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  • Todd McShays New Mock

    He has-

    2. Von Miller
    (Dareus at 1)
    36. Jurrell Casey
    (Paea gone)
    46. Rahim Moore

    Odd... none if those guys are high on my radar.

  • #2
    I would cry. Casey is a reach there, and I want no part of von Miller at #2. He's a better fit for a 3-4, and we need to get one of the top 2 DTs with our first pick IMO.

    :2cents:

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    • #3
      Wow.... Hope not. I really like Von Miller, but only if we can trade down and get a bunch more picks. And Casey in the second will most likely result in me needing a new tv...

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      • #4
        I'm starting to think about a mock draft that gives a DE to Denver at #2. I'm serious. Then we get 2 quality DTs in the 2nd round. Because I think it will be hard to find a quality DE for the 4-3 after the 1st round. Get a top DE because we don't know if Ayers will be a capable starter, if Dumervil will be 100% back and the rotation would be much improved. DE-DT-DT. That's a huge power surge for the DL that is switching back to the 4-3.

        EDIT: now start casting the stones.

        EDIT 2: and don't forget to mention that Ayers will turn into Superman in his 3rd year.
        Last edited by -Rod-; 03-16-2011, 06:29 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Roddoliver View Post
          I'm starting to think about a mock draft that gives a DE to Denver at #2. I'm serious. Then we get 2 quality DTs in the 2nd round. Because I think it will be hard to find a quality DE for the 4-3 after the 1st round. Get a top DE because we don't know if Ayers will be a capable starter, if Dumervil will be 100% back and the rotation would be much improved. DE-DT-DT. That's a huge power surge for the DL that is switching back to the 4-3.
          I agree...to an extent. I posted a while back that a DE at #2 makes a lot of sense. If Dareus is there then he should be the pick, but if he goes to carolina, then Bowers, Quinn, or even a surprise pick of kerrigan, would be a nice choice.
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          • #6
            I suspect Mayock's thinking is that we have several positions of need -- defensive end, defensive tackle, strongside linebacker, safety, cornerback, tight end. So we take the best player available at one of those positions.

            Defensive Tackle -- A couple (Dareus, Fairley) worthy of the #2 pick, but there are lots of good DTs available in the draft

            Defensive End -- One (Bowers) worthy of the #2 pick, but again, lots of good DEs available in the draft.

            Safety -- Very few good safeties available, and none worth the #2 pick.

            Cornerback -- only one worth the #2 pick, but many good cornerbacks available throughout the draft.

            Tight End -- Not very many good TEs in the draft, and none worth the #2 spot.

            That leaves...

            Strongside linebacker -- not very many good strongside linebackers available, and Miller is far and away the best, also worth the #2 pick.

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            • #7
              In the end, the Broncos pick will be Dareus.

              I think Gabbert is going to go No. 1 overall to Carolina.

              With what is probably going to be a contract structured by a rookie wage scale, the Panthers can afford to take a shot at Gabbert....and the kid is a good prospect for them. To me, he looks right in that Matt Ryan mold, and in that Division, with Brees, Ryan and Josh Freeman, the Panthers absolutely HAVE to have a QB, period, end of story.

              The pick for them will be Gabbert or Cam Newton, watch.

              That leaves Dareus for the Broncos, and something tells me Mikel LeShoure is going to seriously figure in with that first second round pick. He is a Fox type of back, and with Moreno, you would have the two backs for the two-back system he wants to run...

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              • #8
                I agree with MindField I think as long as Dareus is there at 2 and we stay put he is the pick and I hope he is the pick

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SmokeBassett View Post
                  I suspect Mayock's thinking is that we have several positions of need -- defensive end, defensive tackle, strongside linebacker, safety, cornerback, tight end. So we take the best player available at one of those positions.

                  Defensive Tackle -- A couple (Dareus, Fairley) worthy of the #2 pick, but there are lots of good DTs available in the draft

                  Defensive End -- One (Bowers) worthy of the #2 pick, but again, lots of good DEs available in the draft.

                  Safety -- Very few good safeties available, and none worth the #2 pick.

                  Cornerback -- only one worth the #2 pick, but many good cornerbacks available throughout the draft.

                  Tight End -- Not very many good TEs in the draft, and none worth the #2 spot.

                  That leaves...

                  Strongside linebacker -- not very many good strongside linebackers available, and Miller is far and away the best, also worth the #2 pick.
                  I am starting to think Ryan Kerrigan may be worth that #2 spot if dareus is gone.

                  He has been consistent his entire career as a 3 year starter. stats:

                  2008..56 tackles, 11.5 TFL, 7 sacks, 2 FF
                  2009..65 tackles, 17 TFL, 11 sacks, 6 FF
                  2010..70 tackles, 26 TFL, 12.5 sacks, 5 FF

                  Kerrigan actually has 3 years of solid stats that went up each year, not just the one year stats of Bowers and Quinn. He was a team captian and academic all american so he has some smarts as well. At the combine he also put up top stats with a 4.67 40 (1.61 10 yards), 10'-2" broad jump (#1 for DEs not counting Moch who is a LB, imo), 33 vertical, and 31 reps on the bench.

                  I think kerrigan has the skills, consistency, lack of health issues and off the field issues to move him up to the #1 4-3 DE prospect.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                    I am starting to think Ryan Kerrigan may be worth that #2 spot if dareus is gone.

                    He has been consistent his entire career as a 3 year starter. stats:

                    2008..56 tackles, 11.5 TFL, 7 sacks, 2 FF
                    2009..65 tackles, 17 TFL, 11 sacks, 6 FF
                    2010..70 tackles, 26 TFL, 12.5 sacks, 5 FF

                    Kerrigan actually has 3 years of solid stats that went up each year, not just the one year stats of Bowers and Quinn. He was a team captian and academic all american so he has some smarts as well. At the combine he also put up top stats with a 4.67 40 (1.61 10 yards), 10'-2" broad jump (#1 for DEs not counting Moch who is a LB, imo), 33 vertical, and 31 reps on the bench.

                    I think kerrigan has the skills, consistency, lack of health issues and off the field issues to move him up to the #1 4-3 DE prospect.
                    If we take Kerrigan at 2 I will throw my TV out the window
                    What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
                    I don't know and I don't care

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
                      If we take Kerrigan at 2 I will throw my TV out the window
                      have fun with that. what is it about him you don't like? I highly doubt he will be the pick but I think he may be a better prospect than either Quinn or Bowers. I don't like Fairley. So after Dareus, I see him and Watt as the best Dlinemen
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                        I am starting to think Ryan Kerrigan may be worth that #2 spot if dareus is gone.
                        I like Kerrigan a lot, I think he is the safest pick as far as 4-3 DE. And his numbers at the Combine were very good, similar to Robert Quinn who is considered a special athlete. I like him more than Bowers especially after the knee surgery. We will see what happens in the NFL.
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                        • #13
                          I won't throw my tv out the window but I think 2 for Kerrigan is a little high. I would take Jordan or Watt over him and trade back in doing so

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                            have fun with that. what is it about him you don't like? I highly doubt he will be the pick but I think he may be a better prospect than either Quinn or Bowers. I don't like Fairley. So after Dareus, I see him and Watt as the best Dlinemen
                            It's not that he's not good, it's just bowers and Quinn are better
                            What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
                            I don't know and I don't care

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
                              It's not that he's not good, it's just bowers and Quinn are better
                              Why? Kerrigan had stats equal to, or better than Bowers (who is coming off knee surgery) and Quinn didn't even play last year and Kerrigan had better stats than him the year he did play.

                              Equal production (better production if you count consistency), no injury history, no off the field issues, equal or better measurables...how is he worse?
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