Top 20 Mock Draft.

[ERoyal248]

1. Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford.
2. Rams: Matt Kalil, OT, OT, USC.
3. Vikings: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU.
4. Brown: Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor.
5. Bucs: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State.
6. Redskins: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa.
7. Jaguars: Quentin Coples, DE, UNC.
8. Dolphins: Alshon Jeffrey, WR, South Carolina.
9. Panthers: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Bama.
10. Bills: Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.
11. Chiefs: David DeCastro, G, Stanford.
12. Seahawks: Devon Still, DT, Penn State.
13. Cardinals: Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
14. Cowboys: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska.
15. Eagles: Donta Hightower, ILB, Bama.
16. Jets: Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Bama.
17. Bengals: Trent Richardson, RB, Bama.
18. Chargers: Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC.
19. Bears: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame.
20. Titans: Janoris Jenkins, CB, Northern Alabama.

[Charlie Brown]

Robert Griffin would be a gigantic mistake.

The Browns do not have an offensive line. The Browns do not have any recievers worth a darn. The Browns do not have a running game to take pressure off of a quarterback. The Browns defense allows teams to run at will against them.

So, how do you fix all that? According to your mock, you draft a quarterback. Drafting a quarterback is ignoring the problem. Drafting a quarterback ignores all of those other needs. If that draft were to happen, Griffin would have no recievers, no offensive line, no running back, and a defense that adds further weight on his shoulders because they fail to stop teams.

Instead of drafting a quarterback, you should be thinking. Why hasn't McCoy done well in Cleveland? The answer: Because he gets no help.

Drafting a quarterback this year, means that next year they have to draft a quarterback again, because Griffin will fail as well. Then, another quarterback because that quarterback will fail. Instead of drafting quarterbacks, why not address the offensive line, defense, wide receivers, and running backs?

Nobody seems to understand how horrible this selection would be for the Browns. It would be like a Broncos mock with the Broncos drafting .... something they don't need. Like, say, a linebacker or defensive lineman - to replace Von Miller or to replace Dumerville.

None of you would like that mock, I'm sure. Because it replaces a player that doesn't need replacing. Or, perhaps one where the Broncos draft a running back to replace McGahee, he did very well.

The Browns QB gets no help, no support from the other positions. So, what is your answer? Replace him with another player that won't get any support from the other positions. Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. So, let me ask, when have the Browns (since returning) decided to build support around a quarterback? ONE time, and that was when they had Winslow and Edwards - who were supposed to support Jeff Garcia. Of course, that failed. But since then? Nope, no support for the QB. Even before then, Couch had a coach/GM that ignored the offensive line and dumped him in favor of Garcia because Garcia was more "mobile" and didn't have to have an offensive line. You know how that turned out. How many QB's have started for the Browns in the 11 or so years since they returned - 10. How about not getting yet ANOTHER quarterback?

[CanDB]

So who you picking at 21? If that's where we end up......not trying to be a downer, but just in case we lose.

[ERoyal248]

So who you picking at 21? If that's where we end up......not trying to be a downer, but just in case we lose.

Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State.

[KWHIT97]

Robert Griffin would be a gigantic mistake.

The Browns do not have an offensive line. The Browns do not have any recievers worth a darn. The Browns do not have a running game to take pressure off of a quarterback. The Browns defense allows teams to run at will against them.

So, how do you fix all that? According to your mock, you draft a quarterback. Drafting a quarterback is ignoring the problem. Drafting a quarterback ignores all of those other needs. If that draft were to happen, Griffin would have no recievers, no offensive line, no running back, and a defense that adds further weight on his shoulders because they fail to stop teams.

Instead of drafting a quarterback, you should be thinking. Why hasn't McCoy done well in Cleveland? The answer: Because he gets no help.

Drafting a quarterback this year, means that next year they have to draft a quarterback again, because Griffin will fail as well. Then, another quarterback because that quarterback will fail. Instead of drafting quarterbacks, why not address the offensive line, defense, wide receivers, and running backs?

Nobody seems to understand how horrible this selection would be for the Browns. It would be like a Broncos mock with the Broncos drafting .... something they don't need. Like, say, a linebacker or defensive lineman - to replace Von Miller or to replace Dumerville.

None of you would like that mock, I'm sure. Because it replaces a player that doesn't need replacing. Or, perhaps one where the Broncos draft a running back to replace McGahee, he did very well.

The Browns QB gets no help, no support from the other positions. So, what is your answer? Replace him with another player that won't get any support from the other positions. Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. So, let me ask, when have the Browns (since returning) decided to build support around a quarterback? ONE time, and that was when they had Winslow and Edwards - who were supposed to support Jeff Garcia. Of course, that failed. But since then? Nope, no support for the QB. Even before then, Couch had a coach/GM that ignored the offensive line and dumped him in favor of Garcia because Garcia was more "mobile" and didn't have to have an offensive line. You know how that turned out. How many QB's have started for the Browns in the 11 or so years since they returned - 10. How about not getting yet ANOTHER quarterback?

Agreed, I think Blackmon has got to be the pick.

[coloradomedic]

Robert Griffin would be a gigantic mistake.

The Browns do not have an offensive line. The Browns do not have any recievers worth a darn. The Browns do not have a running game to take pressure off of a quarterback. The Browns defense allows teams to run at will against them.

So, how do you fix all that? According to your mock, you draft a quarterback. Drafting a quarterback is ignoring the problem. Drafting a quarterback ignores all of those other needs.

So you pass up a franchise QB because you're weak in other areas also? I doubt that too many GM's would agree with you. If you can get a franchise QB, you get a franchise QB and build around him. The Colts had nothing when they drafted Manning. You think that anyone in that organization would not draft him all over again?

RG3 may or may not turn out to be a franchise QB, but if the Browns FO thinks he is, they'd be stupid to pass him up. Good mock BTW Royal.

[DenverBlood]

I don't understand why people on these boards keep projecting Trent Richardson in the late teens. Do you guys even watch college football. Every expert has him top 10 and he should go top 5. And before you look at my location and call me a homer, I hate Alabama. I am an Auburn fan. But TR is going top 5. Most likely to the Browns in place of that RG3 projection. But I could also see about 5 other teams ahead of your projection taking him. Dolphins could definitely use him. Let's not kid ourselves about Bush being the long term #1 down there. I also think the Chiefs and Seattle would take him but that he won't even be available by the time they pick.

[Amari24]

I don't understand why people on these boards keep projecting Trent Richardson in the late teens. Do you guys even watch college football. Every expert has him top 10 and he should go top 5. And before you look at my location and call me a homer, I hate Alabama. I am an Auburn fan. But TR is going top 5. Most likely to the Browns in place of that RG3 projection. But I could also see about 5 other teams ahead of your projection taking him. Dolphins could definitely use him. Let's not kid ourselves about Bush being the long term #1 down there. I also think the Chiefs and Seattle would take him but that he won't even be available by the time they pick.

Why would the Dolphins take him? Didn't they draft Daniel Thomas to be their RB of the future?

I don't see Cleveland taking him over Blackmon or Claiborne either.

[the0rangecrush]

I don't understand why people on these boards keep projecting Trent Richardson in the late teens. Do you guys even watch college football. Every expert has him top 10 and he should go top 5. And before you look at my location and call me a homer, I hate Alabama. I am an Auburn fan. But TR is going top 5. Most likely to the Browns in place of that RG3 projection. But I could also see about 5 other teams ahead of your projection taking him. Dolphins could definitely use him. Let's not kid ourselves about Bush being the long term #1 down there. I also think the Chiefs and Seattle would take him but that he won't even be available by the time they pick.

RBs are a dime a dozen, with the emergence of late round RBs he will fall. Besides he's not better than Ingram coming out and a he went in the 20s.

[ERoyal248]

I don't understand why people on these boards keep projecting Trent Richardson in the late teens. Do you guys even watch college football. Every expert has him top 10 and he should go top 5. And before you look at my location and call me a homer, I hate Alabama. I am an Auburn fan. But TR is going top 5. Most likely to the Browns in place of that RG3 projection. But I could also see about 5 other teams ahead of your projection taking him. Dolphins could definitely use him. Let's not kid ourselves about Bush being the long term #1 down there. I also think the Chiefs and Seattle would take him but that he won't even be available by the time they pick.

Top 5, i doubt it.

Seattle has Lynch, unless they don't re-sign him.

MAYBE KC, but they have Charles, and McCluster, they could use some OL upgrades or other spots.

Dolphins just drafted Daniel Thomas in the 2nd round last year.

Besides, you can find RB's in the later rounds.

See: Ray Rice, LeSean McCoy, Arian Foster, Ben Tate, James Starks, DeMarco Murray, LeGarrete Blount among others.

For the record, i think Richardson is going to be a stud at the next level.

[DenverBlood]

RBs are a dime a dozen, with the emergence of late round RBs he will fall. Besides he's not better than Ingram coming out and a he went in the 20s.

That is where you are dead wrong. Rb's like him are not a dime a dozen. And he is a much more versatile powerful back than Ingram was. Once again if you just looked at stats without actually watching the games then I guess you wouldn't know this. Anyone who has watched both play knows TR will be a better pro back than Ingram. I guarantee he goes top 10. He is a once in a generation RB just like Luck is considered a once in a generation QB.

[DenverBlood]

Top 5, i doubt it.

Seattle has Lynch, unless they don't re-sign him.

MAYBE KC, but they have Charles, and McCluster, they could use some OL upgrades or other spots.

Dolphins just drafted Daniel Thomas in the 2nd round last year.

Apparently you guys have never heard of drafting the best available player. Wether it's the strongest team need or not someone will take him in the top 10 because he will be the best available player on the board. Daniel Thomas really? How did that pan out for them this year? A whopping 581 yards on 3.5 yards per carry? What a beast. Makes total senese to pass on TR for those kind of numbers.

[the0rangecrush]

That is where you are dead wrong. Rb's like him are not a dime a dozen. And he is a much more versatile powerful back than Ingram was. Once again if you just looked at stats without actually watching the games then I guess you wouldn't know this. Anyone who has watched both play knows TR will be a better pro back than Ingram. I guarantee he goes top 10. He is a once in a generation RB just like Luck is considered a once in a generation QB.

No sir you are wrong, running backs like AP are once in a generation RBs and Richardson is not on that level. Ingram was amazing at breaking tackles and receiving out of the backfield he was better than Richardson at that. He's not a top 10 pick he will go top 20 however due to the combine hype he'll get.

[DenverBlood]

Why would the Dolphins take him? Didn't they draft Daniel Thomas to be their RB of the future?

I don't see Cleveland taking him over Blackmon or Claiborne either.

Blackmon is a valid reason to pass on TR for the Browns though. However as Charlie Brown pointed out it would not make sense for the pick to be RG3. TR or Blackmon would go a long way to helping out McCoy progress and prove he can still be a good NFL QB.

[DenverBlood]

No sir you are wrong, running backs like AP are once in a generation RBs and Richardson is not on that level. Ingram was amazing at breaking tackles and receiving out of the backfield he was better than Richardson at that. He's not a top 10 pick he will go top 20 however due to the combine hype he'll get.

Lol you are the only person who believes that. When Ingram was at Alabama they used TR to catch screens out of the backfield. Why? Because he is faster, and more dangerous in the open field. He broke way more tackles than Ingram. The only reason Ingram won the heisman is because he didn't have to go against top level QB's like Richardson had to this year. He is also on AP's level I gaurantee it. Just wait, first he will be a top 10 pick, then he will be a better pro back than Ingram.