Broncos Schedule Private Vist With Cam Newton April 18th in Denver

[johnlimburg]

It may be a smoke screen it may not be.

[Junitz23]

Definantly a smokescreen, we aren't taking a Qb in the first 3 rounds. I think its pretty obvious we are taking DT with the #2 or trade back little back and taking one. From my point of view John Fox wants to rebuild through a youth movement on the DL (hence releasing veterans) and only having 1 DT on the roster.

[BroncoFanBoy]

There is no doubt that we are taking a QB....If we arent then we are as bad a team as every football mind thinks that we are. If you arent interested in QB, YOU DONT SCHEDULE VISITS WITH QB'S.....It is that simple. We get 12 private sessions....You dont waste those.... At this point I wont be shocked in the least if we dont take a QB in our first 2 picks.

Does the word SMOKESCREEN appeal to you in any way? We're likely trying to trade back, or get someone to trade in front of us so they'd take a QB, and we'd get our guy. Gabbert might go 1st overall to Carolina and then some team like the Cardinals might want to trade up to our spot to take Cam Newton.

That would also explain why we're "looking" at Locker, Ponder, and Kaepernick. With the exception of Locker, they're going to be drafted 2nd round. They trade up ahead of us to take them so we "don't". It would make last year when we traded a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for Tebow look like one of our dumbest moves ever.

I'd even bet $400 that the Broncos will NOT draft a QB in rounds 1, 2, or 3. Maybe later in the draft.

[Jay3]

I'm now persuaded they are looking at taking a quarterback.

I am not persuaded that they are going to take a quarterback at the #2 pick. I think they are thinking backup for Tebow, or possible replacement if he turns out to be better than Tebow.

But to evaluate the position for a pick in the top 3 rounds, you have to do your "due diligence" and look at all of them. John Fox has experience with Clausen falling all the way to the second round, and I don't think his team had given enough consideration to what they would do.

Similarly, Colt McCoy fell all the way to the 3rd round. So if you're thinking quarterback at all, you have to look at all of them.

But I do believe using that #2 pick on a quarterback would be idiotic. And I don't think Elway and Fox are idiots. Ergo, I conclude they are not planning to do that.

[Project KSL]

Does the word SMOKESCREEN appeal to you in any way? We're likely trying to trade back, or get someone to trade in front of us so they'd take a QB, and we'd get our guy. Gabbert might go 1st overall to Carolina and then some team like the Cardinals might want to trade up to our spot to take Cam Newton.

That would also explain why we're "looking" at Locker, Ponder, and Kaepernick. With the exception of Locker, they're going to be drafted 2nd round. They trade up ahead of us to take them so we "don't". It would make last year when we traded a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for Tebow look like one of our dumbest moves ever.

I'd even bet $400 that the Broncos will NOT draft a QB in rounds 1, 2, or 3. Maybe later in the draft.

We're not looking 6 deep at QB's to try and "fool" other teams. We have spent more time evaluating the QB position then any other position. By a big margin. We won't trade back, the pick at #2 isn't getting traded. It NEVER happens, and I'm sure our FO is smart enough to know that. What were likely doing (considering our extra 2nd) is evaluating late 1 prospects, because we'll have an easier time trading up then most other teams. I just absolutely do not get how people ignore what is right in front of them.

The Denver Broncos' front office is doing a horrible job if we're actually spending this much time just trying to "fool" other teams. After QB, the next highest evaluated position is what? DT? With 2? We're looking at 6 QB's....6. It may not be popular, but it's clearly what we're doing.

[BroncoFanBoy]

We're not looking 6 deep at QB's to try and "fool" other teams. We have spent more time evaluating the QB position then any other position. By a big margin. We won't trade back, the pick at #2 isn't getting traded. It NEVER happens, and I'm sure our FO is smart enough to know that. What were likely doing (considering our extra 2nd) is evaluating late 1 prospects, because we'll have an easier time trading up then most other teams. I just absolutely do not get how people ignore what is right in front of them.

The Denver Broncos' front office is doing a horrible job if we're actually spending this much time just trying to "fool" other teams. After QB, the next highest evaluated position is what? DT? With 2? We're looking at 6 QB's....6. It may not be popular, but it's clearly what we're doing.

If we're not trying to fool other teams, then why else are we looking at the QB'S? Pick number 2 won't be easy to trade, but I think it could be possible. It also sends a message saying to the teams interested in a QB (like Arizona or Tennessee) that there's no guarantee their guy (Newton or Gabbert) will be available when they pick unless they trade up to 2nd overall.

The fans love Tebow and it would run Elway's legacy if he traded Tim and either kept Orton to start, or got someone else. (Unless it's someone like Aaron Rodgers.)

Plus, why we we also looking at Colin Kaepernick, Jake Locker, and Christian Ponder? Both Kaepernick and Ponder will be second rounders. Maybe Locker too. It will be hells lot easier to trade down from the 36th spot to like 40 or something than it would from 2nd overall. Maybe get a low 3rd or 4th.

[Project KSL]

Okay first off. Tebow will NEVER be as loved as John Elway.

Second, fans care a lot more about winning then Tebow.

And finally, we're looking at those QB's because we're clearly interested in a QB.

Why don't proletariat get that new regimes mean new QB's? It's the most common thing in the NFL.

John Elway has ZERO obligation to Tim Tebow, zero. He didn't scout him, he didn't want him, and he didn't draft him. You have a mock out, and you have Gabbert going #1. Explain to me why Gabbert makes sense there, but Denver shouldn't look at QB's. We were the worst 2 teams last year, both have new coaches, both teams spent a high pick on a QB just last year. The situations are nearly identical. You guys have to face it. We're doing wha teams do, we're looking at draft prospects. And we're looking more closely at prospects we like. Look at this list of prospects that Denver has scheduled workouts with( I may be missing 1 or 2)

Dareus
Bowers
Gabbert
Bailey
Peterson
Ponder
Murray
Locker
Miller
Peterson
Mallett
Newton
Kaepernick

Out of all those players 6 of them are qb's!!!

Come on guys... I'll break it down.

New regimes=new QB's

The new people in charge don't want Josh McDaniels' leftovers. Cannot wait for the draft, when we pick a QB I'm going to come on here and go nuts.

[Project KSL]

Why don't proletariat get that new regimes mean new QB's?


I meant "Why don't people get" for whatever reason my iPhone decided to autofill that.

[BroncoFanBoy]

Okay first off. Tebow will NEVER be as loved as John Elway. Not as much, true, but he is very popular in Denver and the fans would HATE to see Tebow get traded and replaced

Second, fans care a lot more about winning then Tebow. He can lead us to more wins

And finally, we're looking at those QB's because we're clearly interested in a QB. Again, smokescreen. Gabbert could go 1st overall. Debatable. Plus, we were also looking at some 2nd round QB's, such as Kaepernick and Ponder. One team that missed out on a QB in the first round (Tennessee, San Francisco, maybe even Seattle) could look to trade up to 36. It's a lot easier to trade down from

Why don't proletariat get that new regimes mean new QB's? It's the most common thing in the NFL. You may have a solid point here, but after spending one season with Jimmy Clausen as his starting QB, I don't think Fox would want to go with another rookie.

John Elway has ZERO obligation to Tim Tebow, zero. He didn't scout him, he didn't want him, Does it matter if he didn't want him? He wasn't vice president yet. and he didn't draft him. You have a mock out, and you have Gabbert going #1. Explain to me why Gabbert makes sense there, but Denver shouldn't look at QB's. Unlike us, Carolina DOES need a QB. They had the worst passing offense in the NFL last season. I still think it isn't a lock Gabbert is going there, but it's possible. We were the worst 2 teams last year, both have new coaches, both teams spent a high pick on a QB just last year. Our defense was god-awful, our run game was god-awful, our run blocking was god-awful, and we were very badly coached. That's why McDaniels got fired. The situations are nearly identical. You guys have to face it. We're doing wha teams do, we're looking at draft prospects. I'm willing to bet $400 that we won't draft a QB in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round. Does it really make much sense to take Cam Newton or Gabbert? Newton's situation was very similar to Tebow's coming out of college. National champion, winner, hard work, questionable mechanics. Why on earth would we dump Tebow for someone that's very similar? And we're looking more closely at prospects we like. You're probably fooled then. Look at this list of prospects that Denver has scheduled workouts with( I may be missing 1 or 2)

Dareus very likely
Bowers fills a need
Gabbert (he's possibly going 1st overall)
Bailey He's going in the 2nd
Peterson As much as I don't want Peterson, and would like to draft a DT like Dareus, I'd take him over a QB anyday
Ponder second round. Some team who missed out on a QB in the first might want to trade up for him
Murray I'm happy about this
Locker I love Locker's potential, but we're not gonna draft him. IMO, only way we can is if we reach for him at 2nd overall. He won't be available at 36.
Miller
Peterson You already said this
Mallett Likely second rounder
Newton Why would we get rid of Tebow to draft Newton? Newton also has mechanics problems, and he has some character concerns. He reminds me of Jamarcus Russell. Hate to compare him to a huge draft bust, but he's similar
Kaepernick Second rounder some team who missed out on a QB in the first will draft

Out of all those players 6 of them are qb's!!!

Come on guys... I'll break it down.

New regimes=new QB's


The new people in charge don't want Josh McDaniels' leftovers. Cannot wait for the draft, when we pick a QB I'm going to come on here and go nuts. What, you don't like Tebow? That's a first

Responses in bold. Plus, may I add that I watched tebow's documentary on YouTube, and Brian Xanders (who's still here) also wanted Tebow. He even said it at the end of the video. It wasn't just McDaniels.

CP bet. If the Broncos draft a QB in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round, I'll CP you. If they don't, and some team trades up either to our spot, or in front of us to take a QB, you CP me. Got it?

[Project KSL]

I'll take your cp bet.

Simple bet.

If we draft a QB in the 1st 3, you cp me.

If we don't I'll cp you.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm now persuaded they are looking at taking a quarterback.

I am not persuaded that they are going to take a quarterback at the #2 pick. I think they are thinking backup for Tebow, or possible replacement if he turns out to be better than Tebow.

But to evaluate the position for a pick in the top 3 rounds, you have to do your "due diligence" and look at all of them. John Fox has experience with Clausen falling all the way to the second round, and I don't think his team had given enough consideration to what they would do.

Similarly, Colt McCoy fell all the way to the 3rd round. So if you're thinking quarterback at all, you have to look at all of them.

But I do believe using that #2 pick on a quarterback would be idiotic. And I don't think Elway and Fox are idiots. Ergo, I conclude they are not planning to do that.

I could definitely see them taking Kapernik in the 3rd. He has tremendous upside. I just don't think he'll fall that far. Who knows, one of those guys might, and he's the most likely to.

I also like the idea of Dalton in the 3rd. He'd be an excellent back up, IMO.

[-Rod-]

I'm thinking about this draft based on what Xanders and Fox said. Get 4 starters with the first 4 picks. Best players available for positions of need. If they take a QB that early, it would not be a backup. It would be the starting QB for the new regime. Probably in the 1st or 2nd round. With Orton, Tebow and Quinn on the roster, and so many needs, I can't see a draft pick being spent on a QB. But hey, I also did not expect McDaniels to draft Tebow when Orton, Quinn and Brandstater were on the roster.

[BroncoFanBoy]

I'll take your cp bet.

Simple bet.

If we draft a QB in the 1st 3, you cp me.

If we don't I'll cp you.

Plus also think about it. We all know Elway loves Andrew Luck. He's publicly said it. If the lockout happens, we're picking 2nd overall again next year. If Carolina does take Gabbert or Newton 1st overall, they won't be selecting a QB next year. That means They would pass on Luck next year and he would be all ours. If Elway passed on Andrew Luck, it would be a huge surprise.

[Mantheyman]

Plus also think about it. We all know Elway loves Andrew Luck. He's publicly said it. If the lockout happens, we're picking 2nd overall again next year. If Carolina does take Gabbert or Newton 1st overall, they won't be selecting a QB next year. That means They would pass on Luck next year and he would be all ours. If Elway passed on Andrew Luck, it would be a huge surprise.

Where has Elway said he loves Luck? He's been complimentary of him(Luck), but has never outright said his affection for the kid. I think you're starting to plunge into some serious denial over this QB thing, man. The writing is on the wall.:paper:

[BroncoFanBoy]

Where has Elway said he loves Luck? He's been complimentary of him(Luck), but has never outright said his affection for the kid. I think you're starting to plunge into some serious denial over this QB thing, man. The writing is on the wall.:paper:

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