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  • #46
    Originally posted by toothpick View Post
    Their is NO proof that he is in bad shape
    Are you kidding me?

    Do you remeber the beginning of the preseason? Haynesworthless was all over espn because he couldnt pass his physical.

    In Tennessee he played around 320 and was very effective.

    In Washington he plays around 350 and very much less effective.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Touch_30_Down View Post
      I love how you say this when Haynesworth is FAR from a sure thing.
      And I really would LOVEEEEEE to have him in my locker room.
      you dont know what kind of guy he really is. He was portrayed as a punk by the media but he may be a cool guy. You never know

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      • #48
        Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
        you dont know what kind of guy he really is. He was portrayed as a punk by the media but he may be a cool guy. You never know
        You can take that chance.
        After what happened last year I'm not with any pick that we have except maybe a 6th.

        Didn't his teammates have something to say about what he did?
        Their is NO proof that he is in bad shape
        You've got to be kidding me.
        Last edited by Touch_30_Down; 04-05-2011, 01:47 PM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Touch_30_Down View Post
          You can take that chance.
          After what happened last year I'm not with any pick that we have except maybe a 6th.
          I agree. But i wasnt referring to the OP's post and idea as it is an aweful one IMO.

          I was talking about my trade idea.

          Denver gets:

          #10 Overall
          #41 Overall
          DT-Albert Haynsworth
          TE-Fred Davis

          Washington gets:

          #2 Overall

          Then with that #10 pick I think we could honestly trade down to the number #17 spot with NE or the #18 spot with San Diego. I beleive they will both be wanting the best 5 tech 3-4 end in the draft. I beleive either Cameron Jordan or JJ Watt will go to Dallas leaving the other at number 10. NE and SD will not want to risk IMO Houston trying to get the other. Therefor with both teams having two second round picks they would be willing to trade up.

          I would say trade the #10 to San Diego in exchange for the #18 and the #50

          I think both would be a realistic trade and very good for us. I would still take 2DT's in the first 2 rounds. I would take one in the first still with the trade.

          We wouldnt have to take a TE at all. Quinn and Davis would be the primary two with Gronkowski as the number 3 backupup.

          With my trade I would go:

          1st: DT-Cory Luiget
          2nd: DT-Stephen Paea
          2nd: S-Quinton Carter
          2nd: DE-Sam Acho
          2nd: SLB-Bruce Carter
          3rd: MLB-Kelvin Sheppard

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          • #50
            Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
            I agree. But i wasnt referring to the OP's post and idea as it is an aweful one IMO.

            I was talking about my trade idea.

            Denver gets:

            #10 Overall
            #41 Overall
            DT-Albert Haynsworth
            TE-Fred Davis

            Washington gets:

            #2 Overall

            Then with that #10 pick I think we could honestly trade down to the number #17 spot with NE or the #18 spot with San Diego. I beleive they will both be wanting the best 5 tech 3-4 end in the draft. I beleive either Cameron Jordan or JJ Watt will go to Dallas leaving the other at number 10. NE and SD will not want to risk IMO Houston trying to get the other. Therefor with both teams having two second round picks they would be willing to trade up.

            I would say trade the #10 to San Diego in exchange for the #18 and the #50

            I think both would be a realistic trade and very good for us. I would still take 2DT's in the first 2 rounds. I would take one in the first still with the trade.

            We wouldnt have to take a TE at all. Quinn and Davis would be the primary two with Gronkowski as the number 3 backupup.

            With my trade I would go:

            1st: DT-Cory Luiget
            2nd: DT-Stephen Paea
            2nd: S-Quinton Carter
            2nd: DE-Sam Acho
            2nd: SLB-Bruce Carter
            3rd: MLB-Kelvin Sheppard
            I'd say Mikel LeShoure is more likely than Paea if they take Liuget and trade for AH, and I'd go RT instead of Beal

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            • #51
              Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
              I'd say Mikel LeShoure is more likely than Paea if they take Liuget and trade for AH, and I'd go RT instead of Beal
              I didnt say Beal.

              But I would still be pissed if we took a RB. If we get more picks why not add even more talent to the defense.

              It would be asolid line if what I said would happen:

              Ayers-----Luiget-----Haynsworth-----Dumervil
              Acho------Paea-------Vickerson------Veikune
              Hunter

              Carter----------Sheppard----------Williams
              Haggan-----------Mays------------Woodyard

              Bailey------------------------------Goodman
              Cox--------------------------------Thompson
              Vaughn

              ------------Carter-------------Mcbath---------
              -------------Hill---------------Dawkins--------

              Without FA and just a draft that would be pretty sweet

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              • #52
                Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
                I didnt say Beal.

                But I would still be pissed if we took a RB. If we get more picks why not add even more talent to the defense.

                It would be asolid line if what I said would happen:

                Ayers-----Luiget-----Haynsworth-----Dumervil
                Acho------Paea-------Vickerson------Veikune
                Hunter

                Carter----------Sheppard----------Williams
                Haggan-----------Mays------------Woodyard

                Bailey------------------------------Goodman
                Cox--------------------------------Thompson
                Vaughn

                ------------Carter-------------Mcbath---------
                -------------Hill---------------Dawkins--------

                Without FA and just a draft that would be pretty sweet
                Sorry about the Beal/Acho mixup but I'm not in board with taking a guy who won't start over guys who either would.start or split the starting job.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
                  Sorry about the Beal/Acho mixup but I'm not in board with taking a guy who won't start over guys who either would.start or split the starting job.
                  Well like every one presumes we will take 2 DT's in the first 3 rounds. Even you with taking PP in the first beleive this right.

                  Well I can assure you that we dont start two DT rookies in the middle. So what the hell is wrong with having a depth rotational DE. Plus you want leshoure. Would he start. Probaly not. Therefor depth is not out of the question. These players will not be givin a starting spot. They will have to earn it. So we expect possibly one of the first 3 picks to be depth and competition. Especially if we take 2 DTs in the first.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by THEdraftnik View Post
                    Are you kidding me?

                    Do you remeber the beginning of the preseason? Haynesworthless was all over espn because he couldnt pass his physical.

                    In Tennessee he played around 320 and was very effective.

                    In Washington he plays around 350 and very much less effective.
                    Are you kidding? me as a NOSE TACKLE you have to play at a bigger weight he cant play at that weight meaning he isnt a NOSE tackle that weight he was meant to put on.....
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
                      Well like every one presumes we will take 2 DT's in the first 3 rounds. Even you with taking PP in the first beleive this right.

                      Well I can assure you that we dont start two DT rookies in the middle. So what the hell is wrong with having a depth rotational DE. Plus you want leshoure. Would he start. Probaly not. Therefor depth is not out of the question. These players will not be givin a starting spot. They will have to earn it. So we expect possibly one of the first 3 picks to be depth and competition. Especially if we take 2 DTs in the first.
                      LeShoure would get half carries.

                      I'm actually more on the "only draft 1 DT early" train now.
                      But what about a RT to protect Tebow's blind side? Chris Clark isn't exactly...great.

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                      • #56
                        In a 3-4 the NOSE TACKLE is meant to play at 350+ lbs and thats what Washington wanted out of him once shanny came in and changed the scheme and rightfully so they are paying the guy bank. BUT he cant play the position he has played in a 4-3 his entire career in Tennessee. So he was made out to be a punk because he and shanny didn't see eye to eye on that he wants to play in a 4-3 again last year he had 13 tackle and 2.5 sacks in a 3-4 and not starting very much. "played 50% of the games last year" to his 41 tackles and 8.5 sacks in his last year in tenn. His image is battered a bit but the guy is looking to prove people wrong and for the right price I think it FAR out weighs the bad.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
                          LeShoure would get half carries.

                          I'm actually more on the "only draft 1 DT early" train now.
                          But what about a RT to protect Tebow's blind side? Chris Clark isn't exactly...great.
                          I just dont think we need to do that.

                          Ryan Harris is a RFA i beleive. Or UFA. Doesnt matter, he will resign IMO. Even if he does we should still draft a backup.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
                            I just dont think we need to do that.

                            Ryan Harris is a RFA i beleive. Or UFA. Doesnt matter, he will resign IMO. Even if he does we should still draft a backup.
                            Denver admitted they tried to trade him, he'd be insanely loyal to come back.

                            Just my opinion, if I'm in his spot, I'm saying, "**** you guys, I'm outta here"

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
                              Denver admitted they tried to trade him, he'd be insanely loyal to come back.

                              Just my opinion, if I'm in his spot, I'm saying, "**** you guys, I'm outta here"
                              When.......

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
                                When.......
                                http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Broncos-attempted-to-trade-Ryan-Harris-last-season.html

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