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  • Mr. Chaz
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    Lacy in the first would be unnecessary and a flat out bad move. The talent gap between Lacy and someone like Le'Veon Bell isn't big enough to pay him 1st round money, he isn't a game-changing, DOMINANT RB. And before anyone starts railing on about how he is, any back could look good with the o-line he had in front of him.

    I don't think a cornerback early would be as out of the question (after we got DRC) as some. For all we know DRC ends up continuing to purely rely on his natural abilities which in turn results in average to inconsistent play. Unless he turns his **** around we can NOT count on him. Chris Harris is a monster, no one is unseating him (or Champ). Tony Carter played really really well, but he struggles with big physical receivers (love the kid but he's 5'9 180) and isn't a long term solution. The staff seems really convinced Omar Bolden is going to get some playing time, but he looked a little lost in coverage last year.

    There are still a few question marks, and a scarcity of long term answers (C. Harris not included) at the CB spot.

    Could definately see a Safety in the first 3 picks.
    Last edited by Mr. Chaz; 03-14-2013, 01:30 PM.

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  • MHSalute
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248
    Fisher, Joeckel, Johnson are the only real top LT's.

    After them, it gets real, real thin.

    CB or S is possible, but do teams carry 6 CB's?

    I suppose MLB could get a look too, i do think they will take a long look at Te'o if he's there at 28.

    I agree with crash, i think outside of RB and maybe OG/C, this will be a heavy defensive draft.
    I think we have covered enough holes to contemplate moving up and jumping in front of SD for Johnson or taking Terron Armstead at #28. I really do not see Armstead as a reach at #28, he could go higher.

    I have gone through this before, but the hardline we are taking with Doom has me even more convinced a long term deal will not get done with Clady. Elway assessed his value, offered him a contract and Clady said no. I do not see that sitting well with Elway. Then Clady says he will sign the Tag later, another snub towards the team.

    Not saying this will happen, but if we get Johnson and he performs well in camp, Clady gets dealt this summer. If not he plays under tag.

    We all know the guys we need to resign next year. Clady's demands pay for Decker, Beadles, and Harris all by itself.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by MHSalute
    QB - NO
    RB - No value at pick
    WR - Depends on if they plan on paying both our guys.
    TE - No, our guys are still young and here for two more years.
    OT - Yes, but I do not feel Clady gets long term deal.
    OG - No
    C - No
    DE - Likely
    DT - Likely unless Bannan re-signs.
    OLB - Maybe if they plan to move Von to RDE in future.
    MLB - Doubtful, we have 7 LBs already, but if they love Teo it could happen.
    CB - Likely, most teams carry 6 and Champ and DRC could both be gone in a year.
    S - Highest probability imo

    I see us doing one of three things:

    1. Trading up to get a LT
    2. Trading down and taking a S and LT with 1st 2 picks.
    3. Staying put and taking a CB/S
    Fisher, Joeckel, Johnson are the only real top LT's.

    After them, it gets real, real thin.

    CB or S is possible, but do teams carry 6 CB's?

    I suppose MLB could get a look too, i do think they will take a long look at Te'o if he's there at 28.

    I agree with crash, i think outside of RB and maybe OG/C, this will be a heavy defensive draft.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by JayJack
    Man, it's so many ways we could go, but I think OC Travis Frederick has a strong chance of being the pick. I'm not sure where we are, or will be with the Cap next year, but with some key re-signing needing to get done next year (Woodyard, Harris, Decker, and possibly Clady, DRC, and Ayers depending on how he does with the chances he gets) i'm not convinced that we would re-sign JD.
    Or Barrett Jones?

    But yeah, we have a LOT of key players up for new deals in the next couple years, some are probably gonna have to be let go.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog
    I can see it only because Tony Carter and DRC are FA's next season. Harris is RFA and Champ will be a year older.
    Carter is a RFA actually next year.

    I agree we need a long-term solution after Champ but we need someone to make an impact NOW.

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  • MHSalute
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    Originally posted by crash123go
    Lol that's funny

    Yep was told it was funny when I said Doom was a 7M a year guy...I'm full of jokes.

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by MHSalute
    QB - NO
    RB - No value at pick
    WR - Depends on if they plan on paying both our guys.
    TE - No, our guys are still young and here for two more years.
    OT - Yes, but I do not feel Clady gets long term deal.
    OG - No
    C - No
    DE - Likely
    DT - Likely unless Bannan re-signs.
    OLB - Maybe if they plan to move Von to RDE in future.
    MLB - Doubtful, we have 7 LBs already, but if they love Teo it could happen.
    CB - Likely, most teams carry 6 and Champ and DRC could both be gone in a year.
    S - Highest probability imo

    I see us doing one of three things:

    1. Trading up to get a LT
    2. Trading down and taking a S and LT with 1st 2 picks.
    3. Staying put and taking a CB/S
    Lol that's funny

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  • MHSalute
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    QB - NO
    RB - No value at pick
    WR - Depends on if they plan on paying both our guys.
    TE - No, our guys are still young and here for two more years.
    OT - Yes, but I do not feel Clady gets long term deal.
    OG - No
    C - No
    DE - Likely
    DT - Likely unless Bannan re-signs.
    OLB - Maybe if they plan to move Von to RDE in future.
    MLB - Doubtful, we have 7 LBs already, but if they love Teo it could happen.
    CB - Likely, most teams carry 6 and Champ and DRC could both be gone in a year.
    S - Highest probability imo

    I see us doing one of three things:

    1. Trading up to get a LT
    2. Trading down and taking a S and LT with 1st 2 picks.
    3. Staying put and taking a CB/S

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by JayJack
    Man, it's so many ways we could go, but I think OC Travis Frederick has a strong chance of being the pick. I'm not sure where we are, or will be with the Cap next year, but with some key re-signing needing to get done next year (Woodyard, Harris, Decker, and possibly Clady, DRC, and Ayers depending on how he does with the chances he gets) i'm not convinced that we would re-sign JD.
    I was thinking this as well. Elway wants to run a power scheme and wants to be able to ram the ball down people's throats and a big boy like this would do just that with our new RG

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  • JayJack
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    Man, it's so many ways we could go, but I think OC Travis Frederick has a strong chance of being the pick. I'm not sure where we are, or will be with the Cap next year, but with some key re-signing needing to get done next year (Woodyard, Harris, Decker, and possibly Clady, DRC, and Ayers depending on how he does with the chances he gets) i'm not convinced that we would re-sign JD.

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  • 15thebeast
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    If Werner is there I would live to take him his stock has fallen due to a slow 40 but on tape he is a beast and would give us another pass rusher on defence

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by causticon
    CB? They drafted Bolden last year. I can see a CB, but high? Where's he gonna play this year?
    You can never have enough cb especially nowadays. Not high but in the first 4 rounds I could see happening. Injuries do happen and with young good cb we could play champ at safety in SUM sub-packages

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  • Matymaddog
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    Originally posted by causticon
    CB? They drafted Bolden last year. I can see a CB, but high? Where's he gonna play this year?
    I can see it only because Tony Carter and DRC are FA's next season. Harris is RFA and Champ will be a year older.

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  • causticon
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    Originally posted by crash123go
    I expect to see a HEAVY defensive draft outside of a second round pick on montee ball or Le'veon Bell. Wouldn't be surprised to see pass rushers and CB as the focus. The more guys we can get to go after the QB the better!
    CB? They drafted Bolden last year. I can see a CB, but high? Where's he gonna play this year?

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  • crash123go
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    I expect to see a HEAVY defensive draft outside of a second round pick on montee ball or Le'veon Bell. Wouldn't be surprised to see pass rushers and CB as the focus. The more guys we can get to go after the QB the better!

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