Sly Williams

[Gbt31]

To be honest, I'm still pretty upset we waived Darius Kilgo. I understand we needed a LS at the time, but I thought he was a good project to keep around.....and look at him now, on the Patriots.

[Joshecalpoly]

Not worth it. We can spend our money more wisely. I would rather rotate Peko with a rookie on dirt contracts than pay him 5 mil a year.

See now thats the argument I can understand I think hes been fairly competent given that 1 tech is not the easiest position to learn. However, is he worth as much as he might actually command thats another issue all together. Montravius Adams is someone I was thinking of getting

Williams was doubled more this year but it was not because of his ability, but because Crick was useless and Wolfe was out more. Honestly, the job of the 1 tech is to free up other players and he did that, but often that didnt mean much.

[Gbt31]

Not worth it. We can spend our money more wisely. I would rather rotate Peko with a rookie on dirt contracts than pay him 5 mil a year.

[HDbroncos02]

My draft crush this year is Auburn DT Montravius Adams. I wanted Chris Jones last year, but when I watched Montravius Adams' tape against Alabama, I fell in love. If we could get him at #20, I would be ecstatic. He has the quickness, motor, and strength that Sly does not. Adams would be a freak in the middle of our defensive line.

Let Sly walk.

[broncos SB2010]

He's never played 3 technique in a 1 gap defense. He was a 3 tech in a two gap and a 1 tech in a one gap. I'm not saying he's a guy you base your defense around, but in a rotation (like he was in 2015) he can be a serviceable player, and he's not gonna cost a fortune.

Much like you and your belief in Fitzpatrick being a serviceable QB (and my belief that RGIII would be better in his second stop) we can have differing opinions.

That much, I agree with. I just don't understand why people keep expecting things from him when he has never shown it. People say he is best as a penetrator. Why? he has never shown much ability at that which is why he was benched in favor of Malik in 2014. It's been 4 years now for Sly. If he hasn't stepped up by now, he never is. He is what he is.....a decent rotational player. IMO, that position needs some serious upgrading and is the weakest position on the defense.

I can't believe how badly Fitz crashed this year. I never thought he was great but geez....he was horrible this season. Neither one of us right about those 2 QBs.....

[Alaskajoe]

He hasn't been very good no matter where he has played. I am unsure why people think that will change very much if they move him somewhere else. He is 28 now and only plays about 50% of the snaps. He is a marginal Dline player no matter how you look at it, imo.

Agreed. His inability to play multiple techniques is just that. An inability. That won't change. He is at best a solid role player. Resign walker, develop Gotsis and sign a top 3 penetrator. Resign both okung and Williams to mid level $4-5 mill contracts while targeting any top flight RT and G. This allows us to go hard after a top flight ILB, TE, or RB in the 1st. and still leaves us in decent cap shape. Byou doing this we don't have to worry about the extended development time needed for DL or T.

[listopencil]

Think we let him walk, and sign a DL in FA.

Run defense has got to improve.

He's a young-ish DL with experience that probably isn't going to command a big salary. I don't want to see him thrown to the side unless we have so many better players that he doesn't fit on the roster.

[Butler By'Note]

He hasn't been very good no matter where he has played. I am unsure why people think that will change very much if they move him somewhere else. He is 28 now and only plays about 50% of the snaps. He is a marginal Dline player no matter how you look at it, imo.

He's never played 3 technique in a 1 gap defense. He was a 3 tech in a two gap and a 1 tech in a one gap. I'm not saying he's a guy you base your defense around, but in a rotation (like he was in 2015) he can be a serviceable player, and he's not gonna cost a fortune.

Much like you and your belief in Fitzpatrick being a serviceable QB (and my belief that RGIII would be better in his second stop) we can have differing opinions.

[ERoyal248]

Think we let him walk, and sign a DL in FA.

Run defense has got to improve.

[HUMCALC]

I saw Peko on the field a bit. I haven't re-watched the game to take a good look at him yet.They also just signed Travis Raciti to a futures contract. I've seen him listed at 6'4" and around 300 pounds. Played DT in college. He's 24 years old, will be 25 next May. He looks like he could add good weight to his frame. Could be a rotational DT for us. It's a long off season this year.

I always liked Raciti

[broncos SB2010]

That "4-3" defense was a 2 gap defense, he's not suited for a 2 gap defense. Which shows up when he gets blown up by double teams. 2 gap players anchor and read, he's not a guy who can anchor. In this "3-4" defense it's a 1 gap defense, but he's playing out of position at 1 tech, again this is a position where you're going to see a lot of double teams.

I'm not making excuses for his play at 1 tech, he's not good there. What I am saying is that if they re-sign him they should move him to one of their "end" positions, mainly the 3 tech position that they play.

He hasn't been very good no matter where he has played. I am unsure why people think that will change very much if they move him somewhere else. He is 28 now and only plays about 50% of the snaps. He is a marginal Dline player no matter how you look at it, imo.

[Butler By'Note]

His strength is_____, not ______, he is better at ____ position, he is better with ______ playing next to/behind him.

All excuses. The truth is, he just isn't very good and I have been saying so since he was drafted. I hoped he would develop into a better player but that just hasn't happened yet. When he played 3 technique in 2014, before the switch to a 3-4, he lost his job to malik jackson for the last 6 weeks of the season. He will probably get re-signed but I also think they bring in competition for that position as it is the weakest position on defense. I also wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk in FA.

That "4-3" defense was a 2 gap defense, he's not suited for a 2 gap defense. Which shows up when he gets blown up by double teams. 2 gap players anchor and read, he's not a guy who can anchor. In this "3-4" defense it's a 1 gap defense, but he's playing out of position at 1 tech, again this is a position where you're going to see a lot of double teams.

I'm not making excuses for his play at 1 tech, he's not good there. What I am saying is that if they re-sign him they should move him to one of their "end" positions, mainly the 3 tech position that they play.

[broncos SB2010]

His strength is_____, not ______, he is better at ____ position, he is better with ______ playing next to/behind him.

All excuses. The truth is, he just isn't very good and I have been saying so since he was drafted. I hoped he would develop into a better player but that just hasn't happened yet. When he played 3 technique in 2014, before the switch to a 3-4, he lost his job to malik jackson for the last 6 weeks of the season. He will probably get re-signed but I also think they bring in competition for that position as it is the weakest position on defense. I also wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk in FA.

[listopencil]

I saw Peko on the field a bit. I haven't re-watched the game to take a good look at him yet.They also just signed Travis Raciti to a futures contract. I've seen him listed at 6'4" and around 300 pounds. Played DT in college. He's 24 years old, will be 25 next May. He looks like he could add good weight to his frame. Could be a rotational DT for us. It's a long off season this year.

[Kyousukeneko]

Those guys are a little light to deal with the run, and the ILB shouldn't be matched up in the passing game very often. He should be filling a zone and reading a back to cover if need be. That's one of my issues with Phillips defense, I don't like the coverage responsibilities out of it. But he's a legendary coordinator and has a Super Bowl, and I'm neither of those things, so he's got a little more cache in that department.

I'm not sure KC lets Poe become a free agent. With some easy cap moves they get the room to sign both him and Berry, if they structure the contracts right they can keep both and add more. Poe is pretty valuable to them. I'd love to have him in Denver, he'd be a massive upgrade, both in size and abilities. But it'll be tough to get him.

it'd be stupid of them to let either one level kansas city but i could see them doing it. they haven't inked up berry for some reason