Orland Franklin is a BUM

[BroncoooJohnson]

Looks like Manny created a name here to try and get the heat off!

LOL. Just negated a terrible post with a class A post!

[Joshecalpoly]

Looks like Manny created a name here to try and get the heat off!

Well he was run out of Detroit, after being a starter, I wouldnt doubt he probably stopped going by Manuel at this time lol.

[CoryWinget81]

Looks like Manny created a name here to try and get the heat off!

[broncos SB2010]

On the particular play in question Ramirez swung in to play zone ignoring a player who swung out, but Koppen had already managed to sweep the DT Ramirez came into help leaving him doing nothing as the defender came in behind him

In this case it was either a bad scheme, a failed assignment or a missed block. Either way it was bad, and the truth is the most common break down in our scheme comes from Ramirez.

Barrett Jones..........

[Joshecalpoly]

The Broncos have two OL on IR and two on PS. Then there's free agency and the draft. If it is possible to upgrade the starting unit or the qulity of depth, I'm sure they will do it.

One thing I have noticed about the Broncos' run blocking is that besides zone and assignment blocks (i.e., base, base away, drive, down, double down, double down chip, reach, scoop, GTO, pull to Trap, lead, seal, kickout), they use a lot of influence and release to the second level (a la Frank Leahy's T-Formation O).

The blocking they do is very sophisticated even by NFL standards and is a tribute to Dave Magazu's coaching. Sometimes the influence and release is backside which done at the HS level. However, I have noticed that sometimes they influence and release playside which is, to me, rare. If a defender is shooting that gap, it may look like a missed block, but may not be.

Peyton Manning uses a lot of play action passes. The Broncos' OL does a good job of taking run steps at the beginning of PAP which does a good job of freezing the D, especially the Backers. However, again, if a defender is shooting a gap, it may look like a breakdown in pass pro, but really isn't. The Bucs' D, last Sunday, tried to show the same basic look, but accomplished penetration for TFL with line stunts, especially pinch and slant.

On the particular play in question Ramirez swung in to play zone ignoring a player who swung out, but Koppen had already managed to sweep the DT Ramirez came into help leaving him doing nothing as the defender came in behind him

In this case it was either a bad scheme, a failed assignment or a missed block. Either way it was bad, and the truth is the most common break down in our scheme comes from Ramirez.

[samparnell]

The Broncos have two OL on IR and two on PS. Then there's free agency and the draft. If it is possible to upgrade the starting unit or the quality of depth, I'm sure they will do it.

One thing I have noticed about the Broncos' run blocking is that besides zone and assignment blocks (i.e., base, base away, drive, down, double down, double down chip, reach, scoop, GTO, pull to Trap, lead, seal, kickout), they use a lot of influence and release to the second level (a la Frank Leahy's T-Formation O).

The blocking they do is very sophisticated even by NFL standards and is a tribute to Dave Magazu's coaching. Sometimes the influence and release is backside which done at the HS level. However, I have noticed that sometimes they influence and release playside which is, to me, rare. If a defender is shooting that gap, it may look like a missed block, but may not be.

Peyton Manning uses a lot of play action passes. The Broncos' OL does a good job of taking run steps at the beginning of PAP which does a good job of freezing the D, especially the Backers. However, again, if a defender is shooting a gap, it may look like a breakdown in pass pro, but really isn't. The Bucs' D, last Sunday, tried to show the same basic look, but accomplished penetration for TFL with line stunts, especially pinch and slant.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The pretense of this thread is a load of crap. Franklin is one of the best RT's in the league. I saw him get beat once.....

He's a monster, and I'm sure 20 -25 teams would love to take him off of our hands.

[berlownacyo7s]

Dang, some of you guys are mean! Haha.

In all seriousness though, I think Ramirez is more to blame than Franklin. While the latter has had some issues with pass protection in the past, I think he has improved leaps and bounds since we drafted him and could very well be the long term answer at RT. So no, I do not agree that he is a bum.

[BroncosTX77]

y'all got trolled~ Hook. Line. Stinker.

Yes. Ramirez is a scrub.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

With our team in the mix for a playoff run,with a win thursday taking over the 2nd bye,this thread makes no sense whatsoever.We won the game,and our running game was very efficient,i'm not sure what you were watching bro.

[Joshecalpoly]

If Kuper plays, this thread doesn't happen. Franklin kept having to pick up Ramirez's slack.

As did Koppen, the more I watch him the more I think we need to draft a backup G, or maybe even a replacement for Kuper.

I hate replacing the lines captain but we could draft Larry Warford and move Beadles to the weakside (the only reason we havent with Ramirez was because we tried and he caused to many problems for Clady.).

Or we can draft a backup, personally I like Travis Bond

[EvertonBroncos]

If Kuper plays, this thread doesn't happen. Franklin kept having to pick up Ramirez's slack.

[NDGuy521]

I put the unfortunate OL play solely on backup OG M. Ramirez.

At this point I really hope we draft Alabama OL Barrett Jones.

According to Walter Football he is a round 1 to 3 prospect.

Maybe we can do a similar trade like last year and select
two players in the second round:

my wish:

R2 a: OL Barret Jones
R2 b: DT

After last night, I think we found a weak spot in our game, offensive line depth. And Franklin was not the issue, if he is an issue, its a GOOD issue. Ramirez is struggling big-time. I don't mean to rag on him, but he is just overmatched. I am nervous about him playing Ngata next week.

IMO, offensive lineman may be our top need in the draft, but that doesn't mean we reach for anyone. I am not sure what to think of Jones yet, love his versatility but he was overmatched vs Georgia early, but then turned it around. So props to him for making adjustments against Jenkins, a probable 1st rounder this year. I know we have Kuper and hopefully this is just a streak of bad luck, but we need depth. Kind of like the idea of G Warford from Kentucky in the 2nd round. I like Austin or a safety by names of Vaccaro or Elam in the 1st.

[samparnell]

Orlando Franklin was not responsible for any sack tonight.

Maybe it's a typo. Maybe he meant Orlando Franklin has a bum.

[mozzerpete]

I put the unfortunate OL play solely on backup OG M. Ramirez.

At this point I really hope we draft Alabama OL Barrett Jones.

According to Walter Football he is a round 1 to 3 prospect.

Maybe we can do a similar trade like last year and select
two players in the second round:

my wish:

R2 a: OL Barret Jones
R2 b: DT