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  • 2nd round targets: Reed (1 AFC West team "likes" him), & Liuget, Wilson

    One AFC West scout "significantly upgraded" Arizona DE Brooks Reed's draft grade after watching him play in person against Iowa.

    Reed tormented highly regarded Hawkeyes left tackle Riley Reiff throughout that game, racking up an absurd five quarterback pressures, four QB hits, 3.5 tackles, and 2.5 sacks. It was probably Reed's best game of the season. He did it all playing from a three-point stance, but is expected to be an outside linebacker playing in a two-point stance at the next level.

    (Rotoworld.com)

    University of Arizona outside linebacker-defensive end Brooks Reed is rising on NFL draft boards, according to league sources with knowledge of the situation.

    Initially regarded as a second-round draft selection, he's now entering the first-round conversation and has been linked to the Green Bay Packers' 32nd overall selection in recent mock drafts.

    Reed has been drawing comparions to Packers star linebacker Clay Matthews for reasons beyond having long blond hair.

    Reed had the top 10-yard split among all defensive lineman with a 1.54 clocking. Like Matthews, he's also regarded as a former Pac-10 player who moved up considerably as a senior.

    Reed operated in a three-man rotation with another top pass rusher, Ricky Elmore, who recorded 11 sacks, and D'Aundre Reed.

    Reed had a sprained ankle during his junior season.

    An AFC West scout said he significantly upgraded his grade on Reed after watching him play against Iowa in person.

    The nearly 6-foot-3, 263-pounder recorded 47 tackles, 6 1/2 sacks and 10 tackles for losses last season.

    For his career, the All-Pac 10 Conference selection registered 114 career tackles and 17 sacks.

    At the NFL scouting combine, Reed ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 seconds, bench pressed 225 pounds 30 times. He also posted a 30 1/2 inch vertical leap and a 9-5 broad jump.

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    Any idea which team? 25% chance your guess is right? I say SD or KC, b/c they run the 3-4. BUT, could DEN be looking at him?

    One of our possible 2nd round targets looks to be off the board now:

    According to Sporting News' Russ Lande, Illinois' Corey Liuget has emerged as an "elite" defensive tackle prospect behind only Marcell Dareus and Nick Fairley in the 2011 draft class.

    Lande described Liuget's Pro Day as "great," and CBS Sports' Rob Rang echoes the sentiment. One longtime scout characterized the session as "one of the best workouts I've ever seen from a defensive lineman." Per Rang, Liuget displayed "great explosiveness, hip flexibility, and quick feet." Added one scout "I'm not sure (Liuget) broke a sweat." Liuget will be in the first round of our next mock draft. He hadn't been to this point.

    And another one might have slipped a bit:

    Illinois ILB Martez Wilson struggled at the Fighting Illini Pro Day according to multiple accounts.

    Wilson demonstrated "stiffness," according to Sporting News' Russ Lande, and CBS Sports' Rob Rang heard even more scathing reviews. "Everyone left that workout disappointed with him," said one scout. "His footwork was bad, his hands were bad, even his countenance was bad. ... He didn't look like he wanted to be there." This won't ease concern that Wilson was a workout wonder at the Combine, running the fastest forty among linebackers.

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    Not sure what this has to do with anything... But I was hoping to get a player like Reed with our 3rd round pick. Maybe now we get lucky and Wilson or Jones falls to us in the 3rd.

    Any chance we get Liuget in the 2nd? Or should we look at Reed?

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    Do you even read your own links? They are saying Liuget is elite which means he should get taken in the top 20 at the very least. And for Reed is looking like a first round pick with his stock rising by the week. So I am thinking that is wishful thinking. And for Wilson I could see him falling to the 3rd maybe even 4th.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by broncsfan219 View Post
      Do you even read your own links? They are saying Liuget is elite which means he should get taken in the top 20 at the very least. And for Reed is looking like a first round pick with his stock rising by the week. So I am thinking that is wishful thinking. And for Wilson I could see him falling to the 3rd maybe even 4th.
      Come down Cowboy. "THEY" say Liuget will go in the first round. I agree. I was just asking for OTHER people's opinion, checking to see if we had any hope CL would still be on the board come our first 2nd round pick.

      "THEY" say Reed is a possible 1st round, but they have him going to GB (who owns the last pick in the 1st round). To think he might "fall" to us 4 picks later... is that crazy?

      Would we even consider taking Reed with that pick?

      I defintely think we have a shot at Wilson and Jones in the 3rd. SO, if we go LB in the 3rd (or plan on it), what do we do in the 2nd? DL and OL?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fraguela09 View Post
        I defintely think we have a shot at Wilson and Jones in the 3rd.
        Do we really want either of these guys to play LB? I like Jones, but have some concerns he'll end up a "great in college, shame about the pros" kind of guy due to his limited physical talents. Wilson is the opposite - a workout warrior who simply isn't a natural LB - his best fit will probably be a 3-4 thumper who moves to the outside to rush the QB in obvious passing situations.

        If we are looking for a LB in the 3rd, I'd suggest considering Nate Irving, Quan Strudivant, Mason Foster, Kelvin Sheppard, Bruce Carter, KJ Wright, Colin McCarthy. Some of these guys will be gone, a few are a bit of a reach, but there should be some decent options available when we pick.

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        • #5
          I certainly wouldn't mind the Broncos getting Dareus or Fairley #2 and then a DE with #34. But, you have to remember other needs:

          LB, S, OT, RB, DT (they need two starters remember?).

          So there is a good chance that Fox (and no matter what the organization chart says Fox will have the biggest say) will go in another direction with the first pick of the 2nd than DL. It will all depend on who falls out of the first round.

          There's almost always some players who are thought to have late 1st round talent, who fall into the top of the 2nd for one reason or another -- Clinton Portis is a good example you all probably remember.
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          • #6
            OT not a problum area if we get harris back
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            • #7
              i think it would be the chargers and chiefs most interested in reed since they run the 3-4.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
                OT not a problum area if we get harris back
                How so? If either Clady or Harris gets hurt at all, who steps in to play OT? What do they do if they don't get an OT in the draft and then no Harris in FA? OT is a primary need!!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                  How so? If either Clady or Harris gets hurt at all, who steps in to play OT? What do they do if they don't get an OT in the draft and then no Harris in FA? OT is a primary need!!
                  Draft a guard, and move beadles to OT.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                    How so? If either Clady or Harris gets hurt at all, who steps in to play OT? What do they do if they don't get an OT in the draft and then no Harris in FA? OT is a primary need!!
                    beadles can play OT he is just better at LG, i think bringi ng in vet depth in FA is all we need for our line ebcause we have really good core of young line men that are scheme diverse. we also have olsen who can step in at LG if beadles move to RT.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
                      Draft a guard, and move beadles to OT.
                      Beadles is not a starting caliber OT.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                        How so? If either Clady or Harris gets hurt at all, who steps in to play OT? What do they do if they don't get an OT in the draft and then no Harris in FA? OT is a primary need!!
                        You play a backup OT. You shouldn't spend high draft picks on backups.
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                        • #13
                          I expect Reed to go to a 3-4 team.

                          Liuget will likely go top 20. There has never been any chance that he'd fall out of the first.

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                          • #14
                            I can't edit my other post for whatever reason, but I wanted to add on Brooks Reed.

                            I'm higher then him then most, if he went top 15 I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's gonna be a steal. The guy tears it up. I hope he goes to a 4-3 team to play end, as I think he'll be better there. But he can also probably play in a 3-4 effectively. I'd be on cloud 9 if he fell to us in the 2nd, but it's very unlikely.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Project KSL View Post
                              I expect Reed to go to a 3-4 team.

                              Liuget will likely go top 20. There has never been any chance that he'd fall out of the first.
                              Yes there was a preety large actually a monster chance before the senior bowl that he will he would fall out of the first. Since then. He has sky rocketed. Plus as of late he seems to be getting a lot of negative attention but i have always had him mocked going to Atlanta but around senior bowl time i moved him up all the way to top 20.

                              Originally posted by Project KSL View Post
                              I can't edit my other post for whatever reason, but I wanted to add on Brooks Reed.

                              I'm higher then him then most, if he went top 15 I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's gonna be a steal. The guy tears it up. I hope he goes to a 4-3 team to play end, as I think he'll be better there. But he can also probably play in a 3-4 effectively. I'd be on cloud 9 if he fell to us in the 2nd, but it's very unlikely.
                              I would be a little suprised if he went top 15. I just dont think he fits. With guys like:

                              LB-Miller

                              DT-Darius
                              DT-Fairley
                              DT-Luiget
                              DT-Paea
                              DE-Jordan
                              DE-Watt
                              DE-Bowers
                              DE-Quinn
                              DE-Kerrigen
                              DE-Smith
                              DE-Clayborn
                              CB-Peterson
                              CB-Amukamara
                              QB-Newton
                              QB-Gabbert
                              WR-Green
                              WR-Jones
                              RB-Ingram
                              OT-Solder
                              OT-Smith
                              OT-Castanzo

                              With talent like this I dont see him going in the top 15

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