What do you think of.....

[toothpick]

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Seeing as how Patrick Peterson can also play special teams he not only can effect the Defense and make plays on that side of the ball but he can change the entire game returning punts kickoffs all that.
We had 10 total Interceptions last year. I know allot of that stems from the pass rush. What I'm trying to get through to you is that I am NOT sold on either Darius or Fairley I think if either of these two guys were in last years draft class they would 15-25 in the 1st round instead we are talking about darius going top 2. RULE NUMBER ONE when drafting don't pick a guy out of desperation do it because you have him rated that high and he is worthy of the pick. This draft is plenty deep in the Defensive line go after one in rounds 2 or 3

[dieselpower]

terrible.....................the guy is gunna get released.............no need to trade or even say hey we need him..........

shanny dont put up with no ****. ie see ya.

and i wouldnt be down with take'n him.........naw no dice..............

id be cool with gettin peterson though.....they dont grow on trees.

[SmokeBassett]

Drafting Patrick Peterson with the 2nd overall pick. Then taking Kyle Orton and a 3rd rd pick and trading them to Washington for DT Albert Hansworth. I know it's risky for Denver to make this trade because of all of the issues that he has had with Washington but the guy immediately upgrades the D line and is proven in a 4-3. Plus we have 2 play making Corners then using the rest of the draft to grab youth on the line. I think if that is opportunity arose that we should pull the trigger without thinking twice.

I don't think it's a bad idea. If Haynesworth has any good play left in him, then he would be a good Disruptor Tackle. Then we grab a Stephen Paea or a Phil Taylor to be a nose tackle.

Peterson is good but not quite as good in coverage as Andre Goodman, but he would be much better in run support. Frankly, I would like to see Peterson become a safety. It takes a little more experience to play safety than cornerback, but we could keep it simple for him at first. Then we take Curtis Marsh or Johnny Patrick in a later round and we're set at corner. Then we take Chris Harris out of Kansas and we have a prototypical nickel back prospect. We're set on the D-line and in the secondary, all we need is a SLB.

[johnlimburg]

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Seeing as how Patrick Peterson can also play special teams he not only can effect the Defense and make plays on that side of the ball but he can change the entire game returning punts kickoffs all that.

So everyone cried when DT played special teams because he was a first rounder in the 20s but now people are using this for an arguemnt for him to come here at the # 2. Plus how much impact wIll he have. Will he average 10 yards per return like majority of returners and what eddie does anyway. If he is a fulltime starter he will return for no longer than a year. We need a specilists to be a returner only.

We had 10 total Interceptions last year. I know allot of that stems from the pass rush.

Thankyou

What I'm trying to get through to you is that I am NOT sold on either Darius or Fairley I think if either of these two guys were in last years draft class they would 15-25 in the 1st round instead we are talking about darius going top 2. RULE NUMBER ONE when drafting don't pick a guy out of desperation do it because you have him rated that high and he is worthy of the pick. This draft is plenty deep in the Defensive line go after one in rounds 2 or 3

15-25. Please. 5-10 Maybe but not 15-25. I have said this the whole time aswell and it is a bad time to pick top 5 this year. PP wouldnt have gone top 5 either. Berry would have been more appealing to KC and the top 4 picks would have been the same. :rolleyes

I will bet you just a CP that the denver broncos dont draft PP. They have inserted some brains into the equation with John Fox and Elway.

They dont just like the sexy picks like some fans.

[johnlimburg]

I don't think it's a bad idea. If Haynesworth has any good play left in him, then he would be a good Disruptor Tackle. Then we grab a Stephen Paea or a Phil Taylor to be a nose tackle.

Yeh but then we should get the best LB to add even more front 7 presnce.

Peterson is good but not quite as good in coverage as Andre Goodman, but he would be much better in run support.

You havny watched PP have you. His effort in the run game at times is non existant and will often back away from atticking in the run game. He is a better in coverage then against the run.

Frankly, I would like to see Peterson become a safety. It takes a little more experience to play safety than cornerback, but we could keep it simple for him at first.

We need a safety yes but not at #2 with a guy whos best talenbt would be wasted. If I was rating him as a safety I would rate him behind Quinton Carter quite honestly. He is top notch corner. Why complicate things. He will not be converted if we draft him. If we do lose our mind and draft him it will to be a CB.

Then we take Curtis Marsh or Johnny Patrick in a later round and we're set at corner. Then we take Chris Harris out of Kansas and we have a prototypical nickel back prospect. We're set on the D-line and in the secondary, all we need is a SLB.

So you want to draft 2 late corners like we did last year with Cox (who showed he has potential to start down the road if he can improve a little area of his game which is locating the ball in the air) and syd who looked great at nickel.

People our cornerback situation is fine. We have two young safties in Mcbath and Bruton and two vets in Dawkins and Hill. If we maybe add one second-third round safety our secondary is set.

Why would you seriously want to add 3 more dbacks.

[toothpick]

I will bet you just a CP that the denver broncos dont draft PP. They have inserted some brains into the equation with John Fox and Elway.

They dont just like the sexy picks like some fans.

Well some fans actually know what makes the New englands and the Pittsburgs and Indy's always playoffs teams they don't draft PURELY off of a Need they stick to the big board and dont let a NEED sway them from the best players available the 1st isnt the only round in the nfl draft maybe you didnt get the memo round 2 starts the next day....

[THEdraftnik]

Well some fans actually know what makes the New englands and the Pittsburgs and Indy's always playoffs teams they don't draft PURELY off of a Need they stick to the big board and dont let a NEED sway them from the best players available the 1st isnt the only round in the nfl draft maybe you didnt get the memo round 2 starts the next day....

New England has a solid roster without needs, of course they go BPA.

Pittsburg drafts the best front 7 player available nearly every year.

Indy drafts purely need.

Research is your friend.

[elway93]

How is that a terrible idea we would fill so many holes around the D that way. I mean of course the thing picks or players traded or draft picks would depend but all in all I think its a great idea..

From what I saw this year and last offseason Haynesworth comes across as one of the laziest players and worst team mates in the NFL. I would hate to see him wearing a broncos uniform, especially with that huge contract he has.

[Touch_30_Down]

It is so we can play a 1-3-7 defense.
Vickerson would play nose.
Ayers, Doom, and D.J would play as our linebackers and blitzers. Then we would have a great secondary of Cox, Marsh, Dawkins, Peterson, Bailey, Thompson, and Carter.
DUHHHHHHHHH

[johnlimburg]

Well some fans actually know what makes the New englands and the Pittsburgs and Indy's always playoffs teams they don't draft PURELY off of a Need they stick to the big board and dont let a NEED sway them from the best players available the 1st isnt the only round in the nfl draft maybe you didnt get the memo round 2 starts the next day....

Before you start throwing out the "didnt you get the memo" you could try to type something into the computer. Just type Indianaolis roster into google. They dont have a very good football team. Without manning they are not playoff team. They are always going need.

New England the last time they picked heigh they went to the trenches and went DE/DT. Richard Seymour. You know what happen the next year. They won the SB. New England drafted a CB and he was great yes but they wernt very good pass rushing team. That was a reason they didnt get to the next level.

Also what do the three teams you have mentioned have in common. They all have all pro QB's. That covers up for a hell of a lot of wholes.

Plus all teams go need pretty much to a certain degree. They never truely go the best player if they have that best playerfilledon their team.

I really like your sig. It should say Peterson though.

PS: I will CP bet you the broncos dont touch Peterson in the first because they have a football brain and understands how football works.

[SoundsOfSuccess]

Before you start throwing out the "didnt you get the memo" you could try to type something into the computer. Just type Indianaolis roster into google. They dont have a very good football team. Without manning they are not playoff team. They are always going need.

New England the last time they picked heigh they went to the trenches and went DE/DT. Richard Seymour. You know what happen the next year. They won the SB. New England drafted a CB and he was great yes but they wernt very good pass rushing team. That was a reason they didnt get to the next level.

Also what do the three teams you have mentioned have in common. They all have all pro QB's. That covers up for a hell of a lot of wholes.

Plus all teams go need pretty much to a certain degree. They never truely go the best player if they have that best playerfilledon their team.

I really like your sig. It should say Peterson though.

PS: I will CP bet you the broncos dont touch Peterson in the first because they have a football brain and understands how football works.

Are we just supposed to believe you that New England's team failed down the stretch because of lack of pass rush just because you said, or can you actually back it up?

I'm not trying to insult you in any way, I just want some meat to the meal.

[johnlimburg]

Are we just supposed to believe you that New England's team failed down the stretch because of lack of pass rush just because you said, or can you actually back it up?

I'm not trying to insult you in any way, I just want some meat to the meal.

Evidence is watching the game against the Jets where they were eliminated. They couldnt get to sanchaz and gave him time to beat that secondary of theres. It was evident if they just had that one pass rusher at OLB or from the dline they might have been able to make a play and force IMO a bad QB into a mistake or kill a drive.

NE didnt have one sack at all and Sanchaz was made to look like a great QB which he isnt.

He had like a 100+ QB rating and threw like 2 or 3 touchdown with no interceptions.

If NE had a pass rusher like a von miller from this draft or a Elvis Dumervil, or Clay Mathews I beleive they win that game.

That is the reason in the first round of this draft NE go atleast 1 5 tech or an OLB rush guy like Justin Houston or Aldon Smith. If not both. I gurantee it.

[SoundsOfSuccess]

Evidence is watching the game against the Jets where they were eliminated. They couldnt get to sanchaz and gave him time to beat that secondary of theres. It was evident if they just had that one pass rusher at OLB or from the dline they might have been able to make a play and force IMO a bad QB into a mistake or kill a drive.

NE didnt have one sack at all and Sanchaz was made to look like a great QB which he isnt.

He had like a 100+ QB rating and threw like 2 or 3 touchdown with no interceptions.

If NE had a pass rusher like a von miller from this draft or a Elvis Dumervil, or Clay Mathews I beleive they win that game.

That is the reason in the first round of this draft NE go atleast 1 5 tech or an OLB rush guy like Justin Houston or Aldon Smith. If not both. I gurantee it.

I'm not sure what a "gurantee" is

But thank you.

[johnlimburg]

I'm not sure what a "gurantee" is

But thank you.

Well if you have read my posts around here I gather you and everyone else knows I cant spell very good.

[toothpick]

Before you start throwing out the "didnt you get the memo" you could try to type something into the computer. Just type Indianaolis roster into google. They dont have a very good football team. Without manning they are not playoff team. They are always going need.

New England the last time they picked heigh they went to the trenches and went DE/DT. Richard Seymour. You know what happen the next year. They won the SB. New England drafted a CB and he was great yes but they wernt very good pass rushing team. That was a reason they didnt get to the next level.

Also what do the three teams you have mentioned have in common. They all have all pro QB's. That covers up for a hell of a lot of wholes.

Plus all teams go need pretty much to a certain degree. They never truely go the best player if they have that best playerfilledon their team.

I really like your sig. It should say Peterson though.

PS: I will CP bet you the broncos dont touch Peterson in the first because they have a football brain and understands how football works.

Pittsburgh 1st doesn't draft on pure need but I'm not here to debate that with you and I'm not here to debate that your pick is better than my pick. You obviously don't know what your talking about. My point of view isn't that our need is or isn't front 7 help it's that I BELIEVE that Marcel Darius is going to be a bust and just because we are desperate for front 7 help we should NOT stretch and pick this guy. You have a different way of thinking than I do. I'm not going to bet you any CP because I never said the pick IS going to be Patrick Peterson I said it should be. Learn to read 2nd learn to spell go to google download firefox it has a built in spell check.

Good day.