Why does everyone want to draft a qb Rd 1 or 2?

[ironfootball39]

Our qb stats have been poor but our line and recievers are arguable worse.

Thirteen sacks in two weeks! And I watched the game, Tim was not holding the ball for 5seconds like people use for an excuse. Franklin is out of position. 75% of this years sacks come from the right side. We clearly need a tackle. I remember when we ordered a guy name clady when we needed a DT. His rookie year we gave up .5 sacks! We have a chance to secure the other side with a year full of T talent!

Secondly our recieving core is quite literally dropping the ball. We are 16th in dropped passes (falling 8) from 24. 3rd worst after ind and mia in the last three weeks.
YAC - Again, we arent getting any help at third to last. So not much help from our recievers.
A guy named eddie royal used to be a sure thing with only one! drop. He ties for twelve worst in 2011.

A new qb drafted rounds 1-3 wont help these stats. I would go to the lengths and say it would seal the deal on a repeat of this year.

Fix the team where it NEEDS to be fixed. Secure whatever qbs protection for the long term. Help his progression by eliminating the sacks now. Why put ANOTHER qb through the same issues.

[JayJack]

13 sacks in 2 weeks, what do you expect when TT holds the ball to long, defenses are stacking the box with 8 and 9 players, blitzing TT from every direction possible. I'm not saying we have a Pro Bowl O-Line, but how many players can they block at one time.

[bronx_2003]

You make some interesting points but it all starts with QB.

Once Fox and Elway get their QB they can built the system around him and we can move forward. There is young talent on this O but they need a chance to spread the field and have the O opened up.

[Sync]

The simple truth is that you do not (often) contend in this league until you secure the QB position. We have not done so. We need to do so. It's really that simple. I defy you to find a more valuable individual position on the team.

Is it annoying to hear nothing but QB this, QB that? Yes. Will it be justified as long as all our QBs appear to be awful? Yes.
I wanted TT to be the answer so we could think about addressing other positions. At the moment, I am not convinced.

[InsaneBlaze23]

The simple truth is that you do not (often) contend in this league until you secure the QB position. We have not done so. We need to do so. It's really that simple. I defy you to find a more valuable individual position on the team.

Is it annoying to hear nothing but QB this, QB that? Yes. Will it be justified as long as all our QBs appear to be awful? Yes.

13 sacks in 2 weeks, what do you expect when TT holds the ball to long, defenses are stacking the box with 8 and 9 players, blitzing TT from every direction possible. I'm not saying we have a Pro Bowl O-Line, but how many players can they block at one time.

I agree with these.

Our OL isn't as bad as people think it is or fans make it out to seem. Orlando Franklin is the real issue on the line, and that is probably because he is playing the wrong position. Unlike Zane, he isn't versatile. With that Beadles himself tend to struggle, and would be better at tackle than guard. We would do better if we moved Orlando inside to play LG and move Zane to RT.

But even with this, we have zero depth at the position, so when these guys get tired, the back-ups are trash.

QB is the most important position in the NFL, we don't have a single good QB at the moment. With question marks on Brady Quinn and Adam Weber.
Tebow holds the ball way too long, is very inaccurate, has a run first mentality, horrid footwork, bad throwing motion. Pretty much everything that could be a issue with a QB, Tebow has those issues.

We have really good receivers, but people don't wanna blame Tebow, so they say it's the wide outs fault.

If you watched any of the games, Eric Decker is a beast, and when he is always open or in single coverage, Tim completely throws the ball over him.

Eddie Royal is a Percy Havin/Steve Smith type of WR, he needs to be used as such. In which he is not, so he is under preforming.

Thomas just got back from injury, it is unclear if he is healthy or not, during his time playing, he has had some drops that was completely easy to make, and there is no excuse for him dropping the passes he dropped. But like Decker, he too has been overthrown.

These 3 are our main wide outs, and they are good. Other than Matt Willis, the depth really isn't there, and Thomas is suppose to be the big guy, his injuries are showing otherwise.

As for why threads are being made about drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd.
It's because the FO said not to rule out drafting a QB in the 1st round, and the simple fact that it's very likely that we will.

[ERoyal248]

Well, to be honest, this team isn't getting back into playoff contention or making the playoffs again until we have a QB. Yes, we have other flaws like CB, OL, DT among others but if you have that QB, it can cover a lot of those holes.

Whether that's Tebow, signing Matt Flynn, or drafting one in the upcoming draft.

When you look at the top teams throughout the league, the one constant they have is a good QB.

I hope Tebow improves, but if he doesn't, we're probably gonna have a new QB here next year.

And our OL isn't near as bad as the last 2 games, but teams are bringing the house on Tebow, and until he proves he can beat them from the pocket, that's not gonna change.

We have plenty of talent at the WR/TE spot but we need a QB to get them the ball. Case in point, if our QB's keep struggling, we'll have someone knew at helm in 2012.

[Broncos-R-Great]

Prior to this year Orton looked like a serviceable stop gap, and Tebow looked like he had potential. But, both have been terrible under our new coaching staff, neither is a good fit for the offense we run, and the coaches we have.

I would think Fox would prefer to have a FA QB instead of drafting one early. Matt Flynn would top off the list, but he would likely want a Kolb type contract, Jason Campbell is another option, and possibly Brian Hoyer (he's a restricted free agent though).

On the opposite side, I'm sure Elway would like to draft a QB, Luck and Barkley would likely be his two choices, and both would be great options for this team. We likely won't get Luck, so it will come down to whether we're in a position to get Barkley or not.

Even if Tebow shows improvement the next few weeks, everybody should fully expect this team to take a long look at all the QB options available this offseason.

[Bronco1969]

Our qb stats have been poor but our line and recievers are arguable worse.

Thirteen sacks in two weeks! And I watched the game, Tim was not holding the ball for 5seconds like people use for an excuse. Franklin is out of position. 75% of this years sacks come from the right side. We clearly need a tackle. I remember when we ordered a guy name clady when we needed a DT. His rookie year we gave up .5 sacks! We have a chance to secure the other side with a year full of T talent!

Secondly our recieving core is quite literally dropping the ball. We are 16th in dropped passes (falling 8) from 24. 3rd worst after ind and mia in the last three weeks.
YAC - Again, we arent getting any help at third to last. So not much help from our recievers.
A guy named eddie royal used to be a sure thing with only one! drop. He ties for twelve worst in 2011.

A new qb drafted rounds 1-3 wont help these stats. I would go to the lengths and say it would seal the deal on a repeat of this year.

Fix the team where it NEEDS to be fixed. Secure whatever qbs protection for the long term. Help his progression by eliminating the sacks now. Why put ANOTHER qb through the same issues.

Bcuz all of the current QBs that we have suck!!!!!!!!!!

[shawinkerpoppin]

Becuase tebow has been playing pretty poorly. The blame gets spread but its pretty obvious tebow seems to be the source of the struggle. Outside of 5 minutes he hasn't shown anything worth keeping him around for. He cant be productive until teams take there foot off the gas. All in all tebow has to show he is worth building around. Majority of the QBs in the drafts look like less of projects than tebow far less. I really feel denver needs to find a stop gap and draft a QB. That gives us something now and later to work with and something worth building on.

The receiving talent is actually not bad. Like I said tebow needs to execute the plays better. Steve smith was fading out of existence becuase he didnt have a QB that could execute the plays and now he does and he is on pace for a career year. Randy moss in oakland and Randy moss with the pats look at the difference. Look at Marshall. QBs and WRs go hand in hand and a WR can only be as good as the QB and vice versa.

As for the line really Franklin is struggling. He was doing well for a while but now he is struggling. He is out of position. He should be playing. Denver does need a tackle that is actually a tackle not a guard that could play tackle at the next level or a tackle that should move to guard at the next level.

But really tebow has to go if he keeps this up so far he doesnt look like he is worth building on.

[Broncos-R-Great]

Well, to be honest, this team isn't getting back into playoff contention or making the playoffs again until we have a QB. Yes, we have other flaws like CB, OL, DT among others but if you have that QB, it can cover a lot of those holes.

Whether that's Tebow, signing Matt Flynn, or drafting one in the upcoming draft.

When you look at the top teams throughout the league, the one constant they have is a good QB.

I hope Tebow improves, but if he doesn't, we're probably gonna have a new QB here next year.

And our OL isn't near as bad as the last 2 games, but teams are bringing the house on Tebow, and until he proves he can beat them from the pocket, that's not gonna change.

We have plenty of talent at the WR/TE spot but we need a QB to get them the ball. Case in point, if our QB's keep struggling, we'll have someone knew at helm in 2012.

I think this is the teams plan for the offseason at the QB position:

1. If we have the 1st overall pick, draft Luck
2. If we don't have the 1st overall, try to sign Flynn
3. If we can't sign Flynn, draft Barkley

[ERoyal248]

I think this is the teams plan for the offseason at the QB position:

1. If we have the 1st overall pick, draft Luck
2. If we don't have the 1st overall, try to sign Flynn
3. If we can't sign Flynn, draft Barkley

1- No doubt but i doubt we're bad enough for Luck especially since Miami would have the tiebreaker.

2- Depends where we're picking at, and how much he wants.

3- Barkley or Jones would be my guess.

[Broncos-R-Great]

1- No doubt but i doubt we're bad enough for Luck especially since Miami would have the tiebreaker.

2- Depends where we're picking at, and how much he wants.

3- Barkley or Jones would be my guess.

The FO could very well be looking at Jones, but IMO they should avoid any of the QBs from the spread offenses. Its not that Jones won't be a good QB, its just I don't think our coaches have the ability to develop a QB like him. We will need a pro-ready QB, somebody who will require as little coaching as possible.

Both Orton and Tebow operate the best in a spread offense, and have both looked terrible under this coaching staff.

[ERoyal248]

The FO could very well be looking at Jones, but IMO they should avoid any of the QBs from the spread offenses. Its not that Jones won't be a good QB, its just I don't think our coaches have the ability to develop a QB like him. We will need a pro-ready QB, somebody who will require as little coaching as possible.

Both Orton and Tebow operate the best in a spread offense, and have both looked terrible under this coaching staff.

Yeah, i think we'd take Barkley if he was available, and he may not even come out.

[broncojav82]

So.. If we do get flynn, u guys think we'll draft O line?

[InsaneBlaze23]

So.. If we do get flynn, u guys think we'll draft O line?

I think if we get Flynn, the draft will be mostly defense with the only offense being a running back and a tackle.

I also don't rule out us still drafting a QB in the 4th or 5th round even if we do sign Flynn.