2 Year Plan (Superbowl Baby)

[itswutz4dinna]

Rainey is 5lbs heavier, but two inches shorter than Jackson.

That's my point; he's heavier AND shorter meaning more solidly built (although still really small obviously). It's like how Sproles has 10 lb's on Rainey but 2 inches shorter.

[BroncoooJohnson]

I'd rather go with James a round earlier, has the toughness to make a Sproles comparison fair.

[itswutz4dinna]

Made himself look dumb with the sub 4.2 comments to run a 4.42 but yeah, if available in the later rounds I'm all for it

Manning could use him well

Ya that was pretty dumb haha. But I really think he would be one of the fastest players in the league game-speed wise. Really shifty as well.

[BroncoooJohnson]

Vaughn's best returns were when he ran full speed without studdering, Vaughn is much more straight line than lateral.

[Matymaddog]

It's no secret the Giant's drafted JPP off his athleticism, and the backflips showcased his athleticism. JPP also weighed nearly 40 pounds less than Reyes. Reyes back flip was impressive athletically, get over it.

You literally said one of the main reasons the Giants drafted JPP was because he did a back flip. That is absolutely hilarious.

No, one of the main reasons JPP was drafted by the Giants was because he was a monster on the field. The Giants are not the Raiders. They aren't going to shoot someone up their draft board because they did a back flip at the combine. You don't do back flips in football.

[broncos SB2010]

I think he can probably add some lb's now that he's getting paid to eat. But he did have some injury problems in college which is a concern. Still it's not like he's DeSean Jackson tiny.

We have a decent RB corp now with McGahee, Moreno, Fannin, Ball, and JJ. I would either want to take a top RB option like Doug Martin or David Wilson over a specialty player like Rainey. That RB could take over the #1 spot when Mcgahee is gone, Rainey wouldn't do that. If the don't take a top RB then Vick Ballard or Ronnie Hillman would be my picks over Rainey. Hillman is almost as fast as Rainey and a better RB overall while Ballard is a chain mover.

If they don't like those options at RB than these are all better options than Rainey, and ones that provide help at much needed positions and/or depth:

OC Phillip Blake and Michael Brewster,
DT Wolfe and Forston,
WR Criner and Childs,
QB Foles,
CB Trumaine Johnson and Josh Norman,
DE Bequette and Johnson

[Br0nc0Buster]

It's no secret the Giant's drafted JPP off his athleticism, and the backflips showcased his athleticism. JPP also weighed nearly 40 pounds less than Reyes. Reyes back flip was impressive athletically, get over it.

The Giants did not draft him because he could do a backflip

A 300 pound man that can do flips is impressive from an athletic standpoint, but in no way shape or form does it imply football ability

Funny how Marcus Thomas can do flips, but cant use all that athleticism to get to the qb

[THEdraftnik]

You literally said one of the main reasons the Giants drafted JPP was because he did a back flip. That is absolutely hilarious.

No, one of the main reasons JPP was drafted by the Giants was because he was a monster on the field. The Giants are not the Raiders. They aren't going to shoot someone up their draft board because they did a back flip at the combine. You don't do back flips in football.

The main reason is because he is extremely athletic and the backflips showed that. He sucked in college. Extremely raw. They drafted him based off potential. It's a widely known fact. Get over it.

[Br0nc0Buster]

The main reason is because he is extremely athletic and the backflips showed that. He sucked in college. Extremely raw. They drafted him based off potential. It's a widely known fact. Get over it.

no they didnt
his quick first step and underrated power along with his ideal build showed that

[THEdraftnik]

no they didnt
his quick first step and underrated power along with his ideal build showed that

If you're going to try an argue that backflips are athletically impressive then this argument is over. Smh.

[-Rod-]

Reasons why Jason Pierre-Paul was a top 15 pick:

1) Prototypical size for a 4-3 DE: 6'5 270

2) Quick first step, explosive edge rusher

3) Long arms: 34 3/4 in.

4) Athleticism

[Br0nc0Buster]

If you're going to try an argue that backflips are athletically impressive then this argument is over. Smh.

Read the post 5 posts above this one

[THEdraftnik]

Reasons why Jason Pierre-Paul was a top 15 pick:

1) Prototypical size for a 4-3 DE: 6'5 270

2) Quick first step, explosive edge rusher

3) Long arms: 34 3/4 in.

4) Athleticism

1 and 3 are nearly the same category, an he wasn't explosive in college.

[THEdraftnik]

Read the post 5 posts above this one

Ok.

The Giants drafted him off of potential and confidence they could get him to reach that potential. Potential is directly related to size and athleticism. He's huge and he is a freak athlete.

Why are y'all trying to argue otherwise?

[-Rod-]

1 and 3 are nearly the same category, an he wasn't explosive in college.

Prototypical size: height and weight to play the position.

Arm length is a different item. Examples: Jake Bequette has prototypical size for a 4-3 DE (6'5, 270) but he has short arms (32").

Riley Reiff has prototypical size for an OT (6'6, 313) but he has short arms for the position (33 1/4"). Shorter arms than Zane Beadles.

And even those players with ideal height, weight and arm length might lack a quick first step to beat linemen right after the snap.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jason-pierre-paul?id=496843

Pierre-Paul is coming off a big year for the Bulls defense in his first season in the program. Pierre-Paul has a great frame to add additional bulk and strength which should improve him as a run defender. He shows natural quickness and anticipation as an edge rusher and has an expanded package to counter effectively. Pierre-Paul is a disruptive player with good range to run down plays from the backside but lacks the strength at the point of attack to stop the run. He will need to improve his hand use, pad level, strength and technique in this phase of the game at the next level but should fit in well in a 4-3 defensive scheme.

STRENGTHS Pierre-Paul has the size, frame and athleticism coveted in a 4-3 defensive end. He was highly productive in his one season at the Football Bowl Subdivision level. Exhibits impressive speed and quickness off the ball as a pass rusher and good long range in run pursuit. Does not have any durability concerns.