BroncosTX77 Midseason NFL Mock

[Charlie Brown]

Wow great post

Did you read anything I said? I'm a massive Texas homer and I'll straight up say RG3 has a better shot at the NFL than VY ever did. He's a completely different player. You're obviously stuck in 2008 when RG3 was really a running QB, this year, as I said, he's rushed for just over 300 yards through what... like 7 games? That's about 45 rushing yards a game. If you think that deems him a Vince Young clone then you're just being purposefully ignorant.

Good, not interested in him.

Let him go to Oakland.

[Hoserman117]

Of course he has a better chance than Vince Young, hindsight is always 20/20

It has nothing to do with hindsight, coming out of college I didn't think VY had much of a chance. I was really rooting for him, but I was expecting him to fail.

[SoundsOfSuccess]

Florida > Baylor

And congrats, you've shown me Tebow's stats, which are pretty much equivalent to RG3's stats through 7 games this year.

And I know you can't be this dumb. If you watch Tebow, you KNOW his issues mechanically. He struggles throwing the football, I love Tebow and I'll admit it. RG3 does not.

I'm saying that Tim Tebow a known dual threat quarterback, put up the same stats and dominated the NCAA just like your boy Griffin, with incredibly similar stats in their senior years.

The only difference is this-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=cSBK19ZJ0ME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLFOLH3AXu0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39cqr5xEJA

Edit-- You also have to consider that Griffin does not currently run a pro offense, so its Tebow all over again in that aspect

[Ohenhen12345]

Don't see it happening. It is either Luck or Barkley and maybe Landry Jones in the first round.

[Ohenhen12345]

Griffin reminds me of Akili Smith.

[Hoserman117]

I'm saying that Tim Tebow a known dual threat quarterback, put up the same stats and dominated the NCAA just like your boy Griffin, with incredibly similar stats in their senior years.

The only difference is this-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=cSBK19ZJ0ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLFOLH3AXu0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39cqr5xEJA

Edit-- You also have to consider that Griffin does not currently run a pro offense, so its Tebow all over again in that aspect

Cam didn't run a pro style offense either, it's about the ability to make NFL throws. A lot of the guys who are successful in the NFL right now didn't run pro-style offense in college. Griffin can make all the NFL throws, Tebow didn't show that ability in college, and it's showing up now that he's in the NFL.

I'm not saying I think RG3 is gonna be a great QB, but thinking he's on the same level as Tebow as a passer, or that he's just a Vince Young clone, is ignorance.

[Matymaddog]

Again, Cam is the exception, not the rule. And Cam did struggle with his accuracy in college.

[SoundsOfSuccess]

Cam didn't run a pro style offense either, it's about the ability to make NFL throws. A lot of the guys who are successful in the NFL right now didn't run pro-style offense in college. Griffin can make all the NFL throws, Tebow didn't show that ability in college, and it's showing up now that he's in the NFL.

I'm not saying I think RG3 is gonna be a great QB, but thinking he's on the same level as Tebow as a passer, or that he's just a Vince Young clone, is ignorance.

Nowhere am I saying I don't think he'll be good, etc, I'm saying drafting him will put them in a situation they've already done and been in with Tebow, and obviously McCoy is incapable of giving a QB easy throws. I could see Griffin do very well in a place like Washington, maybe even here, but if he were to succeed here, Tebow should succeed here.

[Kyousukeneko]

tebow holding th ball to long not setting his feet still needs work with his release.

[Hoserman117]

Good, not interested in him.

Let him go to Oakland.

What a great poster you are, thanks for the input :thumb:

Nowhere am I saying I don't think he'll be good, etc, I'm saying drafting him will put them in a situation they've already done and been in with Tebow, and obviously McCoy is incapable of giving a QB easy throws. I could see Griffin do very well in a place like Washington, maybe even here, but if he were to succeed here, Tebow should succeed here.

I don't see how it's the same situation as Tebow at all. Tebow doesn't know how to consistently set his feet, anticipate a throw, and stick it exactly where he wants it. I see RG3 do that 15 times a game. The situations are night and day IMO.

[Charlie Brown]

What a great poster you are, thanks for the input :thumb:

Thank you, I stated I am not interested in him. I am still not interested in him. Even though you tried to convince me otherwise, I still feel the same.

He would be a horrible mistake for the Browns. They are better off building a surrounding cast for McCoy. Just as I explained in another thread, trading away draft selections to move up to take Luck is a mistake as well.

[JayJack]

Man JJ, you have been sounding very down the past couple of weeks. Silver lining to every dark cloud....just sayin.

Yeah Bud, there really isn't much to be happy about around these parts. I would love to do a Mock, but I think it's nearly impossible to figure out EFX. Plus Fox has taken the fun out of it for me.

After the Lockout, Fox did an interview and he said something about because of the lack of contact practices we're allowed to have, we will be looking to target more SEC players because they are closer to "NFL Ready". Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing, but I like to scout other teams outside of the SEC, and I love scouting some of the DII prospects. Plus my favorite rds is 4th - 7th.

I may try to do one at the end of the season, but as for right now, i'll just continue to look at other posters mock. I'll tell you this much, i'll be happier if we sign QB Matt Flynn in the offseason

[Nick]

BroncosTX77, You fit a lot of needs for teams. While I think some people might be a little lower/higher... Very good Mock, :thumb:You will always have different point of views. I specially love the RG3 selection for the Broncos and if we drafted behind seahawks, I would not be suprised if Broncos moved up past to secure "their" guy.

You got me excited to do a mock now.

[Nick]

Just more than a little ignorant IMO.

Funny how you can weed out the people that have no clue and people that have some type of understanding by mentioning RG3.

[Matymaddog]

I think it's more than hilarious that we just got to be half way into the season and only two starts for Tebow and you got posters around here with RGIII avatars and signatures. Absolutely absurd. Whatttt a joke