Potential Cuts this offseason to look for.

[Rich_C]

See and perhaps this is where I differ. So long as the defensive effort continues I don't see the rift impacting the singular direction of the team...which should be to win the next game.

In fact if I can take my comment here a step further. It is up to the HC to make the needed personnel changes, scheme or game plan changes to allow for his teams offense to perform better. Ultimately, for example in our 2016-2017 teams case we lead the league in 3 and outs I believe. We also saw a traumatic drop in run production when we effectively stopped using a FB. There were MANY FB's available and we never bothered to bring one in or use Juwan the same way we did Janovich. We also failed to alter our scheme even after we didn't perform well on offense for 3 or 4 weeks in a row...

I'd argue that even with sub par personnel in some areas on defense we saw WaDE make noticeable and carefully planned alterations to his approach to try and address the issue. Sure it only helped a bit but it was still changes....

So again I say the defense is challenged week in and out to elevate their game and by and large they do to a near impossible standard. Yet the offense this season couldn't even elevate their level of play to average....I can understand how a rift is both justified and formed.

[broncos SB2010]

See and perhaps this is where I differ. So long as the defensive effort continues I don't see the rift impacting the singular direction of the team...which should be to win the next game.

The defense only allowed 68 points over the final 4 games. They went 1-3 over that span......

[Rancid]

The Broncos will have close to $40-M in cap to play with and an anticipated 10-draft picks.

To become a SB contender again, they need 2-3 more players on defense and 4-6 on offense.

I do not understand the mentions of cutting Talib. The defense needs 10 more of him (in various sizes).

[kingelway7]

Are people ever gonna stop with the "Cut Talib"???

It's not happening people. He had perhaps his best season of his career and was the 2nd best DB in the NFL behind Chris Harris.

As for the others listed in the OP.

Stephenson should be gone. I would have cut him as soon as the clock hit 00:00 last Sunday.

Okung is worth keeping but definitely not on his current contract. If he is willing to take a pay cut, I'd keep him. If Okung won't take a pay cut, then he should be cut.

TJ Ward is an interesting case. I wouldn't mind cutting him but yet Im more than fine with keeping him. He has some coverage issues but he also is aggressive and plays more like a LB than a true Safety. Simmons is gonna be a stud, I believe. He could replace Ward right now if need be but keeping Ward another year to give Simmons another season to learn and grow before starting is alright with me.

Someone else that should go that wasn't in the OP is Virgil Green. He has been quite a disappointment since his extension and we'd save a couple million with cutting him. I'd draft a TE and go with Derby and Heuerman for next season.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

The defense only allowed 68 points over the final 4 games. They went 1-3 over that span......

I believe we had the hardest finishing schedule in the history of the NFL. So to say the last 4 games teams scored on us isn't a suprise.

[ERoyal248]

Are people ever gonna stop with the "Cut Talib"???

It's not happening people. He had perhaps his best season of his career and was the 2nd best DB in the NFL behind Chris Harris.

As for the others listed in the OP.

Stephenson should be gone. I would have cut him as soon as the clock hit 00:00 last Sunday.

Okung is worth keeping but definitely not on his current contract. If he is willing to take a pay cut, I'd keep him. If Okung won't take a pay cut, then he should be cut.

TJ Ward is an interesting case. I wouldn't mind cutting him but yet Im more than fine with keeping him. He has some coverage issues but he also is aggressive and plays more like a LB than a true Safety. Simmons is gonna be a stud, I believe. He could replace Ward right now if need be but keeping Ward another year to give Simmons another season to learn and grow before starting is alright with me.

Someone else that should go that wasn't in the OP is Virgil Green. He has been quite a disappointment since his extension and we'd save a couple million with cutting him. I'd draft a TE and go with Derby and Heuerman for next season.

Yeah i think Green and Stephenson are possible cuts.

Okung is a wild card, not worth his salary but dont have any replacement.

Ward as well is interesting, we do have replacements but him being cut only saves like 4 mil or so. Doubt Denver re-signs him, i'd just keep him and let him walk after 18.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Yeah i think Green and Stephenson are possible cuts.

Okung is a wild card, not worth his salary but dont have any replacement.

Ward as well is interesting, we do have replacements but him being cut only saves like 4 mil or so. Doubt Denver re-signs him, i'd just keep him and let him walk after 18.

I agree with every statement here. While I think Okung should have been better, I don't know if he is worth the salary. He may be much better with a better LG next to him.

[Rich_C]

I believe we had the hardest finishing schedule in the history of the NFL. So to say the last 4 games teams scored on us isn't a suprise.

That is a 4 game average of 17 points per game...I'd hardly say that is the defense getting piss or allowing a sub par offense get to them. If anything I'd say they held their own and did their job.

[Rich_C]

Are people ever gonna stop with the "Cut Talib"???

It's not happening people. He had perhaps his best season of his career and was the 2nd best DB in the NFL behind Chris Harris.

As for the others listed in the OP.

Stephenson should be gone. I would have cut him as soon as the clock hit 00:00 last Sunday.

Okung is worth keeping but definitely not on his current contract. If he is willing to take a pay cut, I'd keep him. If Okung won't take a pay cut, then he should be cut.

TJ Ward is an interesting case. I wouldn't mind cutting him but yet Im more than fine with keeping him. He has some coverage issues but he also is aggressive and plays more like a LB than a true Safety. Simmons is gonna be a stud, I believe. He could replace Ward right now if need be but keeping Ward another year to give Simmons another season to learn and grow before starting is alright with me.

Someone else that should go that wasn't in the OP is Virgil Green. He has been quite a disappointment since his extension and we'd save a couple million with cutting him. I'd draft a TE and go with Derby and Heuerman for next season.

Are you sagging on him because he hasn't caught a ton of passes if that is the case it really isn't his fault....he is in many cases a victim of his own success. He is easily the best blocking TE we have and for the majority of his passing targets he has done well.

[BroncosMWT]

Why not extend Talib and lower his cap number? You don't cut an all pro.

[Rich_C]

Why not extend Talib and lower his cap number? You don't cut an all pro.

While I agree who's to say he'd extend?

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

While I agree who's to say he'd extend?

Why wouldn't he? He really seems to like it here. His passion for winning and the Broncos is outstanding.

[BroncosMWT]

While I agree who's to say he'd extend?

He has no guaranteed money left. It would be in his best interest.

[Butler By'Note]

That is a 4 game average of 17 points per game...I'd hardly say that is the defense getting piss or allowing a sub par offense get to them. If anything I'd say they held their own and did their job.

Week 16. They didn't hold their own, they didn't do their jobs, they were pathetic. People on here were speculating the defense didn't give their best effort because they didn't want to get hurt if the offense wasn't going to do anything anyways.

I have no idea if that's true, I would hope not. But if it is, that's why you get rid of the players that create the rift.

[FlowdaBroncoFan]

Week 16. They didn't hold their own, they didn't do their jobs, they were pathetic. People on here were speculating the defense didn't give their best effort because they didn't want to get hurt if the offense wasn't going to do anything anyways.

I have no idea if that's true, I would hope not. But if it is, that's why you get rid of the players that create the rift.

That's the entire D. How are you going to replace them?