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    I'm thinking that unless there's an absolute steal sitting at our first pick in round two, like Luiget or Paea or Ayers, then we trade the pick to one of the quarterback hungry teams that missed out on a round 1 prospect.

    There might be a mad dash for players like Ponder, Malett, Dalton, and maybe even Locker at the top of round 2.

    If this happens, and I could definitely see this possibility, we could stockpile a few picks to move down and take a LB and/or a S and/or an OT.

    That's assuming, of course, that WE don't target a QB at the top of round 2.

  • #2
    I agree to an extent.

    We know we're low on picks.

    Unless there's a player the front office feels we absolutely have to have, we should consider trading if available, including 2A.

    Nothing out of the ordinary from standard operating practice for the NFL, only this time I hope we do a better job of identifying who that 'must have' player is...
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    • #3
      .....And now there's talk of a bidding war at our first pick. If Denver plays their cards right, we could be the beneficiary of multiple bidding wars at the tops of rounds one and two, adding a boatload of picks garnered from all the QB needy teams!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ORANGE*OBSESSION View Post
        .....And now there's talk of a bidding war at our first pick. If Denver plays their cards right, we could be the beneficiary of multiple bidding wars at the tops of rounds one and two, adding a boatload of picks garnered from all the QB needy teams!
        Hell yeh............

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        • #5
          If we trade out of our #2 I'd trade both 2b and 2c a high 2 is worth a high 3,4,5,and 6. Most of my mocks have us doing that but if austin,paea,liuget,ayers,or wilson is there at 36 I'd only trade the other 2 2nds

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          • #6
            If AZ trades the #5 pick and their second rounder for our #2 pick, then we either have a chance at drafting Dareus or Miller, or we trade back again with a team that covets Peterson.

            We either get Dareus/Miller and 3 second round picks, or we draft Wilkerson/Luiget/Ayers/Watt/Jordan in the first round and have 4 second round picks.

            And if we trade pick 2a for a lower second and a third, that gives us a total of 1 pick in the first round, 4 picks in the second round, and two picks in the third round to grab a DE, 2 DTs, 1 S, 2 LBs, and an OT.

            Our draft could look like this:
            1)Corey Luiget, DT
            2a)Martez Wilson, LB
            2b)Rahim Moore, S
            2c) Mason Foster, LB
            2d)Allen Baily, DE
            3a)Kendrick Ellis, DT
            3b)James Brewer, OT
            6a)Mark Herzlich, LB
            6b)Henry Hynoski, FB
            7)Lee Smith, TE

            And you could certainly move players around and substitute names like Stephen Paea, DT, Muhammad wilkerson, DT, Marvin Austin, DT, JJ Watt, DE, Cameron Jordan, DE, Robert Quinn, DE, DaQuan Bowers, DE,Nick Fairly, DT, Phil Taylor, DT, Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Aldon Smith, DE, Quan Sturdivant, LB, Greg Jones, LB, Casey Matthews, LB, Dontay Moch, LB, Kelvin Sheppard, LB, Aaron Williams, S, Quinton Carter, S, DeAndre McDaniel, S,Marcus Cannon, OT, DeMarcus Love, OT, Jason Pinkston, OT, Marcus Gilbert, OT, Joseph Barksdale, OT, Ben Ijalana, OT.....

            My point is, by trading down we have a realistic shot at grabbing 7 or more excellent starters.

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            • #7
              Or trade #2 for #5 and a 2nd
              Then trade 2b for a 3,4,5,6
              Draft
              Marcell dareus DT
              Marvin austin UT
              Martez wilson MLB
              Jordan todman RB
              Kendrick ellis NT
              Joseph barksdale OT
              Byron maxwell FS/CB
              Zach hurd OG
              Darrin walls CB
              Scott lutrus SLB
              Schuylar oordt TE
              Then sign charles johnson/ray edwards and james anderson/justin durant. Sign FB shane bannon as a udfa and we are all set whether we resign harris or not
              Edit: by all set I mean competing for a championship THIS YEAR.
              Last edited by themadfanatic; 04-13-2011, 07:39 AM.

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              • #8
                Not a fan of trading in the second round unless its a offer you cant refuse. Id rather stay put and take bpa on defense, why not stay put and take borderline first round talent instead of trafing back for a bum ..needle in a haystack.

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                • #9
                  This draft doesn't have a bunch of "can't miss" top level talent in it but it does have a lot of quality "good" players. If Denver could trade down from #36 to say #50 and pick up an extra pick or two, they could get two or three good players instead of one.
                  I really don't think Denver is low on talent, I think if everybody can get and stay healthy, adding a few quality players can make a world of difference. BUT I think they should do it through the draft and not so much FA. If another team lets them go, there is probably a reason why!

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                  • #10
                    Only way I can see denver trading down the number 2 pick is if a CBA is reached before the draft and the rookie wage scale is known.

                    I think the only way trading down the number 2 pick is worth if is if we can move down a couple slots and still pickup fairley/daerus/miller.

                    We need an impact pick and that number 2 basically guarantees it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Luckyshot View Post
                      Only way I can see denver trading down the number 2 pick is if a CBA is reached before the draft and the rookie wage scale is known.

                      I think the only way trading down the number 2 pick is worth if is if we can move down a couple slots and still pickup fairley/daerus/miller.

                      We need an impact pick and that number 2 basically guarantees it.
                      Nah this team needs a base of solid players to build on with this draft, then get an impact mike next year when the pickin is good.
                      2012 Mock- Stickin W/ Tebow
                      1- Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue (trade to mid 20's)
                      2- Chase Minnifield, CB, UVA
                      2- Juron Criner, WR, Arizona(acquired in trade down)
                      3- Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
                      4- Julian Miller, DE, WVU
                      5- Vick Ballard, RB, Miss. St.
                      5-Chandler Harnish, QB, NIU

                      Address OLine depth in FA.

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                      • #12
                        2a is perhaps and arguably the best pick we have. Trading it is the worse possible idea.
                        I hate the Defenseless Receiver rule and the fines. Posted since '07. 2011 rule addition :nono: backhand a fool!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Luckyshot View Post
                          Only way I can see denver trading down the number 2 pick is if a CBA is reached before the draft and the rookie wage scale is known.

                          I think the only way trading down the number 2 pick is worth if is if we can move down a couple slots and still pickup fairley/daerus/miller.

                          We need an impact pick and that number 2 basically guarantees it.
                          The rookie scale has already been agreed upon in principal by both sides and WILL be in the new cba and every team already knows this which makes the possibility of trading down skyrocket. There does not have to be a cba in place by draft day because players won't be signed until there is a new cba and like I said they already know the rookie scale will be in it

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by themadfanatic View Post
                            The rookie scale has already been agreed upon in principal by both sides and WILL be in the new cba and every team already knows this which makes the possibility of trading down skyrocket. There does not have to be a cba in place by draft day because players won't be signed until there is a new cba and like I said they already know the rookie scale will be in it
                            I'd think quite the opposite. A rookie pay scale would make a team want to pick as early as possible and or stay put and get the BPA possible, while no longer paying so much or taking such a large financial risk.
                            I hate the Defenseless Receiver rule and the fines. Posted since '07. 2011 rule addition :nono: backhand a fool!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by marcus_miller View Post
                              2a is perhaps and arguably the best pick we have. Trading it is the worse possible idea.
                              It is a good pick - we'd better get better than equal points to trade it.
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