Flowda's Pre-Draft Mock Draft

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Dowling goes late first to mid 2nd

Ok then scratch that idea. I will keep Gilchrist instead of Keo then.

[BroncosTX77]

Dowling goes late first to mid 2nd

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Where would Dowling go in the draft? The more I think about it, the more I want him so I can convert him to FS. He just jumps out to me a a perfect conversion guy.

So where could we take him so i can adjust my mock a little?

[Ahrum]

Will Marcus Gilchrist be when we pick where I selected Keo? I would rather have him now that I have done a little more homework.

I dno, hard to say. The value is about right, so I'd go ahead and insert him.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Will Marcus Gilchrist be when we pick where I selected Keo? I would rather have him now that I have done a little more homework.

[BroncosTX77]

What else is Belichamp gonna say? lol "Yup, Tom Condon blows and I avoid the players he represents."

I think 5 years of avoiding the [arguably] biggest agent in the NFL speaks for itself.

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TOTALLY DO THIS

Robert Quinn to Houston
Da'Quan Bowers to Minnesota
Prince Amukamara to Detroit

WINWINWINWINWIn

this all the way said so in my first post.

[Ahrum]

I have heard this rumor too, but Belicheat and Kraft both shot this down rather quickly.

What else is Belichamp gonna say? lol "Yup, Tom Condon blows and I avoid the players he represents."

I think 5 years of avoiding the [arguably] biggest agent in the NFL speaks for itself.

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SO with who was left on my board after Washington, who would you take if you were the GM of the Texans?

TOTALLY DO THIS

Robert Quinn to Houston
Da'Quan Bowers to Minnesota
Prince Amukamara to Detroit

WINWINWINWINWIn

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Thats what I thought and Wade came out and said noway. He envisions MArio=Bruce in his defense, strictly DE.

Texans have a lack of LB's. That is what killed them last year ton of injuries and no depth and no pass rush. DL depth is good and CB depth is decent, problem last year was horrible coaching not putting players in best possible position. Texans also have no, zero, zilch, nada Safeties, they will definitely need to grab one, and I feel they will grab a CB/S hybrid with 2nd pick.



I have heard this rumor too, but Belicheat and Kraft both shot this down rather quickly.

SO with who was left on my board after Washington, who would you take if you were the GM of the Texans?

[BroncosTX77]

Jackson wasnt exactly stellar last season. I know its alot of money tied up into one position, but Amukamara is projected to be WAY better than Jackson.

You still have Williams who Im sure will play edge rushing LB.

Thats what I thought and Wade came out and said noway. He envisions MArio=Bruce in his defense, strictly DE.

Texans have a lack of LB's. That is what killed them last year ton of injuries and no depth and no pass rush. DL depth is good and CB depth is decent, problem last year was horrible coaching not putting players in best possible position. Texans also have no, zero, zilch, nada Safeties, they will definitely need to grab one, and I feel they will grab a CB/S hybrid with 2nd pick.

1. It's more my distaste with Bowers than it is my dislike of you picking him. I hate Bowers... I think Turk McBride is a fine backup to VanDen Bosch.

2. Watt's agent is Tom Condon... a pretty big name. He usually represents a lot of highly touted prospects - enough prospects that to have not picked a single one of them in 5 years could be considered "actively avoiding", which is exactly what the Patriots have done. They haven't drafted anyone represented by Condon since he almost screwed Ben Watson and the Pats both out of a deal. Watson ended up firing him to get the deal done.

You deserve some praise for this mock, so enjoy it! It's very good.

I have heard this rumor too, but Belicheat and Kraft both shot this down rather quickly.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

1. It's more my distaste with Bowers than it is my dislike of you picking him. I hate Bowers... I think Turk McBride is a fine backup to VanDen Bosch.

2. Watt's agent is Tom Condon... a pretty big name. He usually represents a lot of highly touted prospects - enough prospects that to have not picked a single one of them in 5 years could be considered "actively avoiding", which is exactly what the Patriots have done. They haven't drafted anyone represented by Condon since he almost screwed Ben Watson and the Pats both out of a deal. Watson ended up firing him to get the deal done.

You deserve some praise for this mock, so enjoy it! It's very good.

Thanks and I was unaware of this stigma placed on his agent. I never really pay attention to agents.

[Ahrum]

Thanks for the input. Now for my comments.

1. What is wrong with Bowers to Detroit? Van Den Bosch is going to be 33 and they could use a younger guy. Bowers was once considered a top pick. He is falling due to injury. If he sits for half a season to get healed he can play in rotation with Van Den Bosch.

2. Why wont NE take Watt? Alot of mocks have them grabbing him.

3. I wouldnt mind taking Gilchrist instead of Keo. I dont know much about him, but Mayock is high on him. I do not know the later round safties or converted CBs.

4. I am very happy that most people like my mock so far. I put alot of time into it, especially the trades. I tried to think of the most realistic partners and values.

1. It's more my distaste with Bowers than it is my dislike of you picking him. I hate Bowers... I think Turk McBride is a fine backup to VanDen Bosch.

2. Watt's agent is Tom Condon... a pretty big name. He usually represents a lot of highly touted prospects - enough prospects that to have not picked a single one of them in 5 years could be considered "actively avoiding", which is exactly what the Patriots have done. They haven't drafted anyone represented by Condon since he almost screwed Ben Watson and the Pats both out of a deal. Watson ended up firing him to get the deal done.

You deserve some praise for this mock, so enjoy it! It's very good.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

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Jackson wasnt exactly stellar last season. I know its alot of money tied up into one position, but Amukamara is projected to be WAY better than Jackson.

You still have Williams who Im sure will play edge rushing LB.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

This is the best mock I've seen with a trade up in it. Akeem Ayers behind Robert Ayers makes for a heavy strong-side... he's also fairly versatile, and I think he'd do well in a mix of Fox's Cover-2/46 and Allen's 3-3-5.

The first 4 picks I absolutely love, but I wouldn't expect us to draft safeties in the later rounds... I expect Marcus Gilchrist to be on our big-board... he's a corner with the instincts and natural ability of a safety, which is right up Fox's alley.

I also much prefer Ayers instead of Miller in our defense... I just wish he was slightly faster... he's good enough to keep up with most TEs, but I'm not sure how well he can keep up with Miller/Gates.

All-in-all, very good mock. I'd be quite happy if this actually happened.

EDIT: on your 1st round mock. Comments on 3 teams I follow/like...

SF: Absolutely love it, but I really doubt PP falls to them at 7. I seriously would love it if he did, though.
Detroit: Hate hate hate the pick. And the problem is, if Tyron Smith is off the board, I fully expect it to be Bowers... urgjoe
New England: They're not picking JJ Watt. You can put that in the bank.

DOUBLE EDIT: I've read the thread, and I'm glad you came around on not putting Woody at SAM... that'd kill us. He's way too small for that.

TRIPLE EDIT: I Was digging around for some reports about Ayers (I haven't really watched UCLA play, nor have I invested time in him...) And I came across this : Compares to: D.J. Williams, Broncos - With excellent size and athleticism, Ayers could excel outside or inside in a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme if he proves to have adequate instincts at the next level. - Rob Rang

Thanks for the input. Now for my comments.

1. What is wrong with Bowers to Detroit? Van Den Bosch is going to be 33 and they could use a younger guy. Bowers was once considered a top pick. He is falling due to injury. If he sits for half a season to get healed he can play in rotation with Van Den Bosch.

2. Why wont NE take Watt? Alot of mocks have them grabbing him.

3. I wouldnt mind taking Gilchrist instead of Keo. I dont know much about him, but Mayock is high on him. I do not know the later round safties or converted CBs.

4. I am very happy that most people like my mock so far. I put alot of time into it, especially the trades. I tried to think of the most realistic partners and values.

[Ahrum]

This is the best mock I've seen with a trade up in it. Akeem Ayers behind Robert Ayers makes for a heavy strong-side... he's also fairly versatile, and I think he'd do well in a mix of Fox's Cover-2/46 and Allen's 3-3-5.

The first 4 picks I absolutely love, but I wouldn't expect us to draft safeties in the later rounds... I expect Marcus Gilchrist to be on our big-board... he's a corner with the instincts and natural ability of a safety, which is right up Fox's alley.

I also much prefer Ayers instead of Miller in our defense... I just wish he was slightly faster... he's good enough to keep up with most TEs, but I'm not sure how well he can keep up with Miller/Gates.

All-in-all, very good mock. I'd be quite happy if this actually happened.

EDIT: on your 1st round mock. Comments on 3 teams I follow/like...

SF: Absolutely love it, but I really doubt PP falls to them at 7. I seriously would love it if he did, though.
Detroit: Hate hate hate the pick. And the problem is, if Tyron Smith is off the board, I fully expect it to be Bowers... urgjoe
New England: They're not picking JJ Watt. You can put that in the bank.

DOUBLE EDIT: I've read the thread, and I'm glad you came around on not putting Woody at SAM... that'd kill us. He's way too small for that.

TRIPLE EDIT: I Was digging around for some reports about Ayers (I haven't really watched UCLA play, nor have I invested time in him...) And I came across this : Compares to: D.J. Williams, Broncos - With excellent size and athleticism, Ayers could excel outside or inside in a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme if he proves to have adequate instincts at the next level. - Rob Rang

[BroncosTX77]

Whats wrong with PA going to Houston? They got torched all season last year in the passing game. PA is a great cover corner and potential shut down guy. I know they are going to a 3-4 look, but why not take a would be top 8 talent at #11 in PA. They could get a decent 34 DE in the 2nd while still getting the 2nd best CB and arguably just up there with PP.

I dont know to many later round safeties or converted CBs. I just know Keo is on the "experts" minds as being a decent SS.

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