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  • Kansas Bob
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    Switch Adcock with Forston and you might have a chance there. Adcock hasn't impressed me anyway, I had rather have a good C than him.

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  • Broncos Bassist
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    Originally posted by broncooojohnson View Post
    He's good. In his class Knile Davis is my favorite, but after him I would like Miller or David Wilson from VT
    Sorry for derailing this argument over the relative merits of Jeffery and Blackmon (either of whom I'd be stoked to have...), but I'd be totally stunned if Knile Davis declares for this year's draft. He's not going to get any playing time this year and (even without medical redshirt) he's got another year of eligibility. His stock would tank if he came out now. After next year, if he stays healthy and looks like he did in 2010, he's a top-5 talent.

    Edit: top 5 running back, not necessarily top-5 overall. I'm not predicting anything like that.

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  • shawinkerpoppin
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    I really hope barkley is not who the broncos draft. I really really really hope he aint. If they want a QB and its not luck then trade down a bit and see if foles or RG3 falls and add some extra draft picks in the process. Also I think marc Tyler goes undrafted. I like the other picks. Im thinking couples or Kirkpatrick get drafted by denver. Couples more so becuase of dooms pec injury creeping back.
    Last edited by shawinkerpoppin; 09-27-2011, 06:04 AM.

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  • johnlimburg
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    Pretty much agree with all of this although I wouldn't even call Walton solid.

    I would probably spend money on a FA C if a good one is out there.

    I don't want to get a mid round C who's a project.
    Yeah well I would even consider spending a first round pick on a center probably not this year but in the 2013 Draft I would. Peter Konz is a hell of a center. I would love him.

    I think this is rebuilding team and we need two drafts to get this team set.
    I think in the next two drafts we can setup both lines on both the defense and offense with better starters and better depth.

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  • bronx_2003
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    Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
    Kuper has been our best O lineman thus for. If anyone on the interior needs to be replaced it is JD Walton. Everyone keeps ignoring it but I have been saying this forever. We need a dominant center. He is not. He is a solid guy but nothing special. Weak in the run game.

    On fixing the O line I have the idea that most do. Move Orlando Franklin to left guard and draft a Right Tackle. My favorite guy is Mike Adams. He is a well rounded guy. Better pass blocker than run blocker but is very good in the run game. Especially in short yardage. He comes off the ball low and gets a good push. That way you can push Beadles to the bench and have him as the backup for every position across the line. That is a valuable piece to have.

    I think the two Mcdaniels draft picks on the interior are on the hot seat as starters by the end of the season. I think both would be good backups. But I want upgrades over both. I like the potential of Orlando Franklin. I love Ryan Clady and Chris Kuper.

    I still think this O Line is 2 players away from having elite potential. A starting Center and Right Tackle.

    Right now I like:

    Clady-----Franklin-----(Draft Pick)-----Kuper-----(Draft Pick)
    Clark-----Beadles--------Walton------Beadles-----Beadles

    Hopefully in the next two years we get our future Right Tackle and Center inside the first 3 Rounds.
    Pretty much agree with all of this although I wouldn't even call Walton solid.

    I would probably spend money on a FA C if a good one is out there.

    I don't want to get a mid round C who's a project.

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  • johnlimburg
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    from right to left with this draft. i kinda wonder if kuper could play C, but beadles is the better OG and best interior linemen we have currently.
    Kuper has been our best O lineman thus for. If anyone on the interior needs to be replaced it is JD Walton. Everyone keeps ignoring it but I have been saying this forever. We need a dominant center. He is not. He is a solid guy but nothing special. Weak in the run game.

    On fixing the O line I have the idea that most do. Move Orlando Franklin to left guard and draft a Right Tackle. My favorite guy is Mike Adams. He is a well rounded guy. Better pass blocker than run blocker but is very good in the run game. Especially in short yardage. He comes off the ball low and gets a good push. That way you can push Beadles to the bench and have him as the backup for every position across the line. That is a valuable piece to have.

    I think the two Mcdaniels draft picks on the interior are on the hot seat as starters by the end of the season. I think both would be good backups. But I want upgrades over both. I like the potential of Orlando Franklin. I love Ryan Clady and Chris Kuper.

    I still think this O Line is 2 players away from having elite potential. A starting Center and Right Tackle.

    Right now I like:

    Clady-----Franklin-----(Draft Pick)-----Kuper-----(Draft Pick)
    Clark-----Beadles--------Walton------Beadles-----Beadles

    Hopefully in the next two years we get our future Right Tackle and Center inside the first 3 Rounds.

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  • bronx_2003
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    from right to left with this draft. i kinda wonder if kuper could play C, but beadles is the better OG and best interior linemen we have currently.
    I don't mind Beadles because he shows potential. He is inconsistent but thats fine.

    Kuper is a very good guard. He has also been inconsistant but has been between our 2 weakest areas.

    I can't see Franklin as a RT, he struggled pass protecting in college, he should be moved inside.

    I think Walton is a huge weak link. He gets overpowered constantly and really hinders the running game.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Project KSL View Post
    The offense he plays in is a big reason his stats are like that. He's throwing the ball A TON.

    He's a product of that insane passing attack offense.

    I like him, but those stats mean nothing. Look at Zac Robinson's stats at OSU. They were out of control. I don't think he got drafted.
    seventh rounder

    i wouldn't mind foles, it would mean trading down which i like. my best case play out is trading down and getting RG3, but i wouldn't mind trading down to the mid/late first and geting foles.
    Last edited by Kyousukeneko; 09-27-2011, 12:38 AM.

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  • shawinkerpoppin
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    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    I've been on the Foles bandwagon for a long time now (AZ alum myself ) People who compare him to Orton or think he has done nothing have no idea what they are talking about and probably have never seen him play. This kid has serious talent and will be talked about as one of the top 2 or 3 QBs to come out next year.
    I think they compare Barkley to orton not foles.

    I liked him after what I seen in the Stanford game. I wanna see more of him. I hope that if QB is a need for the broncos that either him or RG3 is drafted by the broncos.

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by BroncoStampede View Post
    Im not a draft expert but...

    Nick Foles the QB out of Arizona is a gamer, and I havent seen or heard many people talking about him outside of the Tucson area. All of us Wildcats alumni and fans are really high on this kid.

    He's definentely a gamer and can put the team on his shoulders and carry them to wins. He can make all the throws. Granted he's not as good as Luck or as hyped, but the kid can play.

    Plus hes a monster, 6'5'' and 240 lbs. Hes tough and is a senior this season. Could be a good pick up for us since we need depth next year anyway.

    Just wanted to throw that out there and see what you guys think.

    His game against Oregon will be on tomorrow night on ESPN2 at 7:15 local time which is 8:15 Denver time. Check it out!

    Here's his profile from ESPN
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...803/nick-foles
    I've been on the Foles bandwagon for a long time now (AZ alum myself ) People who compare him to Orton or think he has done nothing have no idea what they are talking about and probably have never seen him play. This kid has serious talent and will be talked about as one of the top 2 or 3 QBs to come out next year.

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  • Joshecalpoly
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    Foles IMO in the past 3 years has done the most with the least amount of talent around him. Still if we dont get Luck Ild rather stick with Tebow and try and build a team around him

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Project KSL View Post
    Honestly though, I expect some really bad team to trade back into the 1st to get him.

    Like if Luck, Barkley, and Jones all go top like....6. And then a team picking in the 7-10 range misses on those 3, they'll take an elite player at that pick and then attempt to trade back into the 1st for RG3. Or....they attempt to trade down from the 7-10 range to gather
    more picks.
    RG3 is an elite player.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    from right to left with this draft. i kinda wonder if kuper could play C, but beadles is the better OG and best interior linemen we have currently.

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  • Broncosinindy
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    I like the positions you went for. Not a big fan of berkley though.

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  • Project KSL
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    Honestly though, I expect some really bad team to trade back into the 1st to get him.

    Like if Luck, Barkley, and Jones all go top like....6. And then a team picking in the 7-10 range misses on those 3, they'll take an elite player at that pick and then attempt to trade back into the 1st for RG3. Or....they attempt to trade down from the 7-10 range to gather
    more picks.

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