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  • You guys are over reacting about prater. What kick did he miss from 40 this year when it mattered?

    Because I'm pretty sure we had 0 games come down to a fg. We either got owned or owned the team we played.

    So any missed were irrelevant to the outcome of the games.

    And the playoff kick was from 52 yards in 13 degree weather. Not exactly your normal every day conditions for kicking.

    Sure he shouldn't have missed as bad as he did but my dad said it was stupid to be kicking from 52 in that weather to begin with.

    I know Tucker nailed from 47 when it was below 10 but that was going the good direction. All kickoffs that direction were touchbacks except the very first one that they fumbled.

    But 4th quarter and OT fg's prater is as good as they come in the NFL. So don't say he missed from 40 when it matters. Most of his misses are early in games when it doesn't matter.
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    • I still think DJ Swearinger the best safety in the draft.

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      • Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
        You guys are over reacting about prater. What kick did he miss from 40 this year when it mattered?

        Because I'm pretty sure we had 0 games come down to a fg. We either got owned or owned the team we played.

        So any missed were irrelevant to the outcome of the games.

        And the playoff kick was from 52 yards in 13 degree weather. Not exactly your normal every day conditions for kicking.

        Sure he shouldn't have missed as bad as he did but my dad said it was stupid to be kicking from 52 in that weather to begin with.

        I know Tucker nailed from 47 when it was below 10 but that was going the good direction. All kickoffs that direction were touchbacks except the very first one that they fumbled.

        But 4th quarter and OT fg's prater is as good as they come in the NFL. So don't say he missed from 40 when it matters. Most of his misses are early in games when it doesn't matter.
        That makes no sense....ALL kicks matter.

        This season Prater made 81% of his kicks. That has him ranked 27th in the league. He was only 5 out of 9 between 40-49. Last season he only made 76% of his kicks and ranked 29th and 3 for 7 between 40-49. He needs to be much more consistent than that.
        Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-19-2013, 12:24 PM.
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        • It matters when the kicker gives the ball back to the other team near midfield in the playoffs. Prater kicked the turf before hitting the ball. Bad technique. The Broncos missed a chance to lead by 10 points. The Ravens got the ball back, scored a TD and the game was tied. The field goal was a questionable decision, but the execution by Prater was awful.
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          • I don't know how good Eric Reid is because I haven't seen him play. I do know that Phillip Thomas, Dexter McCoil, Jermaine Robinson and Bradley MacDougald made their all-conference teams (1st or 2nd team) and rank among the top-50 pass defenders statistically. Eric Reid didn't and doesn't.

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            • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
              That makes no sense....ALL kicks matter.

              This season Prater made 81% of his kicks. That has him ranked 27th in the league. He was only 5 out of 9 between 40-49. Last season he only made 76% of his kicks and ranked 29th and 3 for 7 between 40-49. He needs to be much more consistent than that.
              He has been better than that in years past. He's in a slump. Too early to get rid of him.

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              • Originally posted by SmokeBassett View Post
                He has been better than that in years past. He's in a slump. Too early to get rid of him.
                bringing in competition is different than getting rid of him
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                • First ever mock draft

                  So here I go, first mock I've done so be gentle. Imo, broncos trade out of the first round again unless some crazy drop happens with a top ranked prospect, Not likely though. They pick up a 2nd and 3rd maybe a fourth instead, let's go with a 2nd and 3rd though.
                  2.a.Kyle long -OL,Oregon. Kid has got the pedigree to be great. He's huge at 6'7 315 pounds, light on his feet with that size and he would instantly start.
                  2.b. A DT. This draft seems so deep at this position that I think we can get a starter in rounds 1-4. For argument sake I put us taking one here. Sharriff Floyd or john Jenkins, kawann short, Sylvester Williams, there's a lot.
                  3.a.Blidi Wreh-Wilson-CB, UConn. 6'2(as he is listed on UConn's website) 195. Great size, good footwork, good cover skills, plays well against the run and can get the ball back for our offense. I like him more than amerson and player.
                  3.a. looking at this, swap this pick and that last one. I assume we get another 3rd rounder for trading back, and we grab Ryan Swope. Every mock I've seen has us grabbing him, so I agree. Then we grab Blibi.
                  4.a. Here's where I'm curious. Do we spend a fourth on an injured Marcus Lattimore?? I think we could probably get him later. So here I'm going to go with....drum roll please,
                  Tyrann Mathieu-FS, LSU. I think after that last game Broncos look to bring in a safety, I mean a real good one via free agency. But this kid finds ways to get the ball. I really don't think he'll go earlier than this. To small, to much time away from the game and character issues will keep teams from looking his way before this point.
                  5.a. Now let's get Lattimore. I don't think we'll have our sixth because of the bunkley trade. 7th round who care. I know I didn't pick any ILB. That's because we have Irving, Trevathan, and others I think the coaches are leaning towards. Same with the TE. Green was starting to get used a lot toward the end of the season. Tamme and Dreessen aren't going anywhere. Who knows what we have in Thomas?! As far as free agents, I know Broncos will free up money and be aggressive if they feel there is someone there who can really make an impact now. DT Melton, FS Byrd, those kind of guys. But tell me what you think about this. McGahee is old, we need another bruiser. I know he really has done much sense he left, but Peyton Hillis is a free agent. He should come somewhat cheap considering the lack of production sense his one good year with the Browns. He was great for us when we used him correctly. Just an idea. Let me know what you think of all this mess. GO BRONCOS!!!

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                  • Pretty darn good draft, especially for a first time.

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                    • the off seasons

                      Broncos Free Agents:
                      Justin Bannan - Resign
                      Lance Ball - Let go
                      Keith Brooking - Let go
                      David Bruton - re-sign
                      Tony Carter - re-sign
                      Ryan Clady - re-sign right now
                      Chris Clark - let go
                      Britton Colquitt - re-sign
                      Chris Gronkowski - Let go
                      Jason Hunter - re-sign
                      Dan Koppen - re-sign
                      Jim Leonhard - let go
                      Tracy Porter - re-sign
                      Brandon Stokley - what ever he wants to do
                      Mitch Unrein - re-sign
                      Kevin Vickerson - re-sign
                      Ty Warren - re-sign only if he stays health
                      Matt Willis - Let go

                      Restructure Contracts for the following players:
                      Champ Bailey
                      Elvis Dumervil
                      Payton Manning
                      DJ Williams
                      Joe Mays - or let him go

                      Free agents that denver should sign:
                      Michael Johnson
                      Rey Maualuga
                      Jairus Byrd
                      Dallas Clark
                      Glenn Dorsey
                      Brain Hartline
                      Rashad Jennings
                      Chaz Schilens

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                      • I don't want Justin Bannan to resign.

                        If you let Chris Clark go, who do you have as backup T?
                        "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                        • not bad but id swap long for keith reddick MLB i feel we need 1...brookings old n prolly gone, DJ has 1 yr left n due 6 mill he might be gone, mays got paid but also benched, irving well if he was good enough i feel hed be in there...

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                          • Poyer breaks on the ball faster. Break on the ball means getting from one spot to another to make a play on the ball tip or pick. Amerson rarely breaks on the ball because he is already inside. If
                            Vikings GM- Everybody is open

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                            • 2 Round Mock Draft by FFToolbox....

                              2023 TOP 200 Fantasy Football Rankings, TOP 200 PPR Cheatsheets TOP 200 PPR Draft / Draft Rankings


                              has us taking jesse williams n larry warford G kentucky 6'3 343lbs. would both help us improve in the run game...

                              other guy there has us taking jesse willams n margus hunt DE smu 6'8 272 wow...

                              if were available id rather have floyd short or sylvester williams better disruptors IMO...

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                              • We don't need Dallas Clark. If anything we need youth at TE. If we get a Hartline we don't need to resign Stokley for sure. I want nothing to do with Glenn Dorsey! He's a bust! The players on your F/A list I like the most are Michael Johnson and Byrd! if we get these guys, it's on! our pass rush would be devastating! And our secondary would immediately be set! Byrd in my opinion is the best FS in football!
                                Last edited by 98_Elway_Drive; 01-20-2013, 06:18 PM.

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