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    It's Saturday night, and as pathetic as it sounds I'm sitting at home with the wife and kid in bed, drinking some cold Coors Lights, and watching NFL Combine coverage. I love to mock, I love to dream up different scenarios that might make the Broncos better. Most of the mocks I come up with are based on my preferences, and are not very realistic. Well I think this one might be more of the direction the Broncos are heading in. I could be wrong, but hey, this is just for fun and to cure some boredom anyways, so its not crucial. Enjoy!

    Cuts:

    G Chris Kuper
    LB D.J. Williams
    LB Joe Mays


    Lets start out with the players we cut. I like Kuper but keep hearing we want to move Franklin inside, making Kuper a high-priced back-up. I think we will approach him to re-structure, but Kupe, knowing a guy like Mike Shanahan will pay him top dollar, will just demand his outright release, I think we grant him that wish. Williams is done in Denver, he makes too much money, has a checkered history off the field, and has zero ties to the new regime. I truly feel from what i've been reading that Nate Irving and Steve Johnson are the guys Foxy and Elway want competing at MIKE, leaving Mays and his moderately large salary taking up too much space, time to cut him loose.

    Tenders:

    OT Chris Clark
    DT Mitch Unrein
    CB Tony Carter
    P Britton Colquitt


    I think it is imperative that we keep these 4 guys. Clark and Colquitt we can stick a low round tender on, but I think we need to stick relatively high tenders on Carter and Unrein or someone will snatch them up, I like both, and think they both have bright futures.

    Let go:

    RB Lance Ball
    RB Chris Gronkowski
    WR Jason Hill
    G Tony Hills
    C Dan Koppen
    DE Jason Hunter
    DT Kevin Vickerson
    DT Justin Bannan
    DT Ty Warren


    Of this group I think the biggest losses will be Koppen and Vickerson. Fox has already said Walton is the starter, and they seem high on Phillip Blake so I think they are set at Center. I think Vickerson will want a big payday, he was good this past season, but there were times he dissapeared. While I'd love to see him stay, I think we let him walk. The rest can be easily replaced and I dont think we'll make a real attempt to keep.

    Re-structure:

    DE Elvis Dumervil

    I'm not saying Doom needs to take a paycut, I'm saying Denver will approach him about a different way to distribute the money, to save money against the cap.

    Free Agent Signings:

    WR Brandon Stokley (1 yr)
    WR Steve Breaston (3 yrs)
    OT Ryan Clady (Franchise tag)
    OT Jeff Otah (3 yrs)
    DT Richard Seymour (1 yr)
    CB Ronde Barber (1 yr)

    Here we go, let the slamming begin. My thoughts are this; From what I'm hearing, Stokley wants to come back, I say we sign him to a 1 yr deal on the cheap. I think we bring in another slot guy to compete with and maybe learn from Stokley, enter Breaston, he's a perfect slot guy for this offense and can offer the breakaway threat we need from the position, dont think he'll be all that expensive either. I think we will move Franklin to Guard, especially if we cut Kuper loose. If this happens we will leave a huge void at RT. Otah was drafted by John Fox, has been a solid RT but not overly impressive for where he was drafted. He is a good pass protector, maybe a little better than Franklin in that regard, and a solid run-blocker. Sliding Franklin inside and adding Otah will fortify the right side imo. Seymour is EXACTLY what we need at DT, a guy that is nasty, can push the pocket, and fire up a defense. He will be pricey, but well worth it on a 1 year deal. I dont think CB is as big of a need as some around here do, we are very young at the position and there is tons of potential on the roster. Fox loves his vets, and I think a veteran precense like Barber will do wonders for Harris and Carter, I dont think he'll be real expensive and will want one more shot at a ring. Bring him in as a #3 or 4 CB.

    Draft:

    ***Trade*** I have this feeling that we will trade out of the 1st round, I can see a team like Arizona or KC wanting to move up to take a QB like Matt Barkley, so lets just say we trade down to the mid to late 30s, and gain a 4th rounder in the process.

    2.* S Eric Reid (LSU) 6'2" 212 lbs
    I love Rahim Moore, despite one of the most boneheaded plays i've ever seen, but I am not sold on Mike Adams next to him and think Elway would love the opportunity to add an Atwater type next to Rahim. Reid is a playmaker at Safety, he's ferocious, has great range, and can bang in the box with the best of them. Reid and Moore will give us an incredible, young safety duo for years to come. Not completely sure how Carter will return from injury, I think Reid is better than Carter anyways.

    2. DT Sylvester Williams (NC) 6'3" 313 lbs
    After letting Vickerson and Bannan walk, we need to replace them. I think the idea will be to slide Wolfe down inside with Seymour, and let Ayers man the LDE position, ideally. However, with Unrein as the only backup at DT we need some serious depth. Williams is a guy that could flirt with the 1st round, but there is always some DTs that fall a bit, if Williams slides to pick 60, its a no-brainer.

    3. DE Cornellius Carradine (Fla. St) 6'4" 265 lbs
    Where will this guy go? With his injury I think this about the spot where he will go. With Doom, Ayers, Jackson, and possibly Wolfe we have solid depth at DE, but I think we will take advantage of a deep draft class and pluck a mid-round DE for the right side behind Doom. Carradine is quick, has great pass rush moves, and would fill in nicely if Doom were to get hurt.

    4.* MLB Kiko Alonso (Ore.) 6'3" 242 lbs.
    We continue to add youth and depth to the defense here. I think Elway and co. will be looking to add some more competition at MLB but wont spend a high pick to do so. Alonso is a good value here, and could wind up winning the startig gig with his football smarts.

    4. RB Lonnie Pryor (Fla. St) 6'0" 230 lbs.
    Fox has said we will add a power back at some point. It really seems they feel Hillman can possibly become a #1 back. I think McGahee and Moreno stick around for another year because they are both fairly cheap, but where is the power back? Enter Pryor, this guy hurts people when he actually gets the chance to run, and lead blocks as good as any FB in this draft. I'm not sure what our offensive plans are for the FB, but he could be a very versatile addition as he can play both FB and RB.

    5. G Hugh Thornton (Ill.) 6'3" 320 lbs.
    We will add o-line depth in this draft, Thornton is flat out nasty in the run game. A nice #4 interior lineman and a possible future starter.

    7. WR Brandon Kauffman (E. Wash) 6'4" 215 lbs.
    This guy has been incredibly productive at the college level. A big, physical receiver that will be an insurance policy in case we cant resign Thomas or Decker in a couple of years.

    There we have it, I'm 12 beers deep so go easy. Dont be afraid to let me know what you think though.

  • #2
    2013 Depth Chart

    QB - Peyton Manning, Brock Osweiler, Caleb Hanie
    RB- Ronnie Hillman, Knowshon Moreno, Willis McGahee
    FB- Lonnie Pryor
    WR- DeMaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Steve Breaston, Brandon Stokley
    TE- Jacob Tamme, Joel Dreessen, Virgil Green
    OT- Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Clark, Ryan Harris
    G- Zane Beadles, Orlando Franklin, Manny Ramirez, Hugh Thornton
    C- J.D. Walton, Phil Blake

    DT- Richard Seymour, Derek Wolfe, Mitch Unrein, Sylvester Williams
    DE- Elvis Dumervil, Robert Ayers, Malik Jackson, Cornellius Carradine
    MLB- Nate Irving, Kiko Alonso
    OLB- Wesley Woodyard, Von Miller, Steve Johnson
    CB- Champ Bailey, Chris Harris, Tony Carter, Omar Bolden, Ronde Barber
    S- Rahim Moore, Eric Reid, Mike Adams, Quinton Carter

    K- Matt Prater

    P- Britton Colquitt

    KR- Trindon Holliday

    Here's is my projected depth chart for 2013, give me your thoughts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KWHIT97 View Post
      2013 Depth Chart

      QB - Peyton Manning, Brock Osweiler, Caleb Hanie
      RB- Ronnie Hillman, Knowshon Moreno, Willis McGahee
      FB- Lonnie Pryor
      WR- DeMaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Steve Breaston, Brandon Stokley
      TE- Jacob Tamme, Joel Dreessen, Virgil Green
      OT- Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Clark, Ryan Harris
      G- Zane Beadles, Orlando Franklin, Manny Ramirez, Hugh Thornton
      C- J.D. Walton, Phil Blake

      DT- Richard Seymour, Derek Wolfe, Mitch Unrein, Sylvester Williams
      DE- Elvis Dumervil, Robert Ayers, Malik Jackson, Cornellius Carradine
      MLB- Nate Irving, Kiko Alonso
      OLB- Wesley Woodyard, Von Miller, Steve Johnson
      CB- Champ Bailey, Chris Harris, Tony Carter, Omar Bolden, Ronde Barber
      S- Rahim Moore, Eric Reid, Mike Adams, Quinton Carter

      K- Matt Prater

      P- Britton Colquitt

      KR- Trindon Holliday

      Here's is my projected depth chart for 2013, give me your thoughts.
      Overall, I like it. Here are a few of my thoughts:

      Dislikes:
      1) I don't think McGahee will be back.
      2) If Ronde Barber comes back to play I think he stays with the Bucs
      3) I really doubt we cut Kuper this year. Since he's under contract for fairly cheap for 1 more year, I don't see why we would. At the very least he'd be good depth if he gets beat out in camp.
      4) Not a big fan of Breaston. Would rather have WR out of this draft.
      5) I dont see Ryan Harris coming back, is he even a free agent?

      Likes:

      1) Jeff Otah could be a great addition if he's back in shape. Can he play right tackle? I know usually those who play left can play right but not 100% of the time. I'm not informed enough to know.
      2) Moving Franklin to guard would be ideal if Otah works out, and Kuper still isn't good to go.
      3) Your draft is pretty good. I like the positions, not a big fan of Reid.
      Overall, not bad
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      • #4
        Love the draft. Eric reid would be a huuuge upgrade over adams. But ronde barber? We have enough age as it is in champ we need some young players in the secondary. I dont see us getting rid of mcgahee. I see us getting rid of moreno before 23.

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        • #5
          Botan's Mid Combine Mock

          Cuts:
          D.J. Williams
          Willis McGahee
          Matt Willis
          Chris Gronkowski
          Lance Ball
          Joe Mays
          Andre Caldwell

          Tender:
          Tony Carter
          Britton Colquitt
          Mitch Unrein
          Chris Clark

          Re-Sign:
          Kevin Vickerson 3yr
          Brandon Stokely 1yr
          Dan Koppen 1yr
          David Bruton 3 yr

          Free Agency:

          OT Jeff Otah Bring him in and see what he has in the tank. He should be able to compete at RT, pushing Franklin to guard if Kuper doesn't come back 100% Credit KWHIT97 for this idea.

          WR Austin Collie: I know people are scared of his concussion and injury issues. But bring him in on a 1 year vet minimum deal. He's got experience with Manning and is a low risk high reward signing. I have no idea how this doesn't make 100% sense to kick the tires.

          S Charles Woodson: I don't care what Elway says about Rahim Moore. Even if Moore remains our starter, this guy could come in and do some special things against tight ends and in certain passing situations. He shouldn't demand that much, and could be signed on a 1 or 2 year deal. He could also compete with Adams and Carter for the other safety spot



          Franchise Ryan Clady: No brainer

          Mock Draft:

          1) DT Kawann Short - Purdue: Strong stout DT who is good against the run, and gets a good push. He gets a bit gassed, but I trust our coaches can get him in better shape.

          2)RB Stepfan Taylor Stanford: At 216 Taylor is bigger running back who can pass block and catch out of the backfield.

          3)WR Markus Wheaton Oregon State: Yes, a wide receiver. Although we added Collie, here's someone who's a good route runner, and can play the slot in case Collie and Stokely don't work out or get injured.

          4)CB B.W. Webb William & Mary: A competitior and team leader. He's someone who can come in and compete with Tony Carter and Bolden.

          5)ILB Vince Williams FSU - A hard hitting MLB who really played well at the senior bowl. I know the coaching staff said they'd like Steven Johnson and Irving to compete for a spot, but I have a feeling they're bringing in more competition.

          7)S Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse: One of my sleepers who could come in and surprise. A hard hitting competitor.


          Depth Chart:

          QB: Manning, Osweiler
          RB: Stepfan Taylor, Knowshon Moreno, Ronnie Hillman
          FB: Jacob Hester
          TE: Joel Dreesen, Jacob Tamme, Virgil Green, Julius Thomas
          WR: Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Brandon Stokely, Austin Collie, Markus Wheaton
          OT: Ryan Clady, Orlando Franklin, Jeff Otah, Chris Clark
          OG: Zane Beadles, Chris Kuper, Manny Ramirez, Philip Blake
          C:J.D. Walton, Dan Koppen

          DE: Elvis Dumervil, Derek Wolfe, Robert Ayers, Jeremy Beal
          DT: Kevin Vickerson, Kawann Short,Mitch Unrein, Malik Jackson,
          WLB: Wesley Woodyard, Danny Trevathan
          MLB: Steven Johnson, Vince Williams
          SLB: Von Miller, Nate Irving
          CB: Champ Bailey, Chris Harris, Omar Bolden, Tony Carter, B.W. Webb
          S:Rahim Moore, Charles Woodson, Mike Adams, Quinton Carter, David Bruton

          K: Matt Prater
          P: Britton Colquitt
          LS:Aaron Brewer
          KR/PR: Trindon Holliday

          PS:
          Shamarko Thomas
          Duke Ihenacho
          etc
          etc
          Last edited by Botan; 02-23-2013, 11:45 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Botan View Post

            1) Jeff Otah could be a great addition if he's back in shape. Can he play right tackle? I know usually those who play left can play right but not 100% of the time. I'm not informed enough to know.
            Jeff Otah has never played LT in the NFL. He was always a RT in Carolina.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Den615 View Post
              Jeff Otah has never played LT in the NFL. He was always a RT in Carolina.
              Oh, I'm not sure how I didn't know that. Thanks! Well that'd be great if he came in and pushed Franklin inside. While I don't think we should cut Kuper this year, I've got a feeling he's not going to be the same.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Botan View Post
                Oh, I'm not sure how I didn't know that. Thanks! Well that'd be great if he came in and pushed Franklin inside. While I don't think we should cut Kuper this year, I've got a feeling he's not going to be the same.
                Yeah I know what you mean. I love Kuper, but we cant count on him. But yeah Carolina always had Jordan Gross at LT I think. If Otah is healthy and motivated he would be a great pickup.

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                • #9
                  I like the overall feel of this draft...not reaching for anyone and adding quality depth BUT, way too much analysis for a drunken mock! You need to drink more...lol!

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                  • #10
                    Ryan Harris plays for the Texans? Doesn't he?
                    All in for Siemian!

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                    • #11
                      "my drunkin draft"! DJ is that you???? lol I believe you cut way too many DL and I also believe Kuper will come back next season strong as ever!
                      Thanks for posting this draft.

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                      • #12
                        Love this draft IF you will switch Wheaton with Taylor. Wheaton won't be there that late in the third.
                        Good job!

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                        • #13
                          I would be satisfied with those free agents added to the broncos.Overall,you did a good job on this draft.I have 2 players i have my eye on in the draft

                          1.Jarvis Jones LB Georgia
                          2.Andre Ellington RB Clemson

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                          • #14
                            In my view, this is the best Mock I have read.

                            In my view, I think they will get rid of Moreno and I think they should. Moreno is an average back that will give them a half a season if history is any measure.

                            I recently read Shonn Greene is on the Broncos radar screen as is Steven Jackson. I would love to see this backfield: Jackson, Greene, Taylor and Hillman.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AdamWeberOrBust View Post
                              Ryan Harris plays for the Texans? Doesn't he?
                              Yes and he played well for them. He's not coming back to Denver to be a backup. He'll likely stay in Houston.

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