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    Dear Dennis,

    I'm not going to beat around the bush here so I'm going to start with this. For the love of god take Andre Goodman out as our #2 CB. He is not a cover corner, he is awful. Andre Goodman can not tackle worth a lick as he should be able to do in his position (see Champ and all his open-field tackles). He gets burned and exploited every game; such as in the MINN game he got torched by Harvin and Ponder over and over...then dare I even bring up the Patriots playoff game. Point is the guy gives up the big play; I will not take away the fact that he is a ball hawk (which gives him use), but he should not be #2.

    So here we go with the draft; lets get us a stud to play opposite Champ. Bailey doesn't have many big years left as CB and we need his experience desperately to mentor a new guy for the spot. I know we have the likes of Cassius Vaughn, Chris Harris, and Thompson so maybe with them all healthy this year we will not have to draft and/or acquire one from FA. This would be great; even if this is the case this guy (Andre Goodman) CAN NOT be our ever-down DB....when was the last time we even seen this guy execute a successful blitz? His limitations are endless and for those that will point out his INT's this year I will point out way more big plays that he blew coverage on. To be honest I would gladly take 2 big plays given up in a season over 2 INTS.

    Goodman needs to realize that 21 points in blown coverages is not justified by a pick-6 and an INT....last I checked 21>7...Again I loved his pick to seal the game for us in Minnesota but he gave up waaaaaay more than he produced for this team that game.

    So Allen do us all a big favor; look in the mirror, take a deep breath and go tell Andre he just got dropped to Nickel/Dime duty, because he is the most exploited defender on our team and the entire league knows it.

    If you keep him, you rotate him to Nick/Dime...if you feel comfortable enough about our draft and the health of our newer guys then pull the trigger and try to get some value out of him, because I'm going to throw-up if I watch another year where he blows coverage on 7+ 30 yard TD passes.

    Thats my two-cents, thoughts?
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    What Minn game were you watching? Goody did not give up a TD in that game or have a pick 6.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
      What Minn game were you watching? Goody did not give up a TD in that game or have a pick 6.

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      I really hope you're joking MHS, He had his pick-6 against Sanchez (Jets) and had a game winning catch to put us in "POSITION" to win the game against Minnesota, and yes, Goodman blew two 50+ yd TD passes to Harvin. Look it up
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Brakshow View Post
        I really hope you're joking MHS, He had his pick-6 against Sanchez (Jets) and had a game winning catch to put us in "POSITION" to win the game against Minnesota, and yes, Goodman blew two 50+ yd TD passes to Harvin. Look it up
        He was not covering Harvin in that game...Champ gave one up to Harvin tho, maybe we need to dump him. Champ gave one up to Percy and I believe DJ was on him on the other. Rudolf caught one on Carter...but no TDs on Goody.

        Goodman drew Devin Aromashodu in coverage and while he did not give up a TD he did give up a few catches, was not one of his better games. . Some of thos catches were on slants into the saftey, Goody did his job.

        Yes Goody had a pick 6 but not in Minn game My question to you then, what game did Goody lose for us...since he won the Jets game and sealed Minn?

        Everyone attacks Goody and it is sad because he had a pretty good year.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
          He was not covering Harvin in that game...Champ gave one up to Harvin tho, maybe we need to dump him. Champ gave one up to Percy and I believe DJ was on him on the other. Rudolf caught one on Carter...but no TDs on Goody.

          Goodman drew Devin Aromashodu in coverage and while he did not give up a TD he did give up a few catches, was not one of his better games. Yes Goody had a pick 6 but not in Minn game. Some of thos catches were on slants into the saftey, Goody did his job.

          My question to you then, what game did Goody lose for us...since he won the Jets game and sealed Minn?
          Fine MHS; ur lucky I cant sleep. Please quit saying that I said he had a pick-6 in the MINN game though because he didn't. If you read what I said, I was talking about his bad plays in the two games listed 21>2INTS pick-6. Anyway, let me prove you wrong....gimme some time I'm tired
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          • #6
            I will play too

            Raiders loss: Campbell had 105 yards passing...can't blame Goody
            Tenn loss: Horrible game by Goody, but Orton's 2 INT the bigger factor.
            GB: Everyone on D to blame
            SD: I say this one on Goody
            Detroit: No
            NE: No, the TEs killed us.
            Buffalo: No Tebow killed us
            KC: No
            NE again: No, TEs again
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            • #7
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6PhMyB44k

              @1:05Big TD #1 Goodman get completely shut-down by a WR for 40 yds? It looks like Goody doesn't even make an effort to get over and make a tackle.

              @1:50 Same thing, Goody playing way too deep and doesn't make an effort to run up to make a play letting him basically walk in for a TD.

              That was his give-up first mentality on display during Minnesota

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daN5f8L-haE

              @:30 We see Goodman not trying a bit and giving up a TD to NE

              @1:02 Heres Goody giving Branch like 5 feet of seperation for a 40 yard TD

              @1:30 Here is Goody again not sticking with his man and giving up another TD

              That was the Patriot playoff game

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N322GD5_B9U

              @1:10 we have Goodman completely blowing a route to give Ochocinco his only TD of the year

              That was the first Patriot game

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUwtKZ6uzVg

              @:05 Remember when I said Goody can't tackle? Nuff said

              @:47 Another TERRIBLE tackle by AG

              This has both our first game VS Raiders and Bengals


              I could go on and on throughout the years of this same half-hearted play. I don't honestly think hes as bad as he shows on the field. He just doesn't care when hes out there, and you can see it. I want 100% from everyone, this dude is tossing in 32%. I'm not wasting anymore time pasting vids tho, they're everywhere...watch any game
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              • #8
                Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
                I will play too

                Raiders loss: Campbell had 105 yards passing...can't blame Goody
                Tenn loss: Horrible game by Goody, but Orton's 2 INT the bigger factor.
                GB: Everyone on D to blame
                SD: I say this one on Goody
                Detroit: No
                NE: No, the TEs killed us.
                Buffalo: No Tebow killed us
                KC: No
                NE again: No, TEs again
                Let me make this straight MHS. No ONE person loses and/or wins a game for an entire team. The fact I'm making is we have to FIX loose ends to put a better product on the field. AG is a huge liability for this defense when he becomes more of a detriment than a playmaker; sorry the end doesnt justify the means.

                EDIT: TE's are a terrible excuse considering they are part of the game, thus are an element that cornerbacks need to be able to dispose of if need be.
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                • #9
                  This drives me crazy. Sure, Goody isn't as good as Champ, but honestly, who is?

                  It's not Goody's fault he's juxtaposed with Roland. If you look at league stats for starting CB's he rates well, statistically, and he'd probably be the #1 guy on about 5-7 teams in the league right now, and the #2 guy on about 20 teams.

                  Sure, he has bad plays now and then, and yeah, he has a bad game here and there, but so does Champ.

                  The bottom line is that despite his faults, no rookie that we can draft this year (without moving up) is going to be an upgrade over Goodman.

                  That's the honest to goodness truth.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brakshow View Post
                    Let me make this straight MHS. No ONE person loses and/or wins a game for an entire team. The fact I'm making is we have to FIX loose ends to put a better product on the field. AG is a huge liability for this defense when he becomes more of a detriment than a playmaker; sorry the end doesnt justify the means.

                    EDIT: TE's are a terrible excuse considering they are part of the game, thus are an element that cornerbacks need to be able to dispose of if need be.
                    There are WAY bigger liabilities out on the D side of the ball than Goody, and maybe Chris Harris can supplant him next year as #2, but there's not a rookie out there that won't look like a chump next to the Champ.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jetrazor74 View Post
                      This drives me crazy. Sure, Goody isn't as good as Champ, but honestly, who is?

                      It's not Goody's fault he's juxtaposed with Roland. If you look at league stats for starting CB's he rates well, statistically, and he'd probably be the #1 guy on about 5-7 teams in the league right now, and the #2 guy on about 20 teams.

                      Sure, he has bad plays now and then, and yeah, he has a bad game here and there, but so does Champ.

                      The bottom line is that despite his faults, no rookie that we can draft this year (without moving up) is going to be an upgrade over Goodman.

                      That's the honest to goodness truth.
                      Which is why I'm not outright suggesting we get rid of him JR; I'd like him put in more Nickel/Dime situations so he can use his talents as a ball-hawk because he is great at reading a play and jumping a route. My point is simply that he is not a cover-corner and far from a shutdown cover-corner.

                      I'm not naive enough to think a rookie can step in and do better than him right off the bat, even though it is possible. I just want him played situationally. Those clips there are just big plays he messed up on, if you had full game film and broke down every little 3rd and long he blows it would be mind-boggling because the dude can't tackle. I've watched him for a long time and he wasn't always this way. It's only been the last few years that his lack of drive has really gotten under my skin...hes not finishing plays and looks like hes lost a step. I don't think you could argue against that
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jetrazor74 View Post
                        There are WAY bigger liabilities out on the D side of the ball than Goody, and maybe Chris Harris can supplant him next year as #2, but there's not a rookie out there that won't look like a chump next to the Champ.
                        That is exactly why I included Chris Harris in my opinion for what could be changed to enhance the position. You're right though, no rookie is going to come in and make a first ballot HOF CB look like a chump and Goodman unless he has support can not do his job alone on his side of the field period. All OC's know this by now and exploit it all game; which is saddening considering you know Allen knows this and us fans can call where a pass is going to go on a pass play with 75% efficiency because of that mis-match
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brakshow View Post
                          Dear Dennis,

                          I'm not going to beat around the bush here so I'm going to start with this. For the love of god take Andre Goodman out as our #2 CB. He is not a cover corner, he is awful. Andre Goodman can not tackle worth a lick as he should be able to do in his position (see Champ and all his open-field tackles). He gets burned and exploited every game; such as in the MINN game he got torched by Harvin and Ponder over and over...then dare I even bring up the Patriots playoff game. Point is the guy gives up the big play; I will not take away the fact that he is a ball hawk (which gives him use), but he should not be #2.

                          So here we go with the draft; lets get us a stud to play opposite Champ. Bailey doesn't have many big years left as CB and we need his experience desperately to mentor a new guy for the spot. I know we have the likes of Cassius Vaughn, Chris Harris, and Thompson so maybe with them all healthy this year we will not have to draft and/or acquire one from FA. This would be great; even if this is the case this guy (Andre Goodman) CAN NOT be our ever-down DB....when was the last time we even seen this guy execute a successful blitz? His limitations are endless and for those that will point out his INT's this year I will point out way more big plays that he blew coverage on. To be honest I would gladly take 2 big plays given up in a season over 2 INTS.

                          Goodman needs to realize that 21 points in blown coverages is not justified by a pick-6 and an INT....last I checked 21>7...Again I loved his pick to seal the game for us in Minnesota but he gave up waaaaaay more than he produced for this team that game.

                          So Allen do us all a big favor; look in the mirror, take a deep breath and go tell Andre he just got dropped to Nickel/Dime duty, because he is the most exploited defender on our team and the entire league knows it.

                          If you keep him, you rotate him to Nick/Dime...if you feel comfortable enough about our draft and the health of our newer guys then pull the trigger and try to get some value out of him, because I'm going to throw-up if I watch another year where he blows coverage on 7+ 30 yard TD passes.

                          Thats my two-cents, thoughts?

                          Goodmans still a decent corner, nothing spectacular, id want to see him replaced because i think he is at that point with his age that he wont be getting any better, i think we have seen the best he will ever be and he will only decline, now i say cut him and clear the way for Chris Harris , we need a good young corner with a lot of growth potential playing opposite of Champ , Champ is also getting older but unlike Goodman still has alot left in the tank.

                          What this defense really needs and its been needing it for a very long time is a dominate big man in the middle of that D-line, the pocket needs to be pushed back into the QBs face, force him to move side to side and right into the buzz saws we have rushing from the outside, These QBs at the end of the season looked way to comfy stepping up into the pocket and avoiding Elvis and Miller on the outside, hell Tom Brady looked like he coulda built a damn hammock in the pocket and slung a few TDs whilst laying down and drinking a beer, it was ridiculous
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                          • #14
                            I can see Chris Harris over taking Goody he was excellent this year and will only get better with a full offseason, he played well against Wes Welker (first game 4 catches 41 yards and second game 6 catches 55 yards) and was a tackling machine

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                            • #15
                              Dear Brakshow,

                              Thank you for your letter. I really appreciate it when fans offer some of their experience to make my job easier.

                              I was hoping you would have more advice than just some data on Andre Goodman, but since we have opened this line of communication, I am sure you will send me future correspondence on other matters I need to work on.

                              To address your concerns with Mr. Goodman, I am in total agreement! We tried to address the "Goodman problem" as we like to call it, before the season, but a few things fell through. First we tried to draft Patrick Peterson. Actually we tried to get him, Marcell Dareus, Aldon Smith, and Nick Fairley along with Von Miller, but for some reason they wouldnt let us take all those guys. Coach Fox tried to explain it to me, but I am still a little foggy on the whole process.

                              After that fell through, I told Coach Fox to trade him straight up for Darrell Revis. Imagine that secondary! Fox said that didnt work out. I am not sure he really tried that trade even though I showed him my Madden team. I also suggested trading Brutton for Troy Polamalu, but as you can see nothing came from that.

                              So all of my offseason attempts at taking care of the Goodman problem didnt work. I think Coach Fox wanted to address other areas before the Goodman problem, but I am still not sure why we just didnt fix everything. I will show him your letter to make sure we fix everything this offseason though. I am sure a message coming from Brakshow will light a fire under Coach Fox!

                              Thank you again for your help!

                              Dennis Allen
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