Tackle-Mike Adam-Supp Draft

[Kyousukeneko]

i'd much rather get a vet back up them mike, we already got franklin, i would throw a sixth and be surprised if we got him.

[johnlimburg]

Actually, SoS does have a point here. If I'm a gm, I'm looking for the player whose all life revolves around football. Guys like Quinton Carter "I don't play video games". Guys who don't love the game, become the Chad OchoCincos and Albert Haynesworths of the league. Overpaid divas who expect everything to be given to them.

But, SoS is taking to an extreme, this guy has too much talent and could help our football team too much to simply say no to. At the very least you put a bid up for him. If you get him, great.

He is saying guys who put other stuff above football wouldn't be wanted if he was a HC. Albert Haynsworth and Chad Ocho are extreme cases. The amount of guys in the league who play and do it for a job because they are good at it is not solely for the love of football can play and not be distractions. I guarantee there is hundreds of them. It doesn't make them bad people. Haynsworth and Chad are huge distractions but what does that have to do with Adams wanting some tattoos. He is a 20 year old guy who wanted to get something cool. I don't know how I old you guys are but at that age would you say he doesn't care about football for this specific reason. No.

He is talking about it like he robbed someone

[THEdraftnik]

What the hell does this mean. And plenty of players value off the field stuff. Not every player is all football all the time. Plus you don't know he isn't in love with football.



I think you are very naive the way you think about football players and their love for the game. Everyone is tattooed in the NFL and so many people have other loves off the field they love more than football.



Yes he does make the decisions but he doesn't make the sole decision on who comes in here. Plus this sounds like something Josh Mcdaniels would say and believes. That worked for him didn't it. He built a awful football team thinking like this.

Actually, SoS does have a point here. If I'm a gm, I'm looking for the player whose all life revolves around football. Guys like Quinton Carter "I don't play video games". Guys who don't love the game, become the Chad OchoCincos and Albert Haynesworths of the league. Overpaid divas who expect everything to be given to them.

But, SoS is taking to an extreme, this guy has too much talent and could help our football team too much to simply say no to. At the very least you put a bid up for him. If you get him, great.

[johnlimburg]

If you interpret this event, instead of just stating the facts over and over and over and over and over (and over?) again, you can make the conclusion that this guy values his off the field business more than on the field accomplishments.

What the hell does this mean. And plenty of players value off the field stuff. Not every player is all football all the time. Plus you don't know he isn't in love with football.

I mean, seriously, he sold his stuff for tattoos. I want to be spending my few draft choices on guys who take pride in their accomplishments and value football over things like tattoos.

I think you are very naive the way you think about football players and their love for the game. Everyone is tattooed in the NFL and so many people have other loves off the field they love more than football.

I'm speaking in the point of view of a head coach, here, because at the end of the day, the head coach determines who makes the team, who starts, and effects the outcome of games a hell of a lot more than the GM.

Yes he does make the decisions but he doesn't make the sole decision on who comes in here. Plus this sounds like something Josh Mcdaniels would say and believes. That worked for him didn't it. He built a awful football team thinking like this.

[Puddleglum]

Our run game was bad because they kept moving our linemen around and there was no real consistency with the line. When Beadles moved back to guard, the running game dramatically improved. Also Walton is going to be better this year, Centers always have it hard with their first year in the league. Biggest problem in terms of the rushing game was probably Ryan Harris who didn't play like himself, I'd account that to injuries though. Oh and our blocking scheme really didn't fit the talents of our defense.

I don't see the need to trade Kuper to a zone team, it has already been confirmed that we'll be using a lot of zone blocking this year. Having a talented player like Kuper who also has experience in the system is pretty valuable.

Keep in mind I believe you had 2 rookies on your O-Line last year, that's a big deal (cohesion/trust etc).

While I applaud the OP's willingness to take a flier on a player in the supplemental draft to stiffen arguably the most important unit in football, I cannot say I recommend it. The Chargers have managed to find MANY servicable backups (and starters) in UDFA, and I believe the Broncos can do the same. Remember you're not gearing up for a run this year, time is on your side. For that reason, I don't believe you should use a pick on that young man.

ESPECIALLY given the time the Bronco front office has had time to evaluate which people were not drafted and if they would be a fit for the team. Going to be the most interesting UDFA period in recent history when it happens.

[Touch_30_Down]

Our run game was bad because they kept moving our linemen around and there was no real consistency with the line. When Beadles moved back to guard, the running game dramatically improved. Also Walton is going to be better this year, Centers always have it hard with their first year in the league. Biggest problem in terms of the rushing game was probably Ryan Harris who didn't play like himself, I'd account that to injuries though. Oh and our blocking scheme really didn't fit the talents of our defense.

I don't see the need to trade Kuper to a zone team, it has already been confirmed that we'll be using a lot of zone blocking this year. Having a talented player like Kuper who also has experience in the system is pretty valuable.

[the0rangecrush]

If you interpret this event, instead of just stating the facts over and over and over and over and over (and over?) again, you can make the conclusion that this guy values his off the field business more than on the field accomplishments.

I mean, seriously, he sold his stuff for tattoos. I want to be spending my few draft choices on guys who take pride in their accomplishments and value football over things like tattoos.

I'm speaking in the point of view of a head coach, here, because at the end of the day, the head coach determines who makes the team, who starts, and effects the outcome of games a hell of a lot more than the GM.

So players who use their money earned from bonuses to get tattoos are the same way, or how about those depth guys that sell their championship rings because of money. We hear athletes say it all the time I don't care about accolades, all they want is the win so when one sells an object everyone freaks out

[SoundsOfSuccess]

His own stuff. His rings and football gear. I beleive.





Really. Man you must be a saint. There would not be a NFL if GM's built a team by this logic. If this is considered a character issue and a reason people do not want him on the team, then all I can say is wow. So wanting some money is not having a love for football. Was it a crime. No it broke a NCAA violation but he is hardly a criminal or bad character guy.

If you interpret this event, instead of just stating the facts over and over and over and over and over (and over?) again, you can make the conclusion that this guy values his off the field business more than on the field accomplishments.

I mean, seriously, he sold his stuff for tattoos. I want to be spending my few draft choices on guys who take pride in their accomplishments and value football over things like tattoos.

I'm speaking in the point of view of a head coach, here, because at the end of the day, the head coach determines who makes the team, who starts, and effects the outcome of games a hell of a lot more than the GM.

[johnlimburg]

Nah. You can look for depth at OT without throwing a draft pick. The team will already give a 2012 pick to Cleveland to seal the Brady Quinn trade.

Depending on playing time and it will be a late round pick regardless.

I know that Fox sees Franklin as the RT, but he might become the LG soon. And Beadles will play RT. If I remember correctly, Beadles played 3 seasons at LT for Utah. And he has 1 season of pro football under his belt. He is a technical, smart lineman. Franklin is more physical, aggressive, with that OG mentality.

That would silly IMO. Beadles has struggled a lot at tackle and played really well at Guard. He was a huge reason why got some running success late in the season. Beadles is not a Tackle IMO.

Since Clady and Franklin are currently set as the OTs, with Beadles as a versatile piece, the team is not in emergency mode. We can even develop an undrafted free agent for depth. Davis Mims from Virginia Union, for example. 6'8 330 with freakish 36 7/8 inch arms.

He would be a decent pickup but he is not at the talent level of Adams but wouldn't require a draft pick. However I would rather bring in Tony Washington. Tony Washington deserves his shot.

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[THEdraftnik]

Nah. You can look for depth at OT without throwing a draft pick. The team will already give a 2012 pick to Cleveland to seal the Brady Quinn trade.

I know that Fox sees Franklin as the RT, but he might become the LG soon. And Beadles will play RT. If I remember correctly, Beadles played 3 seasons at LT for Utah. And he has 1 season of pro football under his belt. He is a technical, smart lineman. Franklin is more physical, aggressive, with that OG mentality.

Since Clady and Franklin are currently set as the OTs, with Beadles as a versatile piece, the team is not in emergency mode. We can even develop an undrafted free agent for depth. Davis Mims from Virginia Union, for example. 6'8 330 with freakish 36 7/8 inch arms.

I do like Mims, I drafted him in the gm game

[-Rod-]

Nah. You can look for depth at OT without throwing a draft pick. The team will already give a 2012 pick to Cleveland to seal the Brady Quinn trade.

I know that Fox sees Franklin as the RT, but he might become the LG soon. And Beadles will play RT. If I remember correctly, Beadles played 3 seasons at LT for Utah. And he has 1 season of pro football under his belt. He is a technical, smart lineman. Franklin is more physical, aggressive, with that OG mentality.

Since Clady and Franklin are currently set as the OTs, with Beadles as a versatile piece, the team is not in emergency mode. We can even develop an undrafted free agent for depth. Davis Mims from Virginia Union, for example. 6'8 330 with freakish 36 7/8 inch arms.

[Kyousukeneko]

I agree with you, at worst we get good depth. The only person who deserves a starting spot on the line right now is Clady, as much as I love Kupes you can't deny our run game was atrocious last year, I say let everyone battle it out and best guy wins. I think Kupes would definitely win though, and will be a great mentor to the younger guys.

i am the honly one high on beadles coming in as our LG next season, i thought his play there really stuck out.

[the0rangecrush]

And the plot thickens, Adams was arrested for drug paraphernalia and has had multiple injuries missing games, he also needed surgery befor his freshman season as well, and was suspended 2 games for undisclosed reasons

[the0rangecrush]

Kuper shouldn't go anywhere and is right in his home at RG, he just signed a long term deal and I think the brass agrees.

As far as Adams goes Character issues are over rated most of the time. If the guy can play at a high level, it's really the only thing that should matter. It seems to me guys with attitude are little trains that can grind and dig in their heels to get up that hill. Guys with super duper character seem weak minded. To a certain limit.

I'm extremely excited about Franklin and can't wait to see him man handle LDEs. I don't know much about Adams but, as John says depth can't hurt and we have been hurt by injury in the past. "Sophomore Slumps" / 2nd year injuries soon to come. Why, IDK! It just seems a lot of 2nd year players have bad years as far as injury is concerned.

I think this Adams guy should definitely be given a look see.

I agree with you, at worst we get good depth. The only person who deserves a starting spot on the line right now is Clady, as much as I love Kupes you can't deny our run game was atrocious last year, I say let everyone battle it out and best guy wins. I think Kupes would definitely win though, and will be a great mentor to the younger guys.

[marcus_miller]

Kuper shouldn't go anywhere and is right in his home at RG, he just signed a long term deal and I think the brass agrees.

As far as Adams goes Character issues are over rated most of the time. If the guy can play at a high level, it's really the only thing that should matter. It seems to me guys with attitude are little trains that can grind and dig in their heels to get up that hill. Guys with super duper character seem weak minded. To a certain limit.

I'm extremely excited about Franklin and can't wait to see him man handle LDEs. I don't know much about Adams but, as John says depth can't hurt and we have been hurt by injury in the past. "Sophomore Slumps" / 2nd year injuries soon to come. Why, IDK! It just seems a lot of 2nd year players have bad years as far as injury is concerned.

I think this Adams guy should definitely be given a look see.