Ayers and miller are both better fit in 3-4 and both are alot more natural olb there then any where in a4-3 we need more of a faster smaller SLB.
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View PostAyers and miller are both better fit in 3-4 and both are alot more natural olb there then any where in a4-3 we need more of a faster smaller SLB.Jacksonville Jaguars Broncomania GM:
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View PostAyers and miller are both better fit in 3-4 and both are alot more natural olb there then any where in a4-3 we need more of a faster smaller SLB.
Also what the hell is people talking about this small linebacker crap. If Fox can get a good football player he will not care about size. That just aint how football works. Plus Ayers is plenty fast. Please watch him play.
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Originally posted by dukes88 View PostJust my opinions, that you asked for
Ayers is not Von Miller - le't get that straight right away.
Never said that. He is abetter fit for a 4-3 SAM linebacker though
Miller/Peterson/Dareus are players that we cannot pass on with how bad our D is. How are the all the "bad" teams getting better... Detroit, St. Loius, etc? They are drafting the best players with their picks and they are performing. Show me an example in NFL draft history of a team being able to trade out of 3 different first round picks and collect all of those other picks... We are also hitting the lottery if this pick is under some new rookie cap!
How are Detroit and St Louis getting better. Draft a top 5 QB and focusing on defense as a whole during the draft. Something we havnt done.
Let's now say that what Josh did was smart - we had a franchise QB (Cutler), WR (Marshall), RB (Hillis), and good young TE and we shipped them all away only to draft injury prone offensive players and completely forget about defense. I am not saying I disagree with all of the decisions or picks - but if we would have drafted DL and LB when we had the chance instead of reaching for guys like Smith and then dealing him the next year for nothing we could actually start to see ourselves out of this mess.
What does this have to do with what I said. I said the mabnuvering was smart and that is all. You said we would be laughed at for that specifically and we wouldnt. It would be smart.
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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostCompletely incorrect on Ayers. Like flowdabroncofan said Ayers is a perfect fit for a SAM linebacker spot. Unless in a 3-4 you want a pass rusher who has limited technique.
Also what the hell is people talking about this small linebacker crap. If Fox can get a good football player he will not care about size. That just aint how football works. Plus Ayers is plenty fast. Please watch him play.sigpic
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Postyeah some like 6'3 235-240 who is fast and specializes in coverage. and techniques are easily tought to some one. plus the giants need LB. right now our biggest in is D-line we have a good young group of LB i would like to see. as in welsey woodyard joe may and lee robinson, i would love to see what they are able to do.
Some are acting like he below par talent. He was projected by some to go #12 to minnasota
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he should go to second, if i am giving up a second rounder it is to move down not up. so unless we get lucky and can trade down to like 15-18 then he is worth a look, but right now he probably wont last passed the jets taking there need for a pass rusher. and tkaing that i doubt he will be there for our second if he is i would still look at Austin, Paea, Wilkerson before him. if we go him, it almost looks in my mind ellis is our second second round pick. trading up for him is ludicris thoughsigpic
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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostThoughts in BOLD
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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostWhy not have a 6-3 253 pound linebacker who specializes in coverage already. Can rush the passer from different spots often. Can make plays on the football and be dominant in the run game.
Some are acting like he below par talent. He was projected by some to go #12 to minnasota
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I don't want to project any crazy trades. But even with the current picks, if Ayers falls to the 36th pick, then he is a possibility. I did not like his play from snap to snap, he misses some tackles that make you question his consistency. But he would be a good 2nd round pick because of his versatility. And he can make good plays in coverage and rushing the passer.
He might be able to play any LB position in the 4-3 and stay on the field on 3rd down. He does not have blazing speed but at least he is faster than Mario Haggan. The #2 OLB in the draft might not get past the 1st round, and the Patriots are there waiting with the 33th pick.
Dareus at #2, then Ayers at #36. Sounds good. If Ryan Harris is not part of the future, the Broncos could go OL at #46 and add another DT at #67. Jarvis Jenkins, Kenrick Ellis.sigpic
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Originally posted by Roddoliver View PostI don't want to project any crazy trades. But even with the current picks, if Ayers falls to the 36th pick, then he is a possibility. I did not like his play from snap to snap, he misses some tackles that make you question his consistency. But he would be a good 2nd round pick because of his versatility. And he can make good plays in coverage and rushing the passer.
He might be able to play any LB position in the 4-3 and stay on the field on 3rd down. He does not have blazing speed but at least he is faster than Mario Haggan. The #2 OLB in the draft might not get past the 1st round, and the Patriots are there waiting with the 33th pick.
Dareus at #2, then Ayers at #36. Sounds good. If Ryan Harris is not part of the future, the Broncos could go OL at #46 and add another DT at #67. Jarvis Jenkins, Kenrick Ellis.Jacksonville Jaguars Broncomania GM:
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