Sly Williams

[Interceptor]

I've heard that he would be a good fit in Wade's D at DE. Assuming Wade remains is there a good market for DT's in the draft and/or Free Agents to make this happen? Is even a good idea? Your thoughts please.

[Butler By'Note]

If I were running the team I would re-sign Williams to play 3/5 technique in the current defense, or as a 3 technique in a regular 40 defense. His strength is penetration, which is what's needed in this D, but he's not built to handle double teams inside as the 1 technique, especially when there's a hole behind him at ILB. He was better with Trevathan behind him, there's even a chance he could find the 2015 form if he had that support in behind.

[Joshecalpoly]

We tried to move him this year but he was still the only NT who fit our system and then he was asked to do more with no adequate backup. Part of the problem was Wolfe injured all year and Crick only being good at getting into passing lanes made Williams struggle without having the pieces beside him

Finding a NT to fit your scheme is hard even if Wade stays and we bring him back we still need to find a serviceable back up and maybe he can rotate at both positions then. If Wade leaves though he won't likely fit into the next coordinators scheme as a NT

[Kyousukeneko]

i think your wrong, its not trev that made him look better who said that trev made him look better at it then he was

i think its more we4 had 2 elite de jackson and wolfe both demand double teams vs the run. so with them jackson would get a double then wolfe would get a double letting williams handle a single team in the middle. what we need is another lineman that takes. which is why i just wanna dump alot of money to see dontari poe in the orange and blue. we get him and our d is elite for a long time

[Butler By'Note]

We tried to move him this year but he was still the only NT who fit our system and then he was asked to do more with no adequate backup. Part of the problem was Wolfe injured all year and Crick only being good at getting into passing lanes made Williams struggle without having the pieces beside him

Finding a NT to fit your scheme is hard even if Wade stays and we bring him back we still need to find a serviceable back up and maybe he can rotate at both positions then. If Wade leaves though he won't likely fit into the next coordinators scheme as a NT

He's not a 1 tech, he's a 3 tech. You can get by with him at 1 tech with adequate depth (as you pointed out) and with a ILB who can read and fill his gap well. Without that depth and that good ILB this year it really showed how out of place Williams was as a 1 tech.

[Butler By'Note]

i think your wrong, its not trev that made him look better who said that trev made him look better at it then he was

i think its more we4 had 2 elite de jackson and wolfe both demand double teams vs the run. so with them jackson would get a double then wolfe would get a double letting williams handle a single team in the middle. what we need is another lineman that takes. which is why i just wanna dump alot of money to see dontari poe in the orange and blue. we get him and our d is elite for a long time

Double teams in the run game are based on scheme less than opposition. You're not going to double team both players on a lead to the other side, you'll double one player and possibly a quick double and scrape on the other player. If a player is lined up as a 4 technique and you're running to the opposite side of the line, there's no way that guard is going to double team the 4, he's either doubling the 1 and reading the backer on a zone play. Or he's pulling or going straight to the backer on a man scheme.

Watching Todd Daivs this year, he had a rough time diagnosing plays and filling his gap. He'd often overrun plays trying to do too much, as well as just standing there waiting for things to develop.

[Kyousukeneko]

Double teams in the run game are based on scheme less than opposition. You're not going to double team both players on a lead to the other side, you'll double one player and possibly a quick double and scrape on the other player. If a player is lined up as a 4 technique and you're running to the opposite side of the line, there's no way that guard is going to double team the 4, he's either doubling the 1 and reading the backer on a zone play. Or he's pulling or going straight to the backer on a man scheme.

Watching Todd Daivs this year, he had a rough time diagnosing plays and filling his gap. He'd often overrun plays trying to do too much, as well as just standing there waiting for things to develop.

i like the guys behind davis in anderson and nelson alot once they get coverage more down. davis is a stop agp. i was more disappointed in the play of brandon marshall. i think davis is a stop gap for one of those 2 guys i really like our ild depth and think they need a year or 2 of development depending the scheme. but i really feel we have an obvious massive hole at 1 tech or NT. i think if we throw the money needed to get poe in denver then we have an elite defense with
talib haris wolfe poe marshall steward ray. it just reads elite to me with the pieces we have we need poe.



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[Butler By'Note]

i like the guys behind davis in anderson and nelson alot once they get coverage more down. davis is a stop agp. i was more disappointed in the play of brandon marshall. i think davis is a stop gap for one of those 2 guys i really like our ild depth and think they need a year or 2 of development depending the scheme. but i really feel we have an obvious massive hole at 1 tech or NT. i think if we throw the money needed to get poe in denver then we have an elite defense with
talib haris wolfe poe marshall steward ray. it just reads elite to me with the pieces we have we need poe.



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Those guys are a little light to deal with the run, and the ILB shouldn't be matched up in the passing game very often. He should be filling a zone and reading a back to cover if need be. That's one of my issues with Phillips defense, I don't like the coverage responsibilities out of it. But he's a legendary coordinator and has a Super Bowl, and I'm neither of those things, so he's got a little more cache in that department.

I'm not sure KC lets Poe become a free agent. With some easy cap moves they get the room to sign both him and Berry, if they structure the contracts right they can keep both and add more. Poe is pretty valuable to them. I'd love to have him in Denver, he'd be a massive upgrade, both in size and abilities. But it'll be tough to get him.

[Kyousukeneko]

Those guys are a little light to deal with the run, and the ILB shouldn't be matched up in the passing game very often. He should be filling a zone and reading a back to cover if need be. That's one of my issues with Phillips defense, I don't like the coverage responsibilities out of it. But he's a legendary coordinator and has a Super Bowl, and I'm neither of those things, so he's got a little more cache in that department.

I'm not sure KC lets Poe become a free agent. With some easy cap moves they get the room to sign both him and Berry, if they structure the contracts right they can keep both and add more. Poe is pretty valuable to them. I'd love to have him in Denver, he'd be a massive upgrade, both in size and abilities. But it'll be tough to get him.

it'd be stupid of them to let either one level kansas city but i could see them doing it. they haven't inked up berry for some reason

[listopencil]

I saw Peko on the field a bit. I haven't re-watched the game to take a good look at him yet.They also just signed Travis Raciti to a futures contract. I've seen him listed at 6'4" and around 300 pounds. Played DT in college. He's 24 years old, will be 25 next May. He looks like he could add good weight to his frame. Could be a rotational DT for us. It's a long off season this year.

[broncos SB2010]

His strength is_____, not ______, he is better at ____ position, he is better with ______ playing next to/behind him.

All excuses. The truth is, he just isn't very good and I have been saying so since he was drafted. I hoped he would develop into a better player but that just hasn't happened yet. When he played 3 technique in 2014, before the switch to a 3-4, he lost his job to malik jackson for the last 6 weeks of the season. He will probably get re-signed but I also think they bring in competition for that position as it is the weakest position on defense. I also wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk in FA.

[Butler By'Note]

His strength is_____, not ______, he is better at ____ position, he is better with ______ playing next to/behind him.

All excuses. The truth is, he just isn't very good and I have been saying so since he was drafted. I hoped he would develop into a better player but that just hasn't happened yet. When he played 3 technique in 2014, before the switch to a 3-4, he lost his job to malik jackson for the last 6 weeks of the season. He will probably get re-signed but I also think they bring in competition for that position as it is the weakest position on defense. I also wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk in FA.

That "4-3" defense was a 2 gap defense, he's not suited for a 2 gap defense. Which shows up when he gets blown up by double teams. 2 gap players anchor and read, he's not a guy who can anchor. In this "3-4" defense it's a 1 gap defense, but he's playing out of position at 1 tech, again this is a position where you're going to see a lot of double teams.

I'm not making excuses for his play at 1 tech, he's not good there. What I am saying is that if they re-sign him they should move him to one of their "end" positions, mainly the 3 tech position that they play.

[broncos SB2010]

That "4-3" defense was a 2 gap defense, he's not suited for a 2 gap defense. Which shows up when he gets blown up by double teams. 2 gap players anchor and read, he's not a guy who can anchor. In this "3-4" defense it's a 1 gap defense, but he's playing out of position at 1 tech, again this is a position where you're going to see a lot of double teams.

I'm not making excuses for his play at 1 tech, he's not good there. What I am saying is that if they re-sign him they should move him to one of their "end" positions, mainly the 3 tech position that they play.

He hasn't been very good no matter where he has played. I am unsure why people think that will change very much if they move him somewhere else. He is 28 now and only plays about 50% of the snaps. He is a marginal Dline player no matter how you look at it, imo.

[HUMCALC]

I saw Peko on the field a bit. I haven't re-watched the game to take a good look at him yet.They also just signed Travis Raciti to a futures contract. I've seen him listed at 6'4" and around 300 pounds. Played DT in college. He's 24 years old, will be 25 next May. He looks like he could add good weight to his frame. Could be a rotational DT for us. It's a long off season this year.

I always liked Raciti

[ERoyal248]

Think we let him walk, and sign a DL in FA.

Run defense has got to improve.