QB-Chandler Harnish

[johnlimburg]

The other day I was just looking through a list of Quarterbacks who will be eligible for the 2012 Draft. I was looking for a smaller school guy who doesn't get much recognition but maybe their is something there. So I seen Chandler Harnish from Northern Illinois. Started to do a bit of research on this guy and from what I have seen I like. A lot.

He is very accurate with the football and throws a pretty ball. His ball placement is great especially on deep routes. He has a hell of an arm and has great mobility. He can run as well.

He plays with a fire and is very energetic. Sure he plays against bad competition but his arm and some of the throws he makes are just great.

Not sure where he is projected right now. Probably 5th-7th round but I can see him improving his stock a tone. He is a player I am looking forward to watching for the remainder of the year.

[one5beast]

Just watched his highlights and he kinda reminds me of Jake Locker

[johnlimburg]

I cannot watch videos right now due to connection problems but does the video show him in a good light. Cause some videos don't do players justice.

[Jay2Javon4life]

I have a ton of buddies at NIU and only live about 30 min away from the campus. I have watched them play 2 or 3 times so far this year and he has impressed me with his mobility and command of the offense. I would like him as a late round project pickup at qb. The only knock on him is the level of competition they play in the mac conference. He is a very good guy from everything I have heard as well. And Niu has produced a few solid nfl players over the last few years.

[johnlimburg]

I have a ton of buddies at NIU and only live about 30 min away from the campus. I have watched them play 2 or 3 times so far this year and he has impressed me with his mobility and command of the offense. I would like him as a late round project pickup at qb. The only knock on him is the level of competition they play in the mac conference. He is a very good guy from everything I have heard as well. And Niu has produced a few solid nfl players over the last few years.

The thing IMO which gives him a tone of his potential is his arm. He throws a pretty ball. He has a great arm and would be a very good project. Having an arm cannot be faked.

[Joshecalpoly]

The thing IMO which gives him a tone of his potential is his arm. He throws a pretty ball. He has a great arm and would be a very good project. Having an arm cannot be faked.

If thats the case then why not Case Keenum a 4th rounder with one amazing arm, that is if he measures up properly.

Heck Brandon Weeden is all arm, the guy cant make a signal call or a read to save his life but he can chuck it, yeah hes 29 but that shouldnt stop us lol

[johnlimburg]

If thats the case then why not Case Keenum a 4th rounder with one amazing arm.

Why not. Haven't watched him play but if he has an amzing arm why not. But I like Chandler. Are you telling me Chandler doesn't have a great arm ?

[Joshecalpoly]

Why not. Haven't watched him play but if he has an amzing arm why not. But I like Chandler. Are you telling me Chandler doesn't have a great arm ?

Strong enough but I wouldnt say its what seperates him from others in the draft, Tebow had a stronger arm with his bad mechanics.

His poise on 3rd down is better then any QB ive seen in years, thats what makes him interesting

Last year his accuracy when behind was 6th best (granted Luck was #1 along with 4 other QB's eligible this year)

[johnlimburg]

Strong enough but I wouldnt say its what seperates him from others in the draft, Tebow had a stronger arm with his bad mechanics.

His poise on 3rd down is better then any QB ive seen in years, thats what makes him interesting

Tim Tebow doesn't have a stronger arm. He doesn't throw the ball as well. Tim has an average arm and IMO is what limits his potential to be anything more than an average NFL quarterback.

[Joshecalpoly]

Tim Tebow doesn't have a stronger arm. He doesn't throw the ball as well. Tim has an average arm and IMO is what limits his potential to be anything more than an average NFL quarterback.

Believe it or not he threw it farther down the field with more velocity and more accuracy when he does it side arm. According to most analysts ive seen Tebows problems arent throwing it deep its throwing it short. He actually has a high accuracy of 15+ yards but anything more he has a tendency to be off. What limits him is the desire to go deep and the desire to wait for routes to progress which you cant do in the NFL. Hes so busy waiting for his deep receivers to get open he has pressure and has to get rid of it.

Tebows arm isnt really amazing but its not as bad you might think heck nearly 1/2 of his completions were deep (47% to be exact) and had 9.2 yards per attempt or more every year in his college career (the most Harnish has done is 8.9 and thats with better accuracy). If he could make quick reads held be fine but the guys intelligence is in question IMHO. Although now that he throws it differently its sadly not as good but still I think when he learns to throw properly he will probably have the same zip, but honestly were better off not trying to change it and go Kosar style.

[johnlimburg]

Believe it or not he threw it farther down the field with more velocity and more accuracy when he does it side arm.

And that means what.

According to most analysts ive seen Tebows problems arent throwing it deep its throwing it short. He actually has a high accuracy of 15+ yards but anything more he has a tendency to be off. What limits him is the desire to go deep and the desire to wait for routes to progress which you cant do in the NFL. Hes so busy waiting for his deep receivers to get open he has pressure and has to get rid of it.

It is him throwing the ball in general. His accuracy. His ability to stand in the pocket. His ability to go through his progressions. Deep throws, short throws. He just doesn't have a great arm.

Tebows arm isnt really amazing but its not as bad you might think heck nearly 1/2 of his completions were deep (47% to be exact) and had 9.2 yards per attempt or more every year in his college career.

College QB play and NFL QB play is different.

If he could make quick reads held be fine but the guys intelligence is in question IMHO. Although now that he throws it differently its sadly not as good but still I think when he learns to throw properly he will probably have the same zip, but honestly were better off not trying to change it and go Kosar style.

Yeh I agree that Tebow lacks the mental game as a QB also but that can be developed.

I agree also that Tebow's throwing motion should be left.

[Joshecalpoly]

And that means what.



It is him throwing the ball in general. His accuracy. His ability to stand in the pocket. His ability to go through his progressions. Deep throws, short throws. He just doesn't have a great arm.



College QB play and NFL QB play is different.



Yeh I agree that Tebow lacks the mental game as a QB also but that can be developed.

I agree also that Tebow's throwing motion should be left.

See by great arm I thought you meant ability to throw it deep not accuracy, in that case yeah Harnish has an arm and Tebows is bad (especially with the new mechanics) Yeah although they say even in the pros hes like 75% from 15+ out still and 25% from close range when he started its not something ild be proud of.

I think the only offense outside of the spread Tebow would be good at is the Mike Martz offense, if it didnt include screens, lol. However, we dont have the O-line to perform that and Tebow actually looks like he takes longer then Cutler at throwing. You can get away with bootlegs fairly easily in a spread which is when Tebow and Cutler throw their best.

[Ohenhen12345]

Would rather keep Tebow.

[johnlimburg]

See by great arm I thought you meant ability to throw it deep not accuracy, in that case yeah Harnish has an arm and Tebows is bad (especially with the new mechanics) Yeah although they say even in the pros hes like 75% from 15+ out still and 25% from close range when he started its not something ild be proud of.

By great arm I just mean everything assosicated with throwing the ball.

What do you mean by 75% from 15+ and 25% from close range ?

I think the only offense outside of the spread Tebow would be good at is the Mike Martz offense, if it didnt include screens, lol. However, we dont have the O-line to perform that and Tebow actually looks like he takes longer then Cutler at throwing. You can get away with bootlegs fairly easily in a spread which is when Tebow and Cutler throw their best.

Tebow is good at screens. It was like his whole game in the final 3 of 2010.

[teutonic7777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFB5m6Jvbc

I like this guy too. I may be wrong but he looks better than Landry Jones. He seems to be more accurate. Great throws on run. If we cant get Luck then Harnish looks great. I wonder if he would go as high as a 2nd rounder once April comes around. Good job johnlimburg for catching this pick.

I am a supporter of getting Luck, but if Harnish still looks good by the end of the season and shows promise, I think the idea of Richardson (1st) and Harnish would be smart. Though I wonder how much Richardson will drop. I mean, I wonder if we could get a top corner then trade back into the high 1st and grab Richardson ( like Mark Ingram). Then grab Harnish in 2nd or 3rd if he projects that high.

This is why I love draft time!