Broncos Schedule Private Vist With Cam Newton April 18th in Denver

[johnlimburg]

I didnt watch gabbert all that much but i know he struggled mightily against colorado last year

[bigtimebronco]

Gabbert also had a big arm, better accuracy then anyone not named Bradford from last year's class, and the measureable you want. I'm not a Gabbert fan, but he is a very good PROSPECT.

I don't think Jimmy Clausen is better then Tebow, or any of the guys I listed after him. However I put that list together as if the 2010 draft hadn't happened, and last year Clausen was the #2 consensus QB.

Newton is 50x the passer Tebow is, and if it wasn't for his character issues. He'd be the clear #1 QB this year. Newton has Tebow beat on EVERYTHING related to passing. Mechanics, motion, release, arm strength, accuracy.... Everything. That's not even debateable man.

People raved about the arms of Russell, Leaf, Smith, Clausen and so many others coming into the draft. Look where they ended up.

[johnlimburg]

That is 100% false. Before we took him.... Everyone last year hated the idea of taking Tebow. Don't believe me? Go look up
my
mock last year that I posted in January. Where I HAD THE BRONCOS TAKING TEBOW. Go look at those comments. Yeh you did call that but it was it november. CP.

If they merged the classes bias aside. This is how it would go

Bradford
Gabbert
Newton
Clausen
Locker

I beleive the class would go if it was based purely on talnet alone. Mallet would be there if he wasnt a drug using partying bum. Appaarently.:

Bradford
Gabbert
Newton
Mallet

Then you can have your pick of 6th among Ponder, Kaps, Mallett, Tebow and whoever else.

NO ONE HAD A FIRST ROUND GRADE ON TEBOW

Just because he's now on the Broncos' roster doesn't mean he's better now.

I beleive a few people actually did have a first round grade down. Not a high first but a 20-65 guy. Apparently if the broncos didnt trade up for him there were a few other teams that would of according to mark schlereth.

[Project KSL]

Gabbert and Newton are highly regarded QBs in an extremely weak draft class dude.

Gabbert is inaccurate and struggles greatly produced in arguably the easiest offense in football.

Chase Daniels was lethal in the offense and look where he is. Gabbert has nothing on Daniels as a passer, yet because of his measurable is a first round prospect in the media.

Newton much like Tebow made his crust of being a dual threat, Newton the better runner and Tebow the better passer. Tebow however comes without character concerns and had done it over 3/4 years, Newton, only 1 and he's coming out. Most teams if they had the choice of the two would take Tebow imo. Tebow presents a very similar package with excellent intagibles and leadership.

Also, I don't understand how you have Clausen going before Tebow. If 2 teams had a first round projection for Tebow, it means none had a first round projection for Clausen. There was 24 picks between where they went, surely Clausen would've gone earlier then.

Gabbert also had a big arm, better accuracy then anyone not named Bradford from last year's class, and the measureable you want. I'm not a Gabbert fan, but he is a very good PROSPECT.

I don't think Jimmy Clausen is better then Tebow, or any of the guys I listed after him. However I put that list together as if the 2010 draft hadn't happened, and last year Clausen was the #2 consensus QB.

Newton is 50x the passer Tebow is, and if it wasn't for his character issues. He'd be the clear #1 QB this year. Newton has Tebow beat on EVERYTHING related to passing. Mechanics, motion, release, arm strength, accuracy.... Everything. That's not even debateable man.

[Project KSL]

Lets not forget that John Fox was very high on Tebow during the draft prospect. Just because the broncos arent singing praises for tebow doesnt mean theyre not confident in him. He started 3 games, he's essentially still a rookie and it would be extremely unwise to even verbally commit to him at this point. When you're 4-12 with the 2nd overall piick you need to look at every position unless you have a franchise quarterback.

Uh what? John Fox was high on Tebow coming out? Link? Because if he's said anything to that degree since he's been the Broncos' coach, it holds no validity. I don't think we're going to take a QB at #2. but we will have one by round 3, bank on it.

[Lukic]

That is 100% false. Before we took him.... Everyone last year hated the idea of taking Tebow. Don't believe me? Go look up
my
mock last year that I posted in January. Where I HAD THE BRONCOS TAKING TEBOW. Go look at those comments.

If they merged the classes bias aside. This is how it would go

Bradford
Gabbert
Newton
Clausen
Locker


Then you can have your pick of 6th among Ponder, Kaps, Mallett, Tebow and whoever else.

NO ONE HAD A FIRST ROUND GRADE ON TEBOW

Just because he's now on the Broncos' roster doesn't mean he's better now.

Gabbert and Newton are highly regarded QBs in an extremely weak draft class dude.

Gabbert is inaccurate and struggles greatly produced in arguably the easiest offense in football.

Chase Daniels was lethal in the offense and look where he is. Gabbert has nothing on Daniels as a passer, yet because of his measurable is a first round prospect in the media.

Newton much like Tebow made his crust of being a dual threat, Newton the better runner and Tebow the better passer. Tebow however comes without character concerns and had done it over 3/4 years, Newton, only 1 and he's coming out. Most teams if they had the choice of the two would take Tebow imo. Tebow presents a very similar package with excellent intagibles and leadership.

Also, I don't understand how you have Clausen going before Tebow. If 2 teams had a first round projection for Tebow, it means none had a first round projection for Clausen. There was 24 picks between where they went, surely Clausen would've gone earlier then.

[bigtimebronco]

Lets not forget that John Fox was very high on Tebow during the draft prospect. Just because the broncos arent singing praises for tebow doesnt mean theyre not confident in him. He started 3 games, he's essentially still a rookie and it would be extremely unwise to even verbally commit to him at this point. When you're 4-12 with the 2nd overall piick you need to look at every position unless you have a franchise quarterback.

[catsigater]

If John Elway or John Fox, or Brian Xanders think Cam Newton is going to make it as an NFL QB, they should step aside for people who know what they're doing.

[Project KSL]

Elway has NEVER said anything to make you think he's happy with Tebow. Armchair GM's say this QB class is bad, last year everyone said the same thing " next years will be better". People say that almost every year. Last year we had Bradford with his serious shoulder concerns, Jimmy clausen, Tim Tebow. And this class is bad? Bradford had a very solid rookie year, the other 2 will likely have replacements by the end of April. This years top 3 is a lot better then last years. Not to
mention, you have guys like Mallett who is by far the best passer. That might now go until day 2.

This is a business, and new regimes don't want to risk THEIR JOBS by sticking with what got the old regime fired. Our defense was awful, we switch the scheme. Out drafts have been awful, absolutely terrible. You change as much as possible. I can't make this any simpler.

New regimes=New QB's

Just because we have Josh's boytoy doesn't mean he gets a pass. He was inherited, and is the definition of

defintion of " Project QB". The guy that wanted this "Project QB" is now in St. Louis. Because of incompetence.

[Project KSL]

None of the QBs in this draft would've had a first ground last year, period.

None of them would've gone before Jimmy Clausen.

No I'm not high kid.

That is 100% false. Before we took him.... Everyone last year hated the idea of taking Tebow. Don't believe me? Go look up
my
mock last year that I posted in January. Where I HAD THE BRONCOS TAKING TEBOW. Go look at those comments.

If they merged the classes bias aside. This is how it would go

Bradford
Gabbert
Newton
Clausen
Locker


Then you can have your pick of 6th among Ponder, Kaps, Mallett, Tebow and whoever else.

NO ONE HAD A FIRST ROUND GRADE ON TEBOW

Just because he's now on the Broncos' roster doesn't mean he's better now.

[Project KSL]

Who said our ownership isnt happy with our quarterbacks? They havent said anything to suggest that. and sure, theoretically, lets say we want to take a quarterback, this years class of quarterbacks is so bad that it would be common sense to at leave give our former 1st round draft pick a shot, or start our near pro-bowl season qb from last season, and if those dont pan out, then take a guy in the 2012 draft which will have much better prospects at the quarterback position.

Elway has NEVER said anything to make you think he's happy with Tebow. Armchair GM's say this QB class is bad, last year everyone said the same thing " next years will be better". People say that almost every year. Last year we had Bradford with his serious shoulder concerns, Jimmy clausen, Tim Tebow. And this class is bad? Bradford had a very solid rookie year, the other 2 will likely have replacements by the end of April. This years top 3 is a lot better then last years. Not to
mention, you have guys like Mallett who is by far the best passer. That might now go until day 2.

This is a business, and new regimes don't want to risk THEIR JOBS by sticking with what got the old regime fired. Our defense was awful, we switch the scheme. Out drafts have been awful, absolutely terrible. You change as much as possible. I can't make this any simpler.

New regimes=New QB's

Just because we have Josh's boytoy doesn't mean he gets a pass. He was inherited, and is the definition of

[Lukic]

None of the QBs in this draft would've had a first ground last year, period.

None of them would've gone before Jimmy Clausen.

No I'm not high kid.

[bigtimebronco]

In all seriousness, are you f*cking high?

Like two teams gave a first round grade to Tim Tebow and one of them just happened to be the Broncos and a front office that has been fired because of how bad they were.

Let's get one thing clear.

Tim Tebow has a lot of talents. He's a great leader. He's smart, he has his head on straight. But he's not an elite quarterback. Can he develop into one? Sure. But it takes time.

The Broncos are bringing in quarterbacks because they're interested in quarterbacks. Period. You don't bring in THAT MANY of a position that you're not interested in.

Are the Broncos taking a QB second overall? Not necessarily. But it's absolutely a possibility. It's as strong, if not stronger, of a possibility than any other position.

Even if they don't go QB at No. 2, though, they will likely be looking to take a QB with their second round pick or by packaging that pick with later-round picks to move up into the end of the first, where they will then select a QB.

If you think that the new decision-makers for the Broncos are sold on Tim Tebow, you are out of your damn mind.

We all know they arent sold, but at this point to spend another high round pick on a quarterback even from i financial standpoint is sheer stupidity.

[bigtimebronco]

I love how people bring up Xanders' comments like that was set in stone, guess that'd couldn't be everyone's favorite word huh? This is getting comical. Honestly. Simple minded huh?

Let me try to break down how you guys are being right now.

Your favorite market is fruit shopping.... Okay?

The market has already has some fruit, namely mangos. That's were left behind by the previous ownership. And you see the current ownership, doesn't really want the former ownership's bad products.

So your market ( with it's limited time) schedules visits with all the top fruit farmers.

It schedules visits with

1 apple farmer

2 pineapple farmers

And 6 mango farmers

most are upset by their decision.

Because as I stated, they already have mangos. And accepting the truth, can be hard.

So instead of being reasonable, they instead lie to themselves with blatently false statements.

Such as " I heard that we're gonna trade the right to choose the 2nd best farm for $50,000,000".

.........Even though it never happens.

This is honestly what this is now.

100% denial.

The comment about Tebow being the best in this class had he come out I'm not even going to justify that with a response.

This is what is was like last year.... When we brought in Tebow.

"OMGG SMOKESCREEN, NO CHANCE, WE NEED DEFENSE"

it's the exact same thing.

Who said our ownership isnt happy with our quarterbacks? They havent said anything to suggest that. and sure, theoretically, lets say we want to take a quarterback, this years class of quarterbacks is so bad that it would be common sense to at leave give our former 1st round draft pick a shot, or start our near pro-bowl season qb from last season, and if those dont pan out, then take a guy in the 2012 draft which will have much better prospects at the quarterback position.

[Jay3]

It's easier to conceptualize by making it mangos.