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  • Idiot_Kicker
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    I say draft Avery Williamson in the middle rounds, and have him battle it out with Nate Irving and Steven Johnson to be the starter. I personally like Johnson, and would not be surprised to see him get his shot now that he enters year three

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  • Idiot_Kicker
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    Originally posted by causticon View Post
    I completely agree with this. He's really the only true 3 down ILB in the draft for a 4-3. I'm not convinced Shazier can play middle.
    Yeah, but Mosley is not a true 4-3 ILB. He was an ILB in a 3-4, big difference as he has help in that scheme and does not have to take on blockers as much directly, which a 4-3 MIKE does. All in all, not impressed with Mosley and hopefully he ends up elsewhere

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by champ&dreallday View Post
    I can't buy that. If that was the case, he never would've been ranked that high. From the beginning, the Bama hype would've factored in. From the report which surfaced after Bama's pro day, was there some uncertainty about his knee. His stock only dropped after this was reported.
    Look at their history of players drafted. All of them except 2 have been extremely overrated and drafted a full 1-2 rounds too early. 2 out of 30+ in the past 6-7 years. That's because their players weaknesses were masked in their schemes by the overall talent of the team.

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  • champ&dreallday
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
    It's not that.

    It's because he went to Bama and the hype they get when they come out, a lot of their prospects dont pan out right away.

    Good, sure, maybe worth taking at 31, but it would depend who else is on the board.
    I can't buy that. If that was the case, he never would've been ranked that high. From the beginning, the Bama hype would've factored in. From the report which surfaced after Bama's pro day, was there some uncertainty about his knee. His stock only dropped after this was reported.

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  • FrostySeamus
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    Williamson can push to be a day 1 starter. I know that might sound crazy to some of you but I truly believe it. He is being severely undervalued by the "experts."

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by causticon View Post
    I'm researching all of them because I think ILB is by far our biggest need. I like Avery Williamson, but only as a project with upside while providing special teams. Tripp and Smith both project more as OLB's. I like Skov in 3rd/4th round more than a lot bigger names. The problem is, if we get a 2-down thumper, who's going to play nickel LB?
    Linebacker isnt about being a thumper. Ask any offensive lineman or offensive line coach what they fear more, a big strong linebacker or a athletic linebacker with elite agility? they fear agility. the ability to take on offensive lineman can be taught through technique and using the proper base so a guy like Tripp or Smith can perform at the same level as bigger, stronger MLB prospects if they use proper technique.

    You like Mosley but think Williamson is a project? you do know Williamson played in the SEC just like Mosley, out performed Mosley's combine numbers and was in the top 10 in the FBS 2 years in a row in tackles.

    we would be lucky to land a talent like Jordan Tripp who in my honest opinion compares very much to Luke Keuchly type talent at linebacker. If he wouldve went to a big time football program he would be the top linebacker in this draft

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by causticon View Post
    I'm researching all of them because I think ILB is by far our biggest need. I like Avery Williamson, but only as a project with upside while providing special teams. Tripp and Smith both project more as OLB's. I like Skov in 3rd/4th round more than a lot bigger names. The problem is, if we get a 2-down thumper, who's going to play nickel LB?
    This guy.

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  • Iron Clady
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    Mosley has some stud characteristics. He's not getting overhyped on these boards. He has impressive instincts and range, especially in pass coverage. He's also a leader.

    Read these comparisons from NFL professional personnel men:


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...-remind-you-of

    However, his health is a major concern. And he's not great at taking on blockers because he's tall and skinny. He probably fits best as a 43 Will to be honest. He may slip on draft day for a few of those reasons.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by champ&dreallday View Post
    I don't know about that. Mosley was getting hyped by draft analysts and the media. He's very legit and seems NFL ready at MLB. His stock is only dropping becaue of possible knee injury, similar to Lacy.
    It's not that.

    It's because he went to Bama and the hype they get when they come out, a lot of their prospects dont pan out right away.

    Good, sure, maybe worth taking at 31, but it would depend who else is on the board.

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  • causticon
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    I'm researching all of them because I think ILB is by far our biggest need. I like Avery Williamson, but only as a project with upside while providing special teams. Tripp and Smith both project more as OLB's. I like Skov in 3rd/4th round more than a lot bigger names. The problem is, if we get a 2-down thumper, who's going to play nickel LB?

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by causticon View Post
    Borland is slow and doesn't cover well. Ha with everything else. You just don't like him. Your arguments have no basis.
    and how much of the other players have you watched or read about? I'd bet pretty much zero. you have formed a opinion off of just liking Mosley and doing no other research of the other linebackers in this draft.

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  • causticon
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    Originally posted by crash123go View Post
    Not true. Borland has the same talent level as Mosley to be a 3down MLB, Avery Williamson looks like a more talented 3 down linebacker then both, while guys Telvin smith and Jordan Tripp both have a higher ceiling then Mosley.

    Mosley is dropping because of injury history and the fact he was originally over valued as a Alabama product. Mosley is a late 2nd/3rd round prospect too me.
    Borland is slow and doesn't cover well. Ha with everything else. You just don't like him. Your arguments have no basis.

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
    Not surprising, Mosely is getting overhyped on this board.
    I am getting on a computer right now, I owe you already like 4 cp

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by causticon View Post
    I completely agree with this. He's really the only true 3 down ILB in the draft for a 4-3. I'm not convinced Shazier can play middle.
    Not true. Borland has the same talent level as Mosley to be a 3down MLB, Avery Williamson looks like a more talented 3 down linebacker then both, while guys Telvin smith and Jordan Tripp both have a higher ceiling then Mosley.

    Mosley is dropping because of injury history and the fact he was originally over valued as a Alabama product. Mosley is a late 2nd/3rd round prospect too me.

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  • champ&dreallday
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
    Not surprising, Mosely is getting overhyped on this board.
    I don't know about that. Mosley was getting hyped by draft analysts and the media. He's very legit and seems NFL ready at MLB. His stock is only dropping becaue of possible knee injury, similar to Lacy.

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