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  • #76
    I'd say he is a wait and see pick. As a Michigan fan, saw a good deal of Schofield. He isn't a bad player, versatile, decent feet. Needs to be a bit stronger, maybe put some on weight. A grade scale, I'd say a C+ with the potential to be a B+ with the right coaching and if he does bulk up a bit.

    The talent is there but he is no Taylor Lewan. Doesn't have the same fire as Taylor, build, speed, or potential. But could still be a decent to solid lineman where ever you put. He can play any position on the line.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
      I'd say he is a wait and see pick. As a Michigan fan, saw a good deal of Schofield. He isn't a bad player, versatile, decent feet. Needs to be a bit stronger, maybe put some on weight. A grade scale, I'd say a C+ with the potential to be a B+ with the right coaching and if he does bulk up a bit.

      The talent is there but he is no Taylor Lewan. Doesn't have the same fire as Taylor, build, speed, or potential. But could still be a decent to solid lineman where ever you put. He can play any position on the line.
      Thank you, Schofield is nothing special. He is versatile, but is more of an ideal backup. He is not what you want starting at RT or LG, I don't care what anyone says. Of course on here, a majority of the posters would blindly follow John Elway off a cliff rather than have an opinion, but the same was always true under Shanahan as well, so it's nothing new.

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      • #78
        If we took weight out of the equation Patchan has way better speed and footwork but has even less pop and doesnt have his arm length.
        However, Richardson and Turner are still better OT's then him all together so no I cant say that his lack of muscle has anything to do with how I feel about the guy but it does make him look less like an odd pick
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
          If we took weight out of the equation Patchan has way better speed and footwork but has even less pop and doesnt have his arm length.
          However, Richardson and Turner are still better OT's then him all together so no I cant say that his lack of muscle has anything to do with how I feel about the guy but it does make him look less like an odd pick
          Yeah, Schofield was the only option for OT other than Richardson where we selected, which is very similar to the scenario we drafted Nate Irving under. Both were reaches because of need, and obviously Irving has underachieved because he hasn't been able to start on his own sans injury.

          I don't know why we just don't go OG there, but it apparently HAD to be an OT...ugh. We over-draft guys a lot under Elway.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Idiot_Kicker View Post
            Thank you, Schofield is nothing special. He is versatile, but is more of an ideal backup. He is not what you want starting at RT or LG, I don't care what anyone says. Of course on here, a majority of the posters would blindly follow John Elway off a cliff rather than have an opinion, but the same was always true under Shanahan as well, so it's nothing new.
            I'd agree he's pretty much a back up and depth. But again if coached and developed properly he could be a quality starter. Thus I say he's a wait and see pick. It's unknown if this was a bad or good pick right now. If he was drafted in the 4th or 5th maybe people would've be so confused on the pick.


            Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
            If we took weight out of the equation Patchan has way better speed and footwork but has even less pop and doesnt have his arm length.
            However, Richardson and Turner are still better OT's then him all together so no I cant say that his lack of muscle has anything to do with how I feel about the guy but it does make him look less like an odd pick
            I think Elway and Co was looking for someone they can move around. Sure Richardson is a better tackle, but he isn't as versatile as Schofield. Schofield is virtually a project lineman, Denver can mold to however they want him to play.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
              I'd agree he's pretty much a back up and depth. But again if coached and developed properly he could be a quality starter. Thus I say he's a wait and see pick. It's unknown if this was a bad or good pick right now. If he was drafted in the 4th or 5th maybe people would've be so confused on the pick.




              I think Elway and Co was looking for someone they can move around. Sure Richardson is a better tackle, but he isn't as versatile as Schofield. Schofield is virtually a project lineman, Denver can mold to however they want him to play.
              Essentially they want to put him and Franklin in the best possible spot for the team which makes sense. Schofield can get to the edge better then anyone he moves well side to side and he can move well upfield almost as well as Patchan. Hes to inconsistent and rangy for me to really be in love with this pick but at least he doesnt have personality concerns. Though Turner could have moved inside if we needed him to. Bitonio would have been a G I just dont see him on the outside but year the option is nice
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Idiot_Kicker View Post
                Yeah, Schofield was the only option for OT other than Richardson where we selected, which is very similar to the scenario we drafted Nate Irving under. Both were reaches because of need, and obviously Irving has underachieved because he hasn't been able to start on his own sans injury.

                I don't know why we just don't go OG there, but it apparently HAD to be an OT...ugh. We over-draft guys a lot under Elway.
                They may be reaches to you, but elway trusts his board and stays true to it. I doubt he believes he reached for him. If he felt it was a reach he would have traded the pick.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                  They may be reaches to you, but elway trusts his board and stays true to it. I doubt he believes he reached for him. If he felt it was a reach he would have traded the pick.
                  I dont agree with it but he was drafted right where scouts inc and nfldraftscouts had him, Ild of preferred someone better but thats not what happened. Flemming was rated higher but thats the one guy I would have questioned more then Schofield (though yes if he had a better muscle tone held be on my list)
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
                    I dont agree with it but he was drafted right where scouts inc and nfldraftscouts had him, Ild of preferred someone better but thats not what happened. Flemming was rated higher but thats the one guy I would have questioned more then Schofield (though yes if he had a better muscle tone held be on my list)
                    I wonder what happened to the scouts 'discovery', the Canadian OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (6'5"-321) who was projected to go in the 4th round?

                    He has outstanding size and athleticism, but remains undrafted....ooops, just went to the Chiefs as I was typing that...

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Idiot_Kicker View Post
                      I wonder what happened to the scouts 'discovery', the Canadian OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (6'5"-321) who was projected to go in the 4th round?

                      He has outstanding size and athleticism, but remains undrafted....ooops, just went to the Chiefs as I was typing that...
                      Ill be happy if we get Groy as UDFA thats the best developmental O-lineman in this draft IMO and a major steal. Though Patchan could be also a steal if hes moved inside, Groy is one of the best pulling G's you will see in this draft besides maybe a potential Bitonio, he just lacks everything else
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                      • #86
                        Look at the kids frame. Most of you talk like he's never going to gain another lb. Let's see what he has in the tank before calling him a bust.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post
                          Look at the kids frame. Most of you talk like he's never going to gain another lb. Let's see what he has in the tank before calling him a bust.
                          Even if he can handle the extra weight it doesnt make him any better of a pick currently. In a few years he might be a better pick then many of the OT's out there besides Richardson who had some personality concerns that dropped him, but till then he lacks any pop. Even with the added muscle theres no guarantee he will gain the necessary pop especially since a lot of that muscle he lacks are in his lower body.

                          I mentioned Cameron Fleming earlier he has 20 lbs on our new OT but I consider him a worse pick, why is that he lacks that same pop and also lacks the ideal foot work. If he gains more muscle up top Schofield will be to top heavy he doesnt have the leg muscles to support his current body weight whats going to happen when he gains more
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post
                            Look at the kids frame. Most of you talk like he's never going to gain another lb. Let's see what he has in the tank before calling him a bust.
                            He is said to have a narrow frame, so it might be pushing it to put on much more than 5lbs...this pick just looks worse and worse to me the further I get away from it. I am sorry, but this pick just stinks...actually the entire draft is suspect to me.

                            We really only added one defensive player of any consequence in Roby, and we did not get a RB unless we take one in the 7th...that means our depth chart at RB is M Ball, R Hillman and CJ Anderson with a street FA. That's it...not thrilled overall with this draft, but Roby and Latimer are the keys.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Idiot_Kicker View Post
                              He is said to have a narrow frame, so it might be pushing it to put on much more than 5lbs...this pick just looks worse and worse to me the further I get away from it. I am sorry, but this pick just stinks...actually the entire draft is suspect to me.

                              We really only added one defensive player of any consequence in Roby, and we did not get a RB unless we take one in the 7th...that means our depth chart at RB is M Ball, R Hillman and CJ Anderson with a street FA. That's it...not thrilled overall with this draft, but Roby and Latimer are the keys.
                              Barrow is a bit developmental he needs to improve his instincts but could be a starter fairly soon down the line. I agree though, I just dont see him adding more weight. He lacks the leg strength to actually handle more weight and would be considered top heavy. In other words the OT version of Carrethers or Cyril Richardson
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                              • #90
                                For those who said they should have taken Antonio Richardson over Schofield.......undrafted.....
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