Has your opinion of the draft gone up/down since Sat?

[Mr. Chaz]

Josh - I know Roby isn't the monster-tall SJB or McGill (who I wanted badly, can't stand he got drafted by 'the team that shall not be mentioned) but he's just a little under 6'0 and his 38 inch vert will help him defend against taller receivers/jump ball situations. Look at it this way, aside from Talib? He's one of the tallest corners we have, now whether that fact will hurt us remains to be seen but the kid is taller than Kayvon, C Harris, Carter, etc etc

ps: calling it here, the reason they didn't grab a safety is because w addition of Roby I think Kayvon will be tried there. His physicality and play before the broken hand was very encouraging for me, laid quite a few monster licks and had tight coverage/inches away from making a few more PD's or maybe even INT's

[Joshecalpoly]

Josh - I know Roby isn't the monster-tall SJB or McGill (who I wanted badly, can't stand he got drafted by 'the team that shall not be mentioned) but he's just a little under 6'0 and his 38 inch vert will help him defend against taller receivers/jump ball situations. Look at it this way, aside from Talib? He's one of the tallest corners we have, now whether that fact will hurt us remains to be seen but the kid is taller than Kayvon, C Harris, Carter, etc etc

ps: calling it here, the reason they didn't grab a safety is because w addition of Roby I think Kayvon will be tried there. His physicality and play before the broken hand was very encouraging for me, laid quite a few monster licks and had tight coverage/inches away from making a few more PD's or maybe even INT's

Kayvon does have the necessary skills to play S and possibly nickel down the line if we need him too. I like what Moore did last year before being hurt. Hes not a play maker like we wanted him to be but hes gotten much better containing and more importantly hes keeping the stupid plays to a minimum

[montee2ball]

I feel better about our draft now a week later. From all the previous discussions in the forum, it was well established that Elway was going defense and it was apparent it was going to be a corner.

I know Elway said that Roby was on top of his board and of course any GM would say that about their pick. My personal pick was Kyle Fuller. I kinda think Elway did too. After Chicago took Fuller, Elway said he thought of moving up to Dallas's pick right which was after Chicago's to maybe take CJ Moseley. A good thing it didn't happen.

Then a run on CBs in the twenties were going and Roby was the last of the CB projected to go in the first round still on the board. The more I studied him, the more he fits Elways's prototype corner. He's fast, aggressive, catch-up speed and physical. With the physicality of Talib, Roby, and Webster and the tenacity of Harris together with the physical presence of TJ Ward and Moore, this has a chance to become a Top 3 secondary.

Latimer has the ingredients of becoming a great receiver. I don't expect alot his first year but whatever he contributes would be great. He will contribute on special teams. I could see him as our punt returner/kick off specialist. You can't teach speed.

I'm keeping my eye on Barrow. I expect him to to be on special teams and provide great depth.

Schofield, with a year in the weight room, could be a find and challenge for a starting spot by 2015.

Same for Paradis.

Corey Nelson reminds me of John Mobley, fast and instinctive. Great depth behind Trevathan.

I can't wait to see these guys compete and challenge for spots. And one last thing, I glad we didn't mortgage our picks and glad that we pick up one for next year. Next year we can have up to 12 picks.

[Rich_C]

Schofield needs to work out more especially on his lower body but once he does that he should be a high ceiling low floor player like Barrow. Any time you draft a player based on high potential its bound to get a bad reaction

People wanted Richardson/Henderson and Jones because they didnt care about the perceived character concerns that most franchises deemed as being to risky of picks in the 1st 5 rounds and despite not having any guarantee they would be there fans wanted us to drop into the later rounds and get what could be risky steals at low risk picks if it turned out that way which we had no way of knowing

At MLB it was Barrow or Tripp the latter of which lacks ideal length and has not faced high level competition and unlike Barrow who scouts think is better off inside is believed to be more of a WLB. People would have complained either way

At OT Dozier is considered more of a Guard because of his height and length and lacked the same ideal push as Schofield but worse and lacked his footwork. So we would have had to go with Fleming who in all honesty with Schofields lack of weight is still a worse OT and was completely overrated until draft day

The team felt it needed a another tall receiver you cant falt them for that, or the fact they valued an average height corner over a tall one that they could of dropped back and got. Though in the end we got BPA at 1 traded up to get 2 and got BPA in 3 and 5 at the positions we needed to fill they stuck to there draft board and got away with some not so solid but definitely high potential picks

In those later rounds is where you can take those types of risks though and not have it come back and bite you. I am happy to be proven wrong but I think we will miss a taller cover ILB/ MLB. I was also a bit disappointed in our CB choice. Not because the guy isn't good but because a taller guy who also needs work was still on the board. Again I am happy to be proven wrong but the plan is likely to keep these guys for 2-3 years at least so it could be critical to have them match up against the taller bigger TE's & WR's...as for Barrow & Roby....we shall see.

I am a big fan of two of our UDFA RB's this year. Looking forward to those who are arguably deemed unproven, prove themselves.

[Joshecalpoly]

In those later rounds is where you can take those types of risks though and not have it come back and bite you. I am happy to be proven wrong but I think we will miss a taller cover ILB/ MLB. I was also a bit disappointed in our CB choice. Not because the guy isn't good but because a taller guy who also needs work was still on the board. Again I am happy to be proven wrong but the plan is likely to keep these guys for 2-3 years at least so it could be critical to have them match up against the taller bigger TE's & WR's...as for Barrow & Roby....we shall see.

I am a big fan of two of our UDFA RB's this year. Looking forward to those who are arguably deemed unproven, prove themselves.

Well we got the 2nd lengthiest ILB in the draft after Mosley. He will get off blocks easier and has more tackle range. One of the reasons why people like taller players is because they have that length generally which means in coverage they can cover more air space and in reality because of his length and leaping (his radius not his vertical, he has a much better leaping radius), he actually can cover more ground then Tripp.

Roby doesnt have as much length or range as McGill or SJB and his hips arent arguably as good but he does have larger softer hands and a great closing speed, which can be useful.

Personally I would have loved Bradford who has even slightly smaller arms then Tripp but has experience covering higher level competition and playing inside but he didnt fall to us in the 4th and teams thought his overly intense character was a concern for the 2nd and 3rd.

[AsianBronc]

Well we got the 2nd lengthiest ILB in the draft after Mosley. He will get off blocks easier and has more tackle range. One of the reasons why people like taller players is because they have that length generally which means in coverage they can cover more air space and in reality because of his length and leaping (his radius not his vertical, he has a much better leaping radius), he actually can cover more ground then Tripp.

Roby doesnt have as much length or range as McGill or SJB and his hips arent arguably as good but he does have larger softer hands and a great closing speed, which can be useful.

Personally I would have loved Bradford who has even slightly smaller arms then Tripp but has experience covering higher level competition and playing inside but he didnt fall to us in the 4th and teams thought his overly intense character was a concern for the 2nd and 3rd.

I'm confused, are you saying Bradley's hips aren't as good as SJB/McGill's or theirs aren't as good as his? When I watch their combine videos, Bradley's hips look like they were made to samba!

[japfaff]

To me it is just a very underwhelming first 2 days....Roby has talent but I cant get past the fact that his soph year was so much better than his Jr year. That tells me that he is a hard worker and that he is lazy. Plus u add his 2 drinking issues and that is another red flag. Those last 2 traits dont go away cause someone gives u a million dollars.

Lattimer IMO is a straight up work out warrior. Watching him in a game and he is very unimpressive. Put him in shorts and he looks great. I am always nervous about drafting a guy like that. Plus I think at that point in the draft we had bigger needs than a WR.

Schofiled.....Again all people talk about was how good he looked in a senior bowl PRACTICE. What does that mean....He practices well but sucks in games. I think that we took a small and not really strong guy, and wanna try and move him to LG. Once again just far bigger needs hear than a project

But day 3 like Elway always does he bounced back and had some solid picks.....Like he always does. But those first 2 days. I think that for this year we didnt get much better

[Joshecalpoly]

I'm confused, are you saying Bradley's hips aren't as good as SJB/McGill's or theirs aren't as good as his? When I watch their combine videos, Bradley's hips look like they were made to samba!

McGill has amazing hips but they are amazingly inconsistent. SJB can flow with some of the best receivers in the game but when it comes to crossing routes his legs arent very good moving side to side

Of those still available only Mitchell Gaines and Reynolds all had better hips then Roby though only Gaines had his speed (which doesnt matter as much as people think since most of there moves come from back pedaling). Gaines has all the tools to be a good corner but lacks a lot of the instincts and is not someone yould want as your last line of defense

[Joshecalpoly]

To me it is just a very underwhelming first 2 days....Roby has talent but I cant get past the fact that his soph year was so much better than his Jr year. That tells me that he is a hard worker and that he is lazy. Plus u add his 2 drinking issues and that is another red flag. Those last 2 traits dont go away cause someone gives u a million dollars.

Lattimer IMO is a straight up work out warrior. Watching him in a game and he is very unimpressive. Put him in shorts and he looks great. I am always nervous about drafting a guy like that. Plus I think at that point in the draft we had bigger needs than a WR.

Schofiled.....Again all people talk about was how good he looked in a senior bowl PRACTICE. What does that mean....He practices well but sucks in games. I think that we took a small and not really strong guy, and wanna try and move him to LG. Once again just far bigger needs hear than a project

But day 3 like Elway always does he bounced back and had some solid picks.....Like he always does. But those first 2 days. I think that for this year we didnt get much better

Schofield has great technique, hes smart and hes athletic with good foot work. Unfortunately we will probably need to lock him in the weight room for the remainder of the offseason for him to be ready. When a lineman does as poorly as he did in the leg drills the first instinct is to say hes top heavy, which is sad for a guy who is underweight for the position. Whether he plays G or OT one thing is for sure he needs to get his legs more powerful otherwise he will never get that consistent punch we need.

I will also agree there are flags for Roby but the description of the reports make them more yellow then red. Hes a risky pick and yes because of that he may have fallen farther then where we got him too considering where others had fallen in the draft. This was a high risk high reward pick plain and simple.

What you said about Latimer can be true except that he really didnt workout mostly because of his broken foot (for some reason our scouts are obsessed with WR's with the same injury Decker and DT and now Latimer). He had a lot of character concerns believing he never really tried to get balls not thrown perfectly too him and that he took plays off. He is a randy moss like receiver in the fact when hes focused he could be amazing but when hes not he can be a big problem

[BroncoooJohnson]

Filled our biggest need (CB), everything else is gravy.

Not expecting alot of them minus Roby to have big roles this year, maybe Barrow if he comes on strong early.

Remember Trevathan in 2012? I think that's Barrow this year.

[cdumler7]

The more I watch of these guys the more I get excited. Roby is a wildcard for a 1st round player but most of his issues were technique issues not talent issues. Of all the 1st round corners I think he had the worst technique of any of them yet his athleticism alone made him a 1st round talent. The coaches just got done with a corner like that in DRC and well he turned out pretty darn good for us. Doesn't mean it will happen again but I like the chances of the coaches coaching him up to be a top level corner for us. Maybe not year 1 but year 2 and on I am excited to watch this kid.

Latimer was the pick that I at first was scratching my head of why in the world would we draft this guy but the more I watch of him the more I am excited to what he brings to the team even this year. Again this is another guy looking like he has all the athleticism in the world but lacking the finer points of his position. A lot like when we drafted D. Thomas in he was successful on just athleticism in college but that wasn't going to cut it in the pros. These 1st 2 picks for us are boom or bust. These guys can be top tier for their position or they could be out of the league before the end of their 1st contract. It is a matter of how hard they want to work. I have more confidence in Roby to reach his potential than I do Latimer but at the same time I actually believe both will do well for us.

Schofield couldn't have been more opposite than the 1st 2 picks in he is a technician for his position but lacking some of the athleticism that you would like. It seems the coaching staff likes OL players that overachieve. Makes sense because that is what Elway had for those last 5 years or so is OL players that were not the most athletic but worked their tails off to not fail. Same with the Center we drafted in the 6th round.

Barrow to me is the guy that I am just flat out excited to see on the field. I wish Training Camp was open to the public this year above all others as these rookies and guys we have brought in through FA just have me excited for this upcoming season. I do think Barrow will get more snaps than people think especially by the end of the year as he gets more comfortable with the MLB position.

[Joshecalpoly]

Remember Trevathan in 2012? I think that's Barrow this year.

Cant say that because after he pulled a hammy in his tryouts most people didnt think yould hear much from the guy. Barrow is was on plenty of watch lists and many people believed him to be a gem in this draft, then again I was really pushing for people to notice this kid on here well before the draft being he was my 2nd highest pick not named mosley at the position

[brianmcfarlane]

This draft was mostly about Cody Latimer and the more I look into him the more I like him. Roby is the other player that can be a factor this year, I like his physical ability and if his head is in the game he will be a factor this year ... it will be fun/interesting to see how he does, I am hoping he starts early in the season and not because of injury. The rest of the draft has potential that we might not see much of this year but certainly has potential. I like Barrow but I think he will get ST and spot play this year.

[Garfield]

Still under whelmed.

Took leftovers in rounds 1-2 and after that went for potential.

Do not see a single player that will be a starter until next year if then.

[broncos SB2010]

Still under whelmed.

Took leftovers in rounds 1-2 and after that went for potential.

Do not see a single player that will be a starter until next year if then.

nothing wrong with that if they become starters. I think 2 starters, maybe even 4. 4 would be a great draft.