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  • Originally posted by 15thebeast View Post
    Tebow had major flaws in his mechanics, Prescott is much further along in his development then Tebow was coming out, with dual threat QBs becoming more frequent in the nfl I think Prescott could sneak into bottom of round 1 with a QB desperate team trading up to get him
    He's a zone read QB like Tebow, and there aren't many teams that run that in the NFL. Plus in big games, he tends to disappear. He had 4+ INTs vs. ALA in two games. Plus he couldn't carry the team this year, and any team that needs a QB, will need him to carry them. He's a project, that will take years to become a starter
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    • Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
      Always hurt is an inaccurate statement.

      Elway is gonna have a plan for the team. I will gurantee you shoring up protection for his investment at QB will be towards the top of the list. To say we should cut Clady, is not an easy decision.
      It usually takes a lot longer for a DT to learn the position in the NFL. If Malik gives Denver a "home town discount", I think they will try to keep him. I look for us to lose one inside and one outside LB in FA.
      It will be a very interesting off season for us Bronco fans.

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      • I'll eat the bill of a hat and post it to youtube if Prescott is a 1st round selection...

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        • Originally posted by Kansas Bob View Post
          It usually takes a lot longer for a DT to learn the position in the NFL. If Malik gives Denver a "home town discount", I think they will try to keep him. I look for us to lose one inside and one outside LB in FA.
          It will be a very interesting off season for us Bronco fans.
          Ideally we will attempt to work a deal with everyone. However, decisions must be made. Malik is very good, but at the end of the day signal callers will trump all.
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          • Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
            Ideally we will attempt to work a deal with everyone. However, decisions must be made. Malik is very good, but at the end of the day signal callers will trump all.
            Not when your team has the #1 ranked defense in total defense and top 5 in every other defensive category. What we're seeing from this Broncos defense is unprecedented and you can't expect to just "plug in guys" and get similar production. This defense will be regarded as special if we win this weekend. When you have a special unit, you have to do whatever it takes to keep them together.

            giving Malik's money to a QB with only 7 starts and just as many bad moments as good moments would be a terrible decision for a variety of reasons. This team is far better off investing in its defense and offensive line while drafting a young QB that can grow on the job and has all of the necessary pieces around him to succeed. It also makes far more sense, from a financial standpoint.

            With a QB on a rookie contract, you could afford all of the necessary pieces around him to stay a Super Bowl contending team for 3-4 years until you have to give the QB a 2nd contract. By that point, you hope that the QB has demonstrated the abilities to carry a team on his back like a franchise QB should. If you give Brock a big money deal, you not only give more money to him than you should but you let other impact players walk in the process which hurts Brock's chances of being able to lead a team to championship contention.

            Point is, great TEAMS win Super Bowls. Investing that much in a player that is still an unknown for his long-term prospects and not giving that money to proven impact players is just stupid IMO.
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            • I don't feel we can offer MJ anymore or less than Wolfe got. When a player signs early for less than he may have got on the market, you can't penalize him by giving MJ more for holding out for the best offer. I do think we should have that contract offer out to MJ, but it will be up to him to take it.

              There also could be a softer than expected market for MJ given the very strong DL class this year, teams may simply spend on other positions they feel they can't fill in the draft.

              For us I still believe option 1 should be MJ option 2 Draft.
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              • Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
                I don't feel we can offer MJ anymore or less than Wolfe got. When a player signs early for less than he may have got on the market, you can't penalize him by giving MJ more for holding out for the best offer. I do think we should have that contract offer out to MJ, but it will be up to him to take it.

                There also could be a softer than expected market for MJ given the very strong DL class this year, teams may simply spend on other positions they feel they can't fill in the draft.

                For us I still believe option 1 should be MJ option 2 Draft.
                Jaguars have a boatload of cap space and need to address their defense this year. I'd expect Oakland to offer him a good contract as well.
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                • Originally posted by Mantheyman View Post
                  Not when your team has the #1 ranked defense in total defense and top 5 in every other defensive category. What we're seeing from this Broncos defense is unprecedented and you can't expect to just "plug in guys" and get similar production. This defense will be regarded as special if we win this weekend. When you have a special unit, you have to do whatever it takes to keep them together.

                  giving Malik's money to a QB with only 7 starts and just as many bad moments as good moments would be a terrible decision for a variety of reasons. This team is far better off investing in its defense and offensive line while drafting a young QB that can grow on the job and has all of the necessary pieces around him to succeed. It also makes far more sense, from a financial standpoint.

                  With a QB on a rookie contract, you could afford all of the necessary pieces around him to stay a Super Bowl contending team for 3-4 years until you have to give the QB a 2nd contract. By that point, you hope that the QB has demonstrated the abilities to carry a team on his back like a franchise QB should. If you give Brock a big money deal, you not only give more money to him than you should but you let other impact players walk in the process which hurts Brock's chances of being able to lead a team to championship contention.

                  Point is, great TEAMS win Super Bowls. Investing that much in a player that is still an unknown for his long-term prospects and not giving that money to proven impact players is just stupid IMO.
                  This is the list of the last 10 QBs for the SB

                  13 of the last 15 QBs to start a Superbowl for the AFC have been Manning, Brady, or Ben. Like it or not QB play is instrumental in building a championship. Is replacing a player of Malik's caliber easy? No, it's not. It's much harder to find a starting QB at 31 that you can develop. As for Brock having as many bad as good moments, we are going to have to disagree on that one. Also, having money does not gurantee you can sign a player. Jacksonville has tons of money, why are they not getting pegged as landing spots for everyone? Teams win superbowls, and having a QB is a crucial element. Even our defense needed 2 QBs to have critical comebacks in order to be in this position.
                  What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
                  I don't know and I don't care

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