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  • 25th Draft pick history and what they said

    2011

    Seattle James Carpenter OG Alabama

    What he brings: Carpenter has above-average athleticism and is light on his feet, and show active hands in his pass sets and recovers when they are knocked down. He is a bit of a waist-bender who will have some trouble with speed off the edge and is likely better suited to play on the inside. He has enough power to get movement in the run game but needs to play with better pad level, but overall his versatility to play inside or at right tackle is likely what made him so intriguing at this point.

    2010

    Denver (from Baltimore) Tim Tebow QB Florida

    What he brings: This is a stretch. Tebow is a long way from developing into a functional NFL quarterback, and he might never become one. We have concerns about his footwork and elongated delivery, and his struggles at the Senior Bowl only magnified those issues. He has reworked his delivery, but has had only a few weeks to make those changes. However, he brings intangibles that set him apart from almost any other player in this draft, and if he doesn't work out as a quarterback he showed at the combine that he has enough athleticism, determination and toughness to become an H-back and work as a signal-caller in short-yardage and Wildcat situations. Still, this was a surprising pick.

    2009

    Miami Vontae Davis CB Illinois

    Davis is the best pure cover corner in his class. He's fluid changing directions, shows great burst coming out of his cuts and is fast enough to run with wideouts downfield. Davis is more than a one-dimensional player, too. He's a playmaker and can defend the run when he puts his mind to it. So why didn't he come off the board earlier? There are questions about his work ethic and teams were likely wondering if he would to play to his ability.

    2008

    Dallas (From Seahawks) Mike Jenkins CB South Florida

    Jenkins doesn't have a great deal of upper-body strength and struggles to reroute receivers at the line of scrimmage. You'd also like to see him capitalize on more opportunities to make big plays. That said, he has the potential to develop excellent man-to-man cover skills because he opens his hips well and is a quick, fast athlete. There's also a lot to like about his versatility; he can line up at safety and can make an impact as a kick returner.


    2007

    Carolina (from N.Y. Jets) Jon Beason LB Miami (FL)

    Beason is an excellent value at this point in the first round and he is more than capable of pushing Na'il Diggs for playing time on the weak side. The Panthers will likely work on his cover skills but he has a great bend of instincts, quickness and tenacity. He has adequate size and the frame to get even bigger.

    2006

    Pittsburgh (from N.Y. Giants) Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State

    Pittsburgh might have given up too much to get it done, but the Super Bowl champions have filled one of their most pressing need by selecting arguably the best receiver in this year's draft.

    2005

    Washington (from Denver) Jason Campbell QB Auburn

    When the Redskins traded into the first round earlier in the week, many observers dismissed the notion they were targeting Campbell. But having landed CB Carlos Rogers at No. 9, Washington could afford to pick a QB who might take a couple of years to fully develop

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    I just saw all of this on Espn and thought it was pretty intresting to look at what teams have picked at 25 the last few years.

    Thought I would share.

  • #2
    Not a bad company. Just goes to show that with the right scouting, you can definitely find Pro Bowl/Elite talent all throughout the draft.

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    • #3
      Nice list, not bad for a # like 25. I especially like the QB we drafted out of Flordia. What was his name again?
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      • #4
        Interesting John Fox picked the best player of his regime at pick 25. Yes, Beason is better than Peppers, IMO.

        Regardless, even if you disagree with that, he drafted his second best player at this spot.

        They do say Zach Brown is comparable to Jon Beason...

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        • #5
          What position would Zach Brown play on this team ?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by johnlimburg View Post
            What position would Zach Brown play on this team ?
            IMO, he'd be a great fit to play strongside backer in Denver's seemingly constantly used nickel package, and would also be completely capable at weakside backer in the 43, possibly sliding DJ to MLB when the traditional 43 is utilized.

            Just another weapon for the defense.

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            • #7
              If you would have left 2005 off, this list would look a lot better.
              Denver Broncos GM
              Originally posted by Mosk
              Joey Bosa ~ Jason Spriggs ~ Darian Thompson ~ Nick Vannett ~ Paul Perkins ~ Dan Vitale

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
                IMO, he'd be a great fit to play strongside backer in Denver's seemingly constantly used nickel package, and would also be completely capable at weakside backer in the 43, possibly sliding DJ to MLB when the traditional 43 is utilized.

                Just another weapon for the defense.
                Well I don't like that idea. DJ just had the best year of his career and should not be moved again. If any thing is done we should draft a MLB. Not another outside linebacker.

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                • #9
                  It may be easier to find a dynamic player in the Top 10, but if you scout good enough, you can find a great player at any pick in the draft. Plus, don't forget we drafted Al Wilson with the 31st pick in 1999. That guy had a pretty decent career, right?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
                    Interesting John Fox picked the best player of his regime at pick 25. Yes, Beason is better than Peppers, IMO.

                    Regardless, even if you disagree with that, he drafted his second best player at this spot.

                    They do say Zach Brown is comparable to Jon Beason...
                    I've thought about this. Beason was drafted as an outside linebacker but moved to middle.

                    I was wondering if Zach Brown would be able to move MLB. I've read that he's a "freak". Very athletic.

                    We would have some very athletic and fast linebacking group.

                    Von-Brown-DJ. With Haggan-Irving-Woody. As back ups. Like Allen said he wants a very fast and disruptive playmakers. And then signing Jason Jones would be even more awesome.
                    Last edited by one5beast; 01-19-2012, 06:06 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by one5beast View Post
                      I've thought about this. Beason was drafted as an outside linebacker but moved to middle.

                      I was wondering if Zach Brown would be able to move MLB. I've read that he's a "freak". Very athletic.

                      We would have some very athletic and fast linebacking group.

                      Von-Brown-DJ. With Haggan-Irving-Woody. As back ups. Like Allen said he wants a very fast and disruptive playmakers. And then signing Jason Jones would be even more awesome.
                      Brown can't shed blocks and his former teammates have said he is immature.

                      Those are not traits that you want from your Mike backer.
                      Denver Broncos GM
                      Originally posted by Mosk
                      Joey Bosa ~ Jason Spriggs ~ Darian Thompson ~ Nick Vannett ~ Paul Perkins ~ Dan Vitale

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                      • #12
                        I like Brown a hell of a lot more than Burfict or Hightower or Kuechly for us. I think his best fit is definitely the WILL linebacker but his instincts are pretty good and he's athletic enough to be solid in coverage/be a sideline to sideline backer. It isn't even a huge deal for me that he can't shed blocks because that is something that can be taught and he can still be a really good MLB without that. But my big problem with him is his intangibles, I don't even care that he has some red flags but the guy isn't a leader, you need that from your MLB. It's funny because all those others guys have this quality but there is something in their skill set that makes them less ideal, here you have a guy who can probably play the MLB position with decent success but he doesn't have the intangibles for the position. It's for that reason I'd still rate Irving as a better prospect than him too. He's not a perfect prospect and he doesn't do anything exceptionally well other than his great instincts but there really aren't holes in his game, I love that about him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Touch_30_Down View Post
                          I like Brown a hell of a lot more than Burfict or Hightower or Kuechly for us. I think his best fit is definitely the WILL linebacker but his instincts are pretty good and he's athletic enough to be solid in coverage/be a sideline to sideline backer. It isn't even a huge deal for me that he can't shed blocks because that is something that can be taught and he can still be a really good MLB without that. But my big problem with him is his intangibles, I don't even care that he has some red flags but the guy isn't a leader, you need that from your MLB. It's funny because all those others guys have this quality but there is something in their skill set that makes them less ideal, here you have a guy who can probably play the MLB position with decent success but he doesn't have the intangibles for the position. It's for that reason I'd still rate Irving as a better prospect than him too. He's not a perfect prospect and he doesn't do anything exceptionally well other than his great instincts but there really aren't holes in his game, I love that about him.
                          Why move DJ again. Why ? If any line backer spot is a need it is MLB. Burfict, Hightower and Kuechly are all far better options for a MLB spot and no way do you want to draft another smaller outside linebacker who struggles to disengage. We are weak against the run on the edges. Why add to that.

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                          • #14
                            Where did I say I wanted to move DJ?
                            All I said was that Zach could play MLB but his best fit is probably WILL linebacker as it also allows him to blitz more and use his athleticism to be a chase and tackle backer as opposed to a guy who drops into coverage and has to read/react to plays which he is good at but not exceptional at.

                            I've stated multiple times that DJ shouldn't be moved. He's playing well at the WILL position and he has always played well there, we saw how he played at MIKE backer and it was pretty bad.

                            Drafting a middle linebacker this year is not going to work because the draft really isn't a good draft for guys that would fit our system. I'd say that we have a guy on our team who can step up into the position now that he's had a full year to learn and he's a guy who is a better prospect than any of the 4-3 MLB prospects this year.

                            I don't think we should draft a linebacker but if you put a gun to my head with that #25 pick I rather have Brown over Burfict or Hightower. I'd probably still have him over Kuechly just because of his relatively low ceiling but that's sort of debateble to me.

                            But to be clear I want to bring in a veteran middle linebacker that could step in if needed and serves as mentor to Irving, not another young guy. We're fine at the WILL/SAM spot for now.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Touch_30_Down View Post
                              Where did I say I wanted to move DJ?
                              All I said was that Zach could play MLB but his best fit is probably WILL linebacker as it also allows him to blitz more and use his athleticism to be a chase and tackle backer as opposed to a guy who drops into coverage and has to read/react to plays which he is good at but not exceptional at.
                              Well when you said at WILL it would mean moving DJ. That would be terrible. He will get eaten up at MLB. he will get murdered in there.

                              I've stated multiple times that DJ shouldn't be moved. He's playing well at the WILL position and he has always played well there, we saw how he played at MIKE backer and it was pretty bad.

                              Drafting a middle linebacker this year is not going to work because the draft really isn't a good draft for guys that would fit our system. I'd say that we have a guy on our team who can step up into the position now that he's had a full year to learn and he's a guy who is a better prospect than any of the 4-3 MLB prospects this year.
                              Who doesn't fit our system. Burfict would be perfect for us. Extremly physical. He has good range and is a play maker. Irving is a decent prospect but in no way is he a better prospect than either Kuecly and Burfict.

                              I don't think we should draft a linebacker but if you put a gun to my head with that #25 pick I rather have Brown over Burfict or Hightower. I'd probably still have him over Kuechly just because of his relatively low ceiling but that's sort of debateble to me.
                              I wouldn't. So you prefer Brown at MIKE than any of these other guys you just mentioned. Okay.

                              But to be clear I want to bring in a veteran middle linebacker that could step in if needed and serves as mentor to Irving, not another young guy. We're fine at the WILL/SAM spot for now.
                              Yeh them too outside spots are good

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