The Defensive draft

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

I wouldn't mind us drafting a NT and going DT first pick two years in a row assuming we plan to move Wolfe inside to the 3-tech. There's a bunch of NTs who are considered high picks right now. Some will probably drop due to work ethic, inconsistency, or some other issues but look at this possible lineup of NTs as of right now:

Hankins, Ohio State
Lotulelei, Utah
Short, Purdue
Jenkins, Georgia
Jesse Williams, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, UNC

Some good NTs out there. Hankins is the only one who can go back to play in college next year. He says he's gonna go back but his mind may change when he's considered a very high pick.

I would rather sign Knighton in FA. Go Te'o in the 1st and sign Knighton via FA. That would be my plan.

[ERoyal248]

I would rather sign Knighton in FA. Go Te'o in the 1st and sign Knighton via FA. That would be my plan.

Even if we did that, DL is still a problem...

[the0rangecrush]

Wrong! Great teams find ways to win. Our Broncos is above average and getting better. May never be a "great team".
Good teams are going to lose on the road to other good teams. New England is a Good team and when they get some people healthy they will be a great team again. Houston is the best team in the AFC and I think a healthy Patriot team could beat them at home. Us losing to them in their house doesn't make us a 7-9 or worse team!

No good teams do find ways to win, great teams very rarely if ever put themselves in that situation. Losing to NE doesnt make us bad, but being one of the worst teams in the league with turnovers and a D that can't even compete does.

[the0rangecrush]

Even if we did that, DL is still a problem...

Knighton, SLH, id bring back Vick, and Wolfe is a decent to good DT situation. Also Jackson has time to develop. Get guys that allow our backers to flow and make plays, and these guys can do it.

[ERoyal248]

Knighton, SLH, id bring back Vick, and Wolfe is a decent to good DT situation. Also Jackson has time to develop. Get guys that allow our backers to flow and make plays, and these guys can do it.

Knighton would be great, and who is SLH?

[the0rangecrush]

Knighton would be great, and who is SLH?

Sammie Lee Hill from Detroit, a very good run stuffer also young. I'd also consider a push for Alan Branch.

[Captain_23]

I'd rather take my boy, D.J. Swearninger from South Carolina. Best safety that will be entering the draft imo ( Not a biased statement because his play backs up my claim, as well as his importance to the 4th ranked defense in the nation)

[Joshecalpoly]

No good teams do find ways to win, great teams very rarely if ever put themselves in that situation. Losing to NE doesnt make us bad, but being one of the worst teams in the league with turnovers and a D that can't even compete does.

Good teams can also create turnovers. NE is actually 3rd best in the NFL in this category. Also, the Cardinals are worse then us and they are doing fine and the same goes for the Eagles and the Steelers.

Of the 5 teams in the AFC ahead in the rankings. 4 of them have a better D and NE is only slightly better. Yet a main reason for this is statistically WE HAVE THE 2nd HARDEST SCHEDULE IN THE NFL and THE HARDEST PART OF THE SCHEDULE ARE THE FIRST 6 GAMES. Every Every Every expert has mentioned this about our team since the schedule came out and now they are saying those first 6 weeks are even harder they thought they would be because noone expected Hou or Atl to be undefeated

Ill admit I saw us going 8-8 at the beginning of the season yet winning the division again (dont forget SD has to play a similar schedule, and heres how I see it playing out now)

SD-loss
bye
NO-win
CIN-win
CAR-win
SD-win
KC-win
TB-win
OAK-win/loss
BALT-loss
CLEV-win
KC-win/loss

I didnt expect NO to have as bad of a D as they have and believe me its worse then ours. So right now we can go anywhere from 11-5 IMO to 9-7. We have several winnable games ahead of us and the hardest part was at the beginning of the season. I dare you to find a team we played with a better D then Houston or a better offense then NE, and you cant.

Heck I ask you to find me a team whose more complete then the 3 we lost to on our schedule. YOU CANT.

[Joshecalpoly]

Knighton, SLH, id bring back Vick, and Wolfe is a decent to good DT situation. Also Jackson has time to develop. Get guys that allow our backers to flow and make plays, and these guys can do it.

This is why I say we need Ayers mor at DEits what he does best, last year he opened up the holes to allow quick moves into the backfield for our LB's. The man was great at taking on TE's and forcing them to block him rather then Miller and allow Miller to sneak threw while eliminating an offensive threat.

Still because Ayers cant get to the QB we ignore his upside.

[Kansas Bob]

New England knows how to win, Denver is just learning that. As a team New England has been 80% together as a team for years and most of Denver is new players in a new system (under a new DC) both offense and defense. New QB has to get use to NEW RECEIVERS, it will take time. On defense we have two new starters at safety, one new CB, one new starter at OLB, and new bodies in the DL. If Denver can just get into the playoffs, they ought to have enough playing time together to be a serious contender. To say this early that they are headed for 7-9 season record and give up on them is insane.

[the0rangecrush]

Good teams can also create turnovers. NE is actually 3rd best in the NFL in this category. Also, the Cardinals are worse then us and they are doing fine and the same goes for the Eagles and the Steelers.

Of the 5 teams in the AFC ahead in the rankings. 4 of them have a better D and NE is only slightly better. Yet a main reason for this is statistically WE HAVE THE 2nd HARDEST SCHEDULE IN THE NFL and THE HARDEST PART OF THE SCHEDULE ARE THE FIRST 6 GAMES. Every Every Every expert has mentioned this about our team since the schedule came out and now they are saying those first 6 weeks are even harder they thought they would be because noone expected Hou or Atl to be undefeated

Ill admit I saw us going 8-8 at the beginning of the season yet winning the division again (dont forget SD has to play a similar schedule, and heres how I see it playing out now)

SD-loss
bye
NO-win
CIN-win
CAR-win
SD-win
KC-win
TB-win
OAK-win/loss
BALT-loss
CLEV-win
KC-win/loss

I didnt expect NO to have as bad of a D as they have and believe me its worse then ours. So right now we can go anywhere from 11-5 IMO to 9-7. We have several winnable games ahead of us and the hardest part was at the beginning of the season. I dare you to find a team we played with a better D then Houston or a better offense then NE, and you cant.

Heck I ask you to find me a team whose more complete then the 3 we lost to on our schedule. YOU CANT.

No way we take both here we split at these games, but I wouldn't be surprised to lose both. Saints offense will give us fits. Just wait till we have Mays cover Sproles.

[the0rangecrush]

New England knows how to win, Denver is just learning that. As a team New England has been 80% together as a team for years and most of Denver is new players in a new system (under a new DC) both offense and defense. New QB has to get use to NEW RECEIVERS, it will take time. On defense we have two new starters at safety, one new CB, one new starter at OLB, and new bodies in the DL. If Denver can just get into the playoffs, they ought to have enough playing time together to be a serious contender. To say this early that they are headed for 7-9 season record and give up on them is insane.

Turnover prone and are a piss poor defense. I'll tell you this we are closer to 7-9 than 10-6. Although 8-8 is probably the most likely.

[broncos SB2010]

New England knows how to win, Denver is just learning that. As a team New England has been 80% together as a team for years and most of Denver is new players in a new system (under a new DC) both offense and defense. New QB has to get use to NEW RECEIVERS, it will take time. On defense we have two new starters at safety, one new CB, one new starter at OLB, and new bodies in the DL. If Denver can just get into the playoffs, they ought to have enough playing time together to be a serious contender. To say this early that they are headed for 7-9 season record and give up on them is insane.

No. The haven't. 11 of their 22 starters have been starting/with the team for 2 years or less, not including this year.

I do agree that the Broncos have more new players than NE does and they need time to "gel". Unfortunately, they will be looking for a new QB by the time that happens........

[Kansas Bob]

No. The haven't. 11 of their 22 starters have been starting/with the team for 2 years or less, not including this year.

I do agree that the Broncos have more new players than NE does and they need time to "gel". Unfortunately, they will be looking for a new QB by the time that happens........

I guess you are correct. Playing together for two years and five games isn't better than playing together for 5 games. In those two years they have play together in how many big games (playoff and Super Bowl games)? Last season New England beat Denver twice badly, I think we did much better yesterday than last year. Let the team jell together!

[broncos SB2010]

I guess you are correct. Playing together for two years and five games isn't better than playing together for 5 games. In those two years they have play together in how many big games (playoff and Super Bowl games)? Last season New England beat Denver twice badly, I think we did much better yesterday than last year. Let the team jell together!

I agree that the team needs time to develop some chemistry, however, time won't change the fact that the team lacks talent in many key areas and Manning will be gone before that chemistry can develop and before the weak links can be replaced and therefore chemistry with the new QB will be needed. They won't be in true competition for the title for quite a while yet...