Broncos position of need: Cornerbacks

[AdamWeberOrBust]

Not this year...you just made a kneejerk reaction as well

Champ went against #1's all year last year on an island...sorry but Harris can't do that

I love Chris Harris, he's a great talent, but he's an ideal nickel back, and a very good #2 ...so many ppl take what Champ does for granted

He had a bad game ...(also could've been given offensive PI on both touchdowns when I rewatched them) ...but that doesn't discredit his whole season before that

Replace him in a few years, yeah, but not right now

Yes who was the guy that had 2 pick sixes? Who was the guy that shut down Anquan Boldin for the first time in many years?

Who was the guy that PFF ranked as 5th in the league?

[#24 Next Champ]

I really do not see this as a weakness at all.......Champ is still solid... He still gets the job done better than all but a handful of other CB's. Harris played awesome...But I think another year or 2 is needed before he is ready. With Carter and Bolden I think we have solid depth....... Now if you want to talk S....Then there is a weakness. But DT, MLB, and S are the real need positions on this D

Agree except I think Champ's still better than most even in the handful and Harris is as good as it gets at nickel and very good outside as well

But completely agree that the other areas need attention before CB

[Kansas Bob]

I think we ought to fortify the CB position this year since IMO it is a good year (draft wise) for CB's.

[MHSalute]

Chris Harris's best attribute is press man-man coverage

That completely leaves as an FS, why would we do that?

In base, the FS can still come up and press cover. Even as a CB, Harris did not always play press as we use quite a bit of off man and zone coverage schemes. The most effective way to run a defense imo is to be able to hide coverages. Harris' ability to play press from a FS position would only allow us to disguise coverages more. If we have a man free coverage call, Moore can be the one in CF or Harris, that is the point of having interchangeable guys at safety.

I think the talent to play press adds to Harris ability to be a great FS, not detracts from it. Most FS can not play press as they can not turn and recover.

[#24 Next Champ]

Yes who was the guy that had 2 pick sixes? Who was the guy that shut down Anquan Boldin for the first time in many years?

Who was the guy that PFF ranked as 5th in the league?

Okay, first off, Anquan Boldin sucks...Champ would've shut him down with ease, Boldin made some great catches on their run, yeah but also against some eh CB's, none as good as Champ or Harris

But Boldin is slow as hell and not a great route runner, Champ shut VJax down to 3rec for like 30yds, Andre Johnson to ONE CATCH for 10yds, Josh Gordon 0 catches, Dwayne Bowe to nothing twice (granted without a QB), Steve Smith of CAR to like 2 catches

PFF.COM DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR WHO'S BEING COVERED ....Harris was great, I'm not knocking him, he's extremely underrated imo...but there's a reason they put Champ on #1's on an island, while Harris takes 2's and 3's with safety help

Smith got him on a frigid day n also could've easily gotten offensive PI if the official could see what happened inside on the 2nd TD...bad day for Champ, sure...extremely rare? Yeah

[AdamWeberOrBust]

Okay, first off, Anquan Boldin sucks...Champ would've shut him down with ease, Boldin made some great catches on their run, yeah but also against some eh CB's, none as good as Champ or Harris

But Boldin is slow as hell and not a great route runner, Champ shut VJax down to 3rec for like 30yds, Andre Johnson to ONE CATCH for 10yds, Josh Gordon 0 catches, Dwayne Bowe to nothing twice (granted without a QB), Steve Smith of CAR to like 2 catches

PFF.COM DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR WHO'S BEING COVERED ....Harris was great, I'm not knocking him, he's extremely underrated imo...but there's a reason they put Champ on #1's on an island, while Harris takes 2's and 3's with safety help

Smith got him on a frigid day n also could've easily gotten offensive PI if the official could see what happened inside on the 2nd TD...bad day for Champ, sure...extremely rare? Yeah

I've not said anything about Champ being bad at all. All I said was that if someone was to be replaced between Champ and Harris it would be Champ and that's because of age not talent.

Another thing is that because Champ shuts down almost every one, the QB tends to throw towards the other guy so the fact that Chris is probably the only corner to play consistently great opposite Champ indicates how talented the guy really is.

Also, to just throw the achievement of Harris shutting down Boldin without a catch for the first time in 5 years or so down like that because Boldin is "bad" and "slow" is really selling Harris short. If Boldin is so bad and slow why is Harris the only guy to do it in years?

Sure he is "Extremely Underrated" and possibly the best nickel corner in the league but he's also emerging as one of the best corners in the league full stop. Sure I may sound like a total homer but no-one else here is giving him the break he deserves.

[ERoyal248]

Gotta disagree, right on with jap.

CB isn't a HUGE need.

- Harris to S, no, he proved he's more than capable of playing outside or nickel CB.
- Carter played about as well as a #3 CB could play this year.
- Despite the Ravens game, Champ had a very solid season, and is a top 10 CB still today.

Now, i wouldn't mind adding someone in the draft like Trufant or Rhodes, someone in the 2nd-4th rounds would work too if they go in a different direction in the 1st. Provided they don't get someone via FA either.

I pray to god we don't get Revis, would be beyond stupid. He's wanting to be near the top paid players in the league, and we'll need to give that type of deal to Miller in a few years hopefully among some other players too who need new deals...

[ERoyal248]

And agree with AdamWeber, Harris is ridiculousally underrated.

I don't think he's a #1 by any means but he had a hell of a year.

[JayJack]

The Jerry Rice just said on NFL Live that a good fit for Revis would be the Broncos. He said that pairing Revis up with Chris Harris and Tony Carter would be a good move. He said that it would give us another shut down CB and that Champ is getting old and a little long in the tooth.

I would hate this move, mainly because of the financials, but Roland is definately a concern in my opinion.

[ZeusOnEarth]

When the receivers are getting faster, stronger, and more numerous how can you say we don't need CB help. Champ may retire in 1 or 2 years, Harris can be a good #2 but a great 3, Carter a good #3 but better dime. At the end of the day we need the best 11. At CB, I say Champ, a young promising CB at #2, and Harris are our best 3 options. Bolden may even take Carter's spot in all honesty. And when Champ retires, we'll have the young stud, Harris, and Carter/Bolden as 1, 2, 3. This is about the future of the franchise, not just the present. John Elway knows this, why do you think we took Brock Osweiler in the second AFTER we got Peyton. As for S, we don't need MORE inexperienced youth back there, think about what you're saying. Smh.

[crash123go]

Chris Harris played "above his means"?

I'm sorry but that's baloney.

I agree. The assessment on Chris Harris is false. After being inserted in as a starting cb he was easily our best cb the second half of the season. I love everyone that says they don't want revis cause of his contract lmao so you don't want a guy who if he continues to play at his elite level will retire as the best CB to ever play the game. Right I would easily make that decision to get him

[#24 Next Champ]

When the receivers are getting faster, stronger, and more numerous how can you say we don't need CB help. Champ may retire in 1 or 2 years, Harris can be a good #2 but a great 3, Carter a good #3 but better dime. At the end of the day we need the best 11. At CB, I say Champ, a young promising CB at #2, and Harris are our best 3 options. Bolden may even take Carter's spot in all honesty. And when Champ retires, we'll have the young stud, Harris, and Carter/Bolden as 1, 2, 3. This is about the future of the franchise, not just the present. John Elway knows this, why do you think we took Brock Osweiler in the second AFTER we got Peyton. As for S, we don't need MORE inexperienced youth back there, think about what you're saying. Smh.

Bolden isn't taking anyone's spot, he was a bad pick imo and it's clear that Carter is better

Rice is wrong about Revis, as ERoyal mentioned we gotta give that type of deal to Von soon as well as DT

I'm all for drafting or getting a good CB in FA (I've always thought DRC was an outstanding talent, but he's stupid like his bro n doesn't work hard to be as great as he could be) but anyhow ...I'm all for adding someone, but it'd be hard to find anyone who could replace any 3 in our trio IMO

And Bolden sucks, bad pick imo, we do need another CB for the future imo in next year's draft would be more ideal

DT is a bigger need AGAIN!!!!!

[crash123go]

Bolden isn't taking anyone's spot, he was a bad pick imo and it's clear that Carter is better

Rice is wrong about Revis, as ERoyal mentioned we gotta give that type of deal to Von soon as well as DT

I'm all for drafting or getting a good CB in FA (I've always thought DRC was an outstanding talent, but he's stupid like his bro n doesn't work hard to be as great as he could be) but anyhow ...I'm all for adding someone, but it'd be hard to find anyone who could replace any 3 in our trio IMO

And Bolden sucks, bad pick imo, we do need another CB for the future imo in next year's draft would be more ideal

DT is a bigger need AGAIN!!!!!

Bolden was coming off a year without football. All the fans who instantly judge a player on their first couple years don't understand much about building a roster, bolden could EASILY improve to be 3 times the corner he was his rookie year just as Chris Harris and tony carter did. Any player can always improve if they work for it

[JayJack]

Bolden was coming off a year without football. All the fans who instantly judge a player on their first couple years don't understand much about building a roster, bolden could EASILY improve to be 3 times the corner he was his rookie year just as Chris Harris and tony carter did. Any player can always improve if they work for it

I didn't see Bolden play in College at all, but from what I saw on youtube, it wasn't a pick to be excited about. Just my opinion.

[Den615]

Gotta disagree, right on with jap.

CB isn't a HUGE need.

- Harris to S, no, he proved he's more than capable of playing outside or nickel CB.
- Carter played about as well as a #3 CB could play this year.
- Despite the Ravens game, Champ had a very solid season, and is a top 10 CB still today.

Now, i wouldn't mind adding someone in the draft like Trufant or Rhodes, someone in the 2nd-4th rounds would work too if they go in a different direction in the 1st. Provided they don't get someone via FA either.

I pray to god we don't get Revis, would be beyond stupid. He's wanting to be near the top paid players in the league, and we'll need to give that type of deal to Miller in a few years hopefully among some other players too who need new deals...

I agree with this 100%. I think CB is a need, but not a demanding one. If a CB is the best player available when we draft I would have no problem taking one, but I would prefer to take one in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I love Revis as a player, but it seems like he holds out every offseason. Considering the draft pick compensation and contract it would take to land him I just dont think it is worth it. Even if we are in "win now" mode I still think it is a bad idea.

Bolden isn't taking anyone's spot, he was a bad pick imo and it's clear that Carter is better

And Bolden sucks, bad pick imo, we do need another CB for the future imo in next year's draft would be more ideal

I wouldn't write off Bolden just yet. When training camp opens he should be in great shape after an offseason in an NFL conditioning program and being two years removed from his knee injury. You might not be high on him, but it appears Elway and company are. Elway even went as far as saying that he expects Bolden to compete for a starting job next season. Now I'm not saying we should expect him to take the #2 job and move Harris to the slot, but I think it is far too early to call him a bad pick.