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  • Slam-dunk case for drafting OG in Round 1

    Even though football games are won and lost in the trenches, and thus Super Bowl teams usually have powerful offensive lines, as a team we've neglected the OG position in the draft for years. With the catastrophic injury to Chris Kuper we're basically down to scraps at the position, and need to protect our investment in Peyton Manning if we don't want to see him carted off the field with his neck stabilized. Our Oline was only 29th in pass defense last season.

    Football Outsiders Oline Rankings

    Offensive guard is a critical but underappreciated position. Having a guard who can expand the pocket to allow the quarterback to step up to avoid the pass rush on the edge or from zone blitzes gives pass plays more time to develop, keeps the quarterback upright and cuts down on interceptions, QB strips and sack-fumbles.

    Pocket-expanding guards are essential to protect the QB from elite penetrating DTs. A top-level DT can collapse the pocket, disrupt the running game and cause QB hurries, fumbles and sacks by edge rushers, so the offensive guards who are the only players on the field big enough and strong enough to stop these gridiron monsters are just as important, if not moreso. We clearly had no answer for Vince Wilfork in the playoff game against the Patriots, partly because guard Chris Kuper had gone down two weeks before against the Chiefs with his left foot flopping at a right angle.

    Gruesome Chris Kuper Injury

    Having guards who can pass-protect is good, but it's even better if we can get a player who is also a road-grader in the running game, who can get to the second level and punish the linebackers. That forces the safety up into run support and creates openings over the middle for the passing game with tight ends and slot receivers in play-action, critical skill positions in a Peyton Manning offense. And everyone knows how much Adrian Peterson owes his success to the huge holes opened up by the superb blocking of All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson road-grading the defense.

    Having huge road graders at the guard positions that can blow the DTs and MLBs off the ball is vital for converting 3rd and short and 4th and short. Last year Denver's Oline was only 26th in the league in "power success" as ranked by Football Outsiders. Fewer failures in short yardage situations would allow the offense to sustain drives and give the defense more time to rest.

    Guards who have the quick, athletic feet to pass-protect Peyton Manning and block quick, penetrating DTs but who are also big, strong men weighing in at 320+ pounds who excel in Fox's power-running schemes are very rare, almost as if they're from another planet. So the Planet Theory dictates that you have to draft these athletic freaks in the first round or you're not going to get them in free agency.

    Also supporting the Planet Theory is that these guys also have to be smart, which makes them even rarer than defensive linemen, at least if you go by the Wonderlic scores:

    I think to play offensive line in the NFL today is very hard. They have to adjust to so many different fronts. They have to understand blitz concepts. You've got to comprehend and be able to learn or else you're going to have a hard time....

    Bill Belichick used to always tell me the dumbest group is the defensive linemen, and centers are the smartest.
    Who Wears the NFL's Smarty Pants?

    There aren't many OGs in this year's draft with first round grades. David DeCastro, a very intelligent guard/center from Stanford, is probably the leading candidate at his position. He goes 6'5", 316 lbs., had 34 reps in the bench press at the Combine, and pass-blocked for Andrew Luck. If he falls to us at #25 we should definitely take him, and should consider trading up to get him too, as some mocks have him going as high as #11. If he falls to us at #25 then we can also use our 2nd round pick on one of the other quality guards, several of whom have 2nd round grades. Picking up two of them wouldn't be a bad idea given how thin we are at the position.

    2012 NFL Draft: Guard Rankings
    Last edited by CasualFan; 04-06-2012, 10:16 PM.

  • #2
    decastro will be long gone by 25....theres a few mocks in here that have taking iowa st guard in 2nd rd or ben jones center from georgia...

    walton was ranked near the bottom to...sure hope kuper comes back...the middle of both our offense n defense lines are weak...

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    • #3
      Great post. Im unsure about the interior oline as well. Questions about Kupers injury and the fact that neither Walton or Beadles have done enough to stand out is one of many reasons why I feel the 25th pick is wide open.

      The Broncos might address the oline with multiple picks but maybe not with the first round pick. Clearly depth is an issue (Harris, Hochstien, and Clark)

      If Kupers ready to go and the Broncos believe he can play an entire season, then adding olineman is less of a priority. Adding a overpriced vet at this point doesnt make a lot of sense so I dont think they go that route. I think the Broncos look to upgrade but ultimately add some later round picks on the online.

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      • #4
        I'm not convinced.


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        • #5
          If we get on the clock and the best guard is significantly better than the best DT, then do it.

          I am fine with any position as long as EFX feels they will be a beast. Just like Von last year, wasn't our biggest need, Dareus would have filed that. But Von was the best player, and that's exactly what we should do at 25 this year. Go with the best player no matter what the position (with only very few exceptions of course).

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          • #6
            When all is said and done in TC, I can see Franklin at OG and Harris at RT. Harris is a way better pass protector and a solid run blocker. Franklins biggest struggle is speed rushers, and with manning we will take no risks, Franklin is a mauler and will match up extremely well with DT in the interior.
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            • #7
              I would love DeCastro at #25. Its too bad he most likely will not be there
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              • #8
                If we can move up with our 3rd to nab DeCastro, I would be 100% for the move. Fact that he is an excellent OC also just makes him an ideal pick for the Manning run.

                Instant impact player.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the0rangecrush
                  When all is said and done in TC, I can see Franklin at OG and Harris at RT. Harris is a way better pass protector and a solid run blocker. Franklins biggest struggle is speed rushers, and with manning we will take no risks, Franklin is a mauler and will match up extremely well with DT in the interior.
                  Guess that bodes well if Harris returns to health and Playing levels like he was before jumping ship to Philly. Now is he just a safety net or our best option for now?
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                  • #10
                    I like our tackles with Harris and Clady provided Harris is Harris and he is pissed off. Walton, beatles cooper and frankiln. of the bunch Franklis showed great run "road grading" blocking last year. I would definately have him at guard. I would look to upgrade the other three with anyone not currently dead.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PioneerBroncFan
                      I like our tackles with Harris and Clady provided Harris is Harris and he is pissed off. Walton, beatles cooper and frankiln. of the bunch Franklis showed great run "road grading" blocking last year. I would definately have him at guard. I would look to upgrade the other three with anyone not currently dead.
                      Is Walton the answer at Center and how will he adapt to #18?

                      Beadles had off season LASIK surgery wonder if that helps him?

                      Kuper should be back on track! Tough lineman I mean look how cal
                      he was after the injury.

                      Clady let's hope he can return to top tier form.

                      Franklin is a beast and I want to see him continue to grow into a beast!

                      I'm just not sold on Harris. See him as a short term plug at most.

                      Wonder how many false starts they get called for as they adapt to PM's audibles and movements.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 100%Broncoholic
                        Guess that bodes well if Harris returns to health and Playing levels like he was before jumping ship to Philly. Now is he just a safety net or our best option for now?
                        He should be healthy given he's had a year off, I think allbut 2 spots are up for grabs on the line LT(clady) and RG(Kuper) the other 3 spots are wide open(however unless we draft an OC Walton is pretty much default)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PioneerBroncFan
                          I like our tackles with Harris and Clady provided Harris is Harris and he is pissed off. Walton, beatles cooper and frankiln. of the bunch Franklis showed great run "road grading" blocking last year. I would definately have him at guard. I would look to upgrade the other three with anyone not currently dead.
                          I would say Kuper is a lock, he played at an extremely high level last year and was the brain of the O-line.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by the0rangecrush
                            He should be healthy given he's had a year off, I think allbut 2 spots are up for grabs on the line LT(clady) and RG(Kuper) the other 3 spots are wide open(however unless we draft an OC Walton is pretty much default)
                            Have to wonder about him at C for sure. I think Franklin is secure too. We are young but the future is bright. The line gave the qb plenty of time to throw and we had a 1000 yd rusher so they can do the job. PM must have seen the potential too he chose the team and you know he analyzed the o-line.

                            Wait didn't we have a misfit line that no one wanted or believed in back in 96-99?
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                            • #15
                              ?
                              from all reports Kupers injury was not as bad as seen on tv
                              it sounds like he should be good to go when the season rolls around

                              I would not be opposed to adding a OG or C, but decastro will be long gone when we pick

                              maybe glenn

                              but i think the best value for where we pick will be on the defensive side of the ball

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