt at #2 and while i really like his game, im not sure it translates well into the 3-4, he would essentially be a power DE (ayers anyone) whom would be considered slow compared to the Doom's, Freeney's and Tuck's of the world... or he would be a bit of an undersized UT on passing downs...

Cam Jordan- Let me get this straight, I LOVE CAM JORDAN... just not at this pick... I believe he has the potential to become a Mario Williams type player as a 4-3 end... but again, the pick seems a bit high for his position as i believe we could have him as well as some extra compensation in terms of draft picks..
---------------------

These are just my thoughts on our position this coming April, i really hope we consider trading down and getting the MOST out of our pick.

[JayJack]

I love Cameron Jordan and JJ Watt at #2, but I don't like drafting a DE at that position unless we were still in the 3-4.

As for the rest you named, i'm not thrilled at all by any of those selections.

[broncos SB2010]

It's hard for any 3-4 DE to be a big playmaker so i wouldn't hold that against Dareus.

[Kansas Bob]

Trouble that I see is that when drafting #2 in the first round, you sure don't want to blow it!!! That could really hurt any team! Fairley has issues, DBs don't usually get picked that high, Denver don't need a QB, Bowers has knee problems. So who does that leave???
My theory is that almost any front seven player would probably help IF DENVER CAN KEEP THEIR OWN FA's!

[BmarshALLDAY]

I agree.. The players both have positives and negatives and for me it's just narrowing it down to who has the least amount of negatives and will impact this team immediately OR in the future. My personal opinion is to draft Patrick Peterson and convert him to safety. That is his all-pro position where he can excel more than he would at corner. And at this point our team is drafting for the future and not for immediate impacts and PP will help us the most in the long run..

[beastlyskronk]

It depends on what we could get for Kyle Orton, assuming a CBA is done or they can deal before the current one expires if it hasn't already. It also depends on if we can sign some of these players being cut. If we can get a 2nd, or even a 3rd/5th or 6th for Orton, I would probably be for taking the "safest pick" which is AJ Green. AJ Green would help our offense immensely and definitely help to prevent Tebow from busting. But if we can't deal Orton I think we have to trade down or draft a defensive player.

[themadfanatic]

I think if fairleys there we must take him. I'd like to trade back for quinn but I'm really starting to like both PP (as a FS) if we keep champ and aj green with DTs injury issues and lloyd being so old. I liked bowers but I think he just had his 2nd knee surgery so IDK. Ill take PP,green, or quinn but we need paea and martez in the 2nd and hopefully burton in the 3rd if he's there and a few great FAs like james anderson,harris,champ,vickerson

[Garywolf001]

I'm a little tired of the misconception a #2 pick is worth a #2 pick. A #2 pick means of all the teams that wanted you, the team with the highest pick that wanted you happened to have the #2 pick, thats it.

[Doheenz]

I'm a little tired of the misconception a #2 pick is worth a #2 pick. A #2 pick means of all the teams that wanted you, the team with the highest pick that wanted you happened to have the #2 pick, thats it.

not quite...

The number 2 pick is worth just what it's called... the number 2 pick

As it stands now, the player we pick at number 2 will be guaranteed alot of money it is very essential to a franchise to not miss on such a high pick; otherwise, if the player turns out to be a bust you have locked up a lot of your teams resources into one player that is not contributing at a level worthy of his salary.

Now for example if were talking about the number 20 pick, as it stands now, the compensation is much different... It's still not good, but you can afford to miss on that pick because the lost cap space for that player not contributing is much less substantial...

Edit: The problem with this draft, to me, is that their are no elite players worth taking with our pick. Just think, if it were last year we could land Suh and our DT problems would be solved almost regardless of who's playing next to him; but this year their isnt as close to a sure thing as a Suh or a Calvin Johnson for us to take at number 2...

[Kyousukeneko]

it is fairly or trade down and pick Ryan Kerrigan, i sware this kid will produce more sacks then any one out of this draft class, a more athletic version of jerad allen

[beastlyskronk]

not quite...

The number 2 pick is worth just what it's called... the number 2 pick

As it stands now, the player we pick at number 2 will be guaranteed alot of money it is very essential to a franchise to not miss on such a high pick; otherwise, if the player turns out to be a bust you have locked up a lot of your teams resources into one player that is not contributing at a level worthy of his salary.

Now for example if were talking about the number 20 pick, as it stands now, the compensation is much different... It's still not good, but you can afford to miss on that pick because the lost cap space for that player not contributing is much less substantial...

Edit: The problem with this draft, to me, is that their are no elite players worth taking with our pick. Just think, if it were last year we could land Suh and our DT problems would be solved almost regardless of who's playing next to him; but this year their isnt as close to a sure thing as a Suh or a Calvin Johnson for us to take at number 2...

I actually think AJ Green is a sure thing, they actually have the same weaknesses (Calvin Johnson and him). Coming out of college Johnson was nitpicked for rounding some of his routes off and not always coming back to the ball, AJ Green does the same thing.

But as far as taking him, it depends on who you think will step up this year for us and what we can get for some of our current players, if we can actually trade them. It also depends on whether or not we can sign some guys in FA which will probably come after the draft.

[Doheenz]

I actually think AJ Green is a sure thing, they actually have the same weaknesses (Calvin Johnson and him). Coming out of college Johnson was nitpicked for rounding some of his routes off and not always coming back to the ball, AJ Green does the same thing.

But as far as taking him, it depends on who you think will step up this year for us and what we can get for some of our current players, if we can actually trade them. It also depends on whether or not we can sign some guys in FA which will probably come after the draft.

The thing about Megatron is that he is/was more physically gifted, at 6-5 220 he ran a 4.3 ect... which Green will probably not do, although i do agree that Green is the closest prospect to a sure thing in this draft...

I also agree with the underlined portion in that i believe ayers and doom will produce at DE, so im not very high at all on taking a Bowers at #2 and i believe that our WR corp is solid so a player like Green will not be as beneficial to us as an impact defensive player...

[BluenOrnge4Life]

I heard reports that Buffalo is pretty interested in Cam Newton at #3, so we just need his stock to keep rising because that means teams will likely try to jump in front of Buffalo to grab him.

The good thing about that is that we are at #2 and if there are several teams interested in moving up, the price to move up to that #2 spot could be high.

If some team wants to pull a Josh Mcdaniels and give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, you jump all over it and trade back.

We could use extra picks and then take the best Front Seven player available.

It's great if we get an absolute stud at #2, but this franchise can't afford to miss on this pick, and I'm not that sold on any of the guys to the point that I would turn down the chance to trade back.

I'd rather stack the odds in our favor with multiple picks, especially considering the fact that this team has so many holes.

[Garywolf001]

not quite...

The number 2 pick is worth just what it's called... the number 2 pick

As it stands now, the player we pick at number 2 will be guaranteed alot of money it is very essential to a franchise to not miss on such a high pick; otherwise, if the player turns out to be a bust you have locked up a lot of your teams resources into one player that is not contributing at a level worthy of his salary.

Now for example if were talking about the number 20 pick, as it stands now, the compensation is much different... It's still not good, but you can afford to miss on that pick because the lost cap space for that player not contributing is much less substantial...

Edit: The problem with this draft, to me, is that their are no elite players worth taking with our pick. Just think, if it were last year we could land Suh and our DT problems would be solved almost regardless of who's playing next to him; but this year their isnt as close to a sure thing as a Suh or a Calvin Johnson for us to take at number 2...

That’s because your only looking at it from the point of view of "we need a DL" I'm not trying to argue whether or not that’s what we need, just saying if we had a perfect defense already and we didn't need a DL you would be looking at different people entirely, Jones, Ingram, Newton. This is the biggest Jr. class ever, lots of great players out there and if your afraid of the DL picks for #2 then you trade down to get your moneys worth for 2 late picks.
A good coach can take 2 good DLs and make them look great together. Everybody wants the Orange Crush back but few remember most were nobodys by themselves before Old Red made them a unit, Gradishar was drafted 14th, Tom Jackson Round 4 #88, Barney Chavous Round 2 Pick 36, Lyle Alzado Round 4 # 79, Rubin Carter Round 5 #121, Bob Swenson undrafted free agent, Joe Rizzo Round 15 #369 (By the Buffalo Bills), Billy Thompson Round 3 #61, Louis Wright Round 1 #17, Thank you Wikipedia for the stats. You can see from this all 5 of your front guys don’t haft to be top 10 drafts, yes it would be nice, but good coaching and teamwork is more important in my book than how high a guy was drafted.

[Touch_30_Down]

AJ Green is a nice physical specimen but is not Calvin Johnson. That being said he has better hands, and runs better routes.