NFL Draft Biggest Losers

[broncosfan2012]

The NFL Draft is over and now it's time to figure out who were the biggest losers that night. Some say that the Jaguars didn't risk much and other might think the San Francisco 49ers.

Who are your choices of the NFL biggest losers?

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[yaz96]

The 49'ers didn't have that many needs. Why would they be considered losers?

[Charlie Brown]

The Browns

Enough said!

Nobody could possibly have had a worse draft than the Browns. The drafted started well, but then everything went downhill extremely quickly and each selection became a bid to be even more ridiculous and more of a reach than the previous one.

Heck, by the third round they had already selected a player that was expected to go undrafted!

[AdamWeberOrBust]

The Browns

Enough said!

Nobody could possibly have had a worse draft than the Browns. The drafted started well, but then everything went downhill extremely quickly and each selection became a bid to be even more ridiculous and more of a reach than the previous one.

Heck, by the third round they had already selected a player that was expected to go undrafted!

I knew that when Brandon Weeden got drafted by the Browns your head would explode.

[BF_forever]

The Browns easily. They had two firsts and they still managed to mess everything up. They still have no WRs, Trent is going to have a rough time running vs 8-9 men in the box because their WRs cant get open. The one WR they did take plays the same role as Josh Cribbs. Weeden will just be another QB bust for them. Their defense still needs help. Their best pick was OT Mitchell Schwartz.

[Yakka27]

Any time you draft a starting RB and a starting QB in the same draft, you must have done a decent job. Browns didn't have a terrible draft.

[Joshecalpoly]

Any time you draft a starting RB and a starting QB in the same draft, you must have done a decent job. Browns didn't have a terrible draft.

Well when the starting QB is 29 with more wear and tear on his sholder then most NFL QB's its debateable

[japfaff]

The Browns definitely had a bad draft....But anytime you spend a first round pick on a RB you have had a bad draft. They will be picking top 5 once again next season.

I am ok with the 49er draft. They had no real holes so everything was a luxury pick.

I think we should be on there for bad drafts. Everyone would agree that we are in a win now mode. Yet we didnt take anyone that will really help us out this season until day 3. And that is a 180 lb back. How long is he going to hold up? Left a lot on the table and just didnt make the team better this season...

[broncos SB2010]

The Browns definitely had a bad draft....But anytime you spend a first round pick on a RB you have had a bad draft. They will be picking top 5 once again next season.

I am ok with the 49er draft. They had no real holes so everything was a luxury pick.

I think we should be on there for bad drafts. Everyone would agree that we are in a win now mode. Yet we didnt take anyone that will really help us out this season until day 3. And that is a 180 lb back. How long is he going to hold up? Left a lot on the table and just didnt make the team better this season...

I think both Wolfe and Hillman will contribute quite a bit this season.

[fraguela09]

I like the players we grabbed... But the truth is, to many onlookers across the NFL Universe DEN is seen to have had a less than stellar performance in the 2012 draft. In DAL, the respected radio host Norm Hitzges went so far as to call us one of the draft losers.

On the surface, it appears that our first 4 picks were reaches. That may not be so, but we'll know. Not huge reaches, but still not considered good value picks for where these prospects were selected. On top of that, we seem like we have a desperate front office when it comes to trades. CIN moves from 21 to 27 and gets a 3rd from NE. BAL moves from 29 to 35 and gets the 98th pick. DEN drops out of the first round entirely and only gets the 101st selection. Not good. What happens when the phone rings next April? Wont teams try to play chicken with us again? We seem to always blink first.

I understand EFX wanted to get Manning's successor. But Champ-Doom-Manning, & the fans, want to win now. Brock isn't so good that he's worth the reach. He's good enough where if he falls to you in the 3rd/4th, take the gamble. But in the 2nd? Man. ASK GB how it feels when they went for insurance at QB, & drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd round in 2008. Ouch.

I think Wolfe is better than Worthy-Still-Reyes, so I'm fine with this... But until he proves it on the field the perception is we reached for a DT when "better" ones were available. Hillman & Bolden could be steals. Gems. They may have been scooped up soon anyway. But, still... the perception is we reached a bit.

This isn't saying I feel we had a bad draft. I just feel we left real value out there. We passed on a good player, who would have helped us win in 2012. We passed on the opportunity to add another 3rd/4th round prospect to our roster b/c we made trades just for making trades sake. In other words, we left 2 players who would have contributed in 2012 on the table. Instead, we got a Qb who wont play for 3-5 yrs, and an injured CB who we hope wont need a full year to get healthy. 2 of our first 4 picks might not play a down in 2012. The other 2, aren't seen as elite top-100 players.

I know our front office is thinking: WHO CARES what others think, or say. We make our evaluations, we decide what we need/want; we make our 'Big Board' and we stick to it. That's fine. The problem is, our front office doesn't have the equity. They don't deserve the benefit of doubt. Xanders has been iffy (at best) handling the draft. Rahim Moore was a disaster. Drafts of 2009 & 2010 nothing special. We haven't shown that we're smarter than the rest of the league. Maybe this draft sends that message. That we saw/notices something that most other teams didn't. We shall see.

[primetime714]

I know our front office is thinking: WHO CARES what others think, or say. We make our evaluations, we decide what we need/want; we make our 'Big Board' and we stick to it. That's fine. The problem is, our front office doesn't have the equity. They don't deserve the benefit of doubt. Xanders has been iffy (at best) handling the draft. Rahim Moore was a disaster. Drafts of 2009 & 2010 nothing special. We haven't shown that we're smarter than the rest of the league. Maybe this draft sends that message. That we saw/notices something that most other teams didn't. We shall see.

Well said. McDaniels did a lot of the same things in the draft that EFX is doing now and many Broncos fans supported his decisions at the time claiming that he was building a system and drafting players that fit into what he was trying to do. Well that's great, but when you leave better talent on the board that's not the case. That said McD's moves were obviously a bit more dubious than what EFX, but when you go against the grain with your draft board there is a lot more pressure to be right. Guys like Wolfe and Hillman have to make a positive impact almost right away. And Osweiler has to show some promise where people feel like he will be the heir to Manning and a good one at that. EFX has not earned their stripes yet. They made a great decision taking Von Miller last year with the rest of their draft last year being a mixed bag.

I think this draft will tell you a lot about their ability to evaluate talent. Good drafting organizations like Pittsburgh and Green Bay hit on their picks despite lack luster drafting position most years. EFX will show if they can do that with the results of this draft class.

[fraguela09]

Well said. McDaniels did a lot of the same things in the draft that EFX is doing now and many Broncos fans supported his decisions at the time claiming that he was building a system and drafting players that fit into what he was trying to do. Well that's great, but when you leave better talent on the board that's not the case. That said McD's moves were obviously a bit more dubious than what EFX, but when you go against the grain with your draft board there is a lot more pressure to be right. Guys like Wolfe and Hillman have to make a positive impact almost right away. And Osweiler has to show some promise where people feel like he will be the heir to Manning and a good one at that. EFX has not earned their stripes yet. They made a great decision taking Von Miller last year with the rest of their draft last year being a mixed bag.

I think this draft will tell you a lot about their ability to evaluate talent. Good drafting organizations like Pittsburgh and Green Bay hit on their picks despite lack luster drafting position most years. EFX will show if they can do that with the results of this draft class.

I agree completely. Mcdaniels was a disaster from the get-go. Xanders allowed him to morph from HC to HC/GM. Taking Moreno when Orakpo fell was foolish. Those 3 2nd round picks were brutal Fortunately they were so bad they led to us getting Von MIller. Passing on Cody? Insane.

I think Xanders redeemed himself last year, and I do believe EFX have done nothing yet to warrant suspicion (from me at least). I loved the moves to bring in FOX & draft Miller. Both could be deemed "risky" at the time. Dareus would have been the safer bet. I think they get a pass on missign on Moore (& I won't write him off yet), mainly b/c they were able to find Chris Harris (and they took Carter later). Franklin served his purpose, although we'll see if he keeps Manning on his feet.

Jury is still out on Irving. He could make last year's draft very solid.

if we hit on Fannin/Hillman then the legend will start to grow. If Brock hits, then we're talking about utter genius level.

We shall see. We have potential in Fannin/Hillman to have our RBs of the future; In Moore, Carter, Harris, Bolden to have 3 starting DBs. Perhaps Blake-Franklin comprise 2/5 of our OL moving fwd.

There's nothing wrong playing it safe and hitting safely down the green. Keys to the draft is not to miss on your first pick, and to find something in the 4-7/urfa class.

In terms of this draft, Derek Wolfe has to be an immediate force. JJ Watt light. And since we went all-in on Brock, he has to be the answer when Manning cannot do it any longer.

[Mike1709]

On the surface, it appears that our first 4 picks were reaches. That may not be so, but we'll know. Not huge reaches, but still not considered good value picks for where these prospects were selected. On top of that, we seem like we have a desperate front office when it comes to trades. CIN moves from 21 to 27 and gets a 3rd from NE. BAL moves from 29 to 35 and gets the 98th pick. DEN drops out of the first round entirely and only gets the 101st selection. Not good. What happens when the phone rings next April? Wont teams try to play chicken with us again? We seem to always blink first.

If you go by the trade value charts though, every prior trade to ours during round 1 had the team trading back 'losing out' value wise. New England also didn't have a lot to give us in this draft as they'd already traded up once. I suppose they could have flipped us a 3rd in 2013 as well but I've never liked the notion of trading away future picks as they are seen as not worth as much value wise and maybe the Pats felt the same way or we had no other options to trade back and were desperate to do so. The second part of the trade back (with Tampa Bay) was pretty much a wash (10 point differential on the pick charts).

What made us look a little foolish is that Baltimore between our two trades managed to get Minnesota to overpay to move up which meant that Baltimore had gone from behind us to infront of us in multiple rounds when in fact we didn't do any worse than many of the other teams trading down in round 1.

We also got about half of the 'lost value' back by trading up in the 3rd as pick value wise, we were the winners in that trade.

[jgod654]

Please remember that the draft is like Vegas. It is playing odds. It does not matter when you win as long as you do win enough to come out ahead. Statistically speaking, getting three long term starters in ANY draft is awesome. Last year we had:

Miller
Franklin (who will do well at either RT or G)
Carter (who will start this year)
Harris

That is one heck of a draft. And the jury is still out on J. Thomas, Irving, Green and Moore. But when if they all bust we did well.

This year it looks as if Wolfe and Hillman are penciled in to begin with. The rest are longer term.

[HavoK471]

The Chiefs and Dolphins had a pretty bad draft