Can't build Rome in one day Denver Broncos mock

[trenchwar08]

Thanks for the thoughts and comments, Johnlimburg.

I think we need a TE who can be a factor in the route-running, pass-catching part of the game. But not with a high 2nd round pick this year.

But our O-Line is thin and the last 2 years has been only middling in performance. Maybe last year's two rookies will show some upside improvement. But I think we could use 1 more studd. I want a line that can open up holes and also give the QB time. Tebow needs time to process. And Orton can't escape pressure.

As for our CB's, agreed that Cox and Syd could develop into good corners. But Goodman avoids tackling responsibilities, and that drives me nuts.

Agreed on the need for improvement at OLB (a guy who can rush the QB and also have pass coverage skills).

Agreed we need to strengthen our Safety corps.

The 2nd Round will be fun/interesting.

[johnlimburg]

Agreed our biggest need is D-Line, but

We also have a pressing need to shore up the O-Line. And in my mind, I think its a toss-up between need at Linebacker vs Cornerback.

Cornerback is not a highneed. Safety and Linebacker are of a bigger need on the defense that corner. Also TE is a bigger need as is OT. Corner is a long way down the list IMO>

1st: DT
2nd: LB
3rd: S
4th: OT
5th: TE
6th: RB
7th: CB

Our corner group is one of the better ones in the NFL.

Champ is champ and goodman is one of the better number 2s in the league. Cox showed otential and if he can learn to locate the football in the air he will be the future at RCB. Syd showed to be a very very good nickel guy and cassius vaugh showed he has value as depth and a returner. No need for a corner in the first 3 rounds.

If we do get Marcell Dareus (DT) in the first round, and the rest of the first round has some surprises, our Second Round could present us with strong choices at OT, OG, LB and CB, as well as DT.

Could be available at #36:
Stephen Paea - DT
Gabe Carimi - OT
Derek Sherrod - OT
Orlando Franklin - OG No way him this high.
Danny Watkins - OG
Brandon Harris - CB I would maybe be happy if Jimmy Smith fell here bu for no other. JS is the best man to man cover corner in the draft.
Ras-I Dowling - CB

Thoughts in bold

[trenchwar08]

Agreed our biggest need is D-Line, but

We also have a pressing need to shore up the O-Line. And in my mind, I think its a toss-up between need at Linebacker vs Cornerback.

If we do get Marcell Dareus (DT) in the first round, and the rest of the first round has some surprises, our Second Round could present us with strong choices at OT, OG, LB and CB, as well as DT.

Could be available at #36:
Stephen Paea - DT
Gabe Carimi - OT
Derek Sherrod - OT
Orlando Franklin - OG
Danny Watkins - OG
Brandon Harris - CB
Ras-I Dowling - CB

[SmokeBassett]

Rome wasn't built in one day and as we all know the Denver Broncos have holes throughout the roster. This could take some time to rebuild, but I think we should start with the #32 ranked defense.

With the current state of the NFL, no trading of players, etc. I realize I'm leaving areas of concern out of my mock, just trying to grab as much talent as possible with the picks as they sit right now.

Feel free to flame away!

Round 1 (2) DT Marcell Dareus, Alabama - Defense is the #1 problem in Denver and I believe you build offense and defense from the inside out. The trenches is where it all begins on the football field, so Marcell is my pick. He is capable of anchoring the line for years to come.

Round 2 (36) DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State - Paea and Dareus should clog the middle for years. Run Stop!

Round 2 (46) LB Mason Foster, Washington - He was the captain of his defense in college and he can be a captain here. Al Wilson if you will. Has a nose for the ball.

Round 3 (67) LB Casey Matthews, Oregon - You don't necessarily have to be a big LB in this defense and I just can't deny the bloodline. Good football instincts.

Round 6 (186) TE Andre Smith, Virginia Tech - Big blocking TE fits the John Fox mold, plus I think his receiving skills weren't used to the fullest in college.

Round 6 (189) RB Derrick Locke, Kentucky - Potential Big play ability, could give offense and special teams a shot of energy.

Round 7 (247) DE Ryan Winterswyk, Boise State - Hard working player in the Ben Garland mold. Hard working, means contributor.

Dareus, Paea and Foster would be great additions to our defense. Matthews gets a lot of hype because of his name, but I don't see the great play. Smith sounds like another Richard Quinn. Locke and Winterswyk would be good additions. Five out of seven ain't bad.

[toothpick]

Patrick Peterson with our 1st pick other than that and not drafting a safety I like the mock. Nice work

[johnlimburg]

I've seen both play, I don't think Paea will be able to get up the field any faster than Dareus will in the NFL. It's just my opinion

I know that is your opinion and thats cool but why would you think that. What about his game would suggest he couldnt be as good of a penetrator at the next level.

For Example: Bowers faced inferior tackles. Relies on his strength and does have much technique.

Paea has a great mix of initial quickness and strength. He uses his hands well. I compare him a bit to fairley actually. He doesnt rely on one area of his game to be successful

[beastlyskronk]

Like I said. I dont think people understand how Paea plays. He IS an up the field penetrator who has amazing initial quickness to get thin and split the gap and get in the backfield.

Dareus as you have just stated is the run clogger who can anchor. He has the best anchor in the draft.

Dareus and Paea are the best complement to each other. You said it in your post that I quoted right here. You want a guy who can get up the field (Paea) and a guy who can clog it up (Dareus).

I've seen both play, I don't think Paea will be able to get up the field any faster than Dareus will in the NFL. It's just my opinion

[johnlimburg]

No I'm saying Dareus and Paea play their respective positions similiarly. A lot of what Paea does is because of his strength, same thing for Dareus. The reason you want one DT that can get up the field quickly and another that can anchor and pretty much hold his ground or get a little push, well it basically creates an uneven pocket which will open blitzing lanes a lot more. I don't think Paea will be able to get up the field any faster than Dareus and it'll just clog everything up. That would be fine if Fox is content to just use the front 4 to rush the passer but I don't think he is. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me but yeah

Like I said. I dont think people understand how Paea plays. He IS an up the field penetrator who has amazing initial quickness to get thin and split the gap and get in the backfield.

Dareus as you have just stated is the run clogger who can anchor. He has the best anchor in the draft.

Dareus and Paea are the best complement to each other. You said it in your post that I quoted right here. You want a guy who can get up the field (Paea) and a guy who can clog it up (Dareus).

[beastlyskronk]

I think everyone doesnt really know how Paea plays. He is a one gap penertrater who gets up the field and gets skinny and splits double teams. He is not a NT only in a 4-3. I beleive he is a lot like fairley. Paea isnt as good against the run as lot of people think. Much like Fairley. Darius on the other hand can play any spot inside. He can play NT or UT. He is great against the run and there is no tape on him to suggest he will be a quick up the field penertrator.

Marcel Dareus and Stephen Paea compliment each other better than Fairley and Paea.

Plus Wilkerson is very overhyped IMO. All measurables and stats. Doesnt impress me all that much really. I like him as a late second early third but not at 36.

No I'm saying Dareus and Paea play their respective positions similiarly. A lot of what Paea does is because of his strength, same thing for Dareus. The reason you want one DT that can get up the field quickly and another that can anchor and pretty much hold his ground or get a little push, well it basically creates an uneven pocket which will open blitzing lanes a lot more. I don't think Paea will be able to get up the field any faster than Dareus and it'll just clog everything up. That would be fine if Fox is content to just use the front 4 to rush the passer but I don't think he is. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me but yeah

[Kansas Bob]

What happens if Carolina fools people and takes Dareus in the first round? It could happen?
Also I would rather take Scott instead of Locke. He is bigger and faster and will probably still be on the board.

[MHS]

From what i have read fox likes to have big Run stuffing DT's in the middle and let the athletic DE's get to the QB. If that is the case then this mock makes sense.

To me there is still some uncertainty on how the 4-3 will be ran. Will it be in 4-3 most of the time or with allen's experience will it change to all different types of formations.

[johnlimburg]

Like japfaff said, Paea and Dareus don't really compliment each other too well. We could reach on McClain and take him to be our UT or if Wilkerson is there we could take him. I like Nate Irving over Casey Matthews too

I think everyone doesnt really know how Paea plays. He is a one gap penertrater who gets up the field and gets skinny and splits double teams. He is not a NT only in a 4-3. I beleive he is a lot like fairley. Paea isnt as good against the run as lot of people think. Much like Fairley. Darius on the other hand can play any spot inside. He can play NT or UT. He is great against the run and there is no tape on him to suggest he will be a quick up the field penertrator.

Marcel Dareus and Stephen Paea compliment each other better than Fairley and Paea.

Plus Wilkerson is very overhyped IMO. All measurables and stats. Doesnt impress me all that much really. I like him as a late second early third but not at 36.

[beastlyskronk]

Like japfaff said, Paea and Dareus don't really compliment each other too well. We could reach on McClain and take him to be our UT or if Wilkerson is there we could take him. I like Nate Irving over Casey Matthews too

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I like the mock....But if Pea is our second round pick...We need to get a compliment to him. I say go with Fairley. dareus and Pea are both run stuffer's. I think fairley would be a better fit since he tends to play a lot more in the opponents backfield. That will also give us some pass rush from the T position

The rush will come from the edge.

[themadfanatic]

If locke last THAT long. Hell be a steal