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  • MarshallMoss
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    Here is an old article from 3 years ago. It seems Dion's welcome was pretty much over with the Dolphins after only 1 year with them:

    Should the Broncos Make a Move to Get Dion Jordan From Dolphins?

    http://predominantlyorange.com/2014/...rdan-dolphins/


    The Denver Broncos haven’t been overly aggressive on the trade market since John Elway became the Executive VP of Player Operations in 2011, but that doesn’t mean that all options won’t be considered. Last year, they reportedly had interest in trading for Vikings defensive end Jared Allen at the trade deadline if the Vikings would absorb a significant amount of his remaining contract, and they weren’t willing to do so.

    So, the wheels probably turn more often than we think, but the Broncos haven’t really pulled the trigger on any blockbuster trades since Elway came aboard.

    If the right situation were to come along, all things would be considered, and the recent report from Jason La Canfora that the Dolphins are gauging the trade market for second year player and 2013 third overall pick Dion Jordan is something the Broncos will want to take a look at.

    If Denver is thinking of using a first round pick to take a defensive end, this is a trade they should consider. Jordan is a high-risk, high-reward player, but may be better than anyone they could get in the draft at the position at pick number 31.

    If the Dolphins’ asking price is more than a first rounder, I would walk away from the trade immediately and say no thanks, but all things considered, this is a pretty attractive deal if the price tag is simply a first rounder.

    The Broncos may or may not call, but certainly the Dolphins will have some suitors for a talented, athletic, former top five pick that had everyone buzzing last offseason. Pass rushers are very valuable in the NFL, and with a rookie contract, a young guy like Jordan could be a really nice pickup for Denver.

    The Broncos are actually pretty high on 2013 fifth round pick Quanterus Smith, but in the NFL, you can never have enough edge rushers, as was evident last year for the Broncos who lost a significant number of players at DE or OLB to injuries.

    In Jack Del Rio’s scheme, Jordan could really play all over the place. He could rush from either edge position or standing as a linebacker. The Broncos could find creative ways to use he and Von Miller, as well as some of the other young players they are developing up front.

    Since 2011, the Broncos have hit big on front seven draft picks, despite some having unfortunate injuries. Starting with Von Miller, the Broncos have also added Derek Wolfe, Malik Jackson, and Sylvester Williams in the draft, all of whom could be starters on opening day 2014.

    If the Broncos get to free agency and feel like the best player they can get for the best price is Dion Jordan, I wouldn’t hesitate to offer a first round pick, or something of equal value. Perhaps a conditional pick based on his play in 2014 or beyond.

    Either way, this is an intriguing development and the Broncos should at least see what the Dolphins are looking for because adding a young pass rusher is never a bad idea.

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  • ChupaThingy
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    I'm inclined to say "no" based on what he's shown so far in the pros, even though I like seeing Oregon guys succeed at the next level. But I wouldn't mind bringing him in for camp and preseason to give him a shot. Maybe at a league minimum salary, not guaranteed, with some incentives based on play. Maybe he was truly in a bad system and had some bad injury luck. Maybe he might turn it around and become a steal. A diamond in the rough if you will.

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  • WYBRONCO
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    If Vance Joseph believes he can play I would be surprised if Elway doesn't bring him in. Joseph ought to know him pretty well.

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  • Rich_C
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    Originally posted by qbronco View Post
    Is he better than Barrett, Miller, Dora, or Ray? If the real reason he got cut was he couldn't pass a physical, why would anyone want him here? I would have to say no thank you to signing Jordan.
    I actually think that if this young man does in fact have the physical tools required to play in the NFL then we may in fact be uniquely situated to get him back on track. It was not the long ago where Von was in a similar position and he was given the benefit of Ware. Why not have Von pay that forward? This is all assuming a basic physical can be passed in the near future....worst case scenario you cut the guy. The best case scenario is you may have a top-shelf talent who will be on your roster for 2-3 years and likely get him at a steal of a deal....I truly fail to see the downside...

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  • qbronco
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    Is he better than Barrett, Miller, Dora, or Ray? If the real reason he got cut was he couldn't pass a physical, why would anyone want him here? I would have to say no thank you to signing Jordan.

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  • FR Tim
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    Interesting watching the draft clip. Fans go crazy. Analysts reaction is enthusiastic and the discussion of what he adds to Miami incredibly positive. Sad how a couple years changes everything. Now he leaves Miami in disgrace with a "biggest bust" label attached.

    Not seeing report of why he failed the physical. Knee? Apparently he missed all of last season due to the knee. Seems a long rehab. Or just a convenient reason to jettison him off the roster?

    Intriguing reclamation player at a rock bottom price. If he can even pass a physical by training camp. Would expect a non guaranteed minimum contract at best. Not seeing a great fit for him with the Broncos. DE or OLB? Not overly productive when healthy what would the expectations be now?

    I wonder how much interaction Joseph had with him last year? And more importantly his opinion on Jordan as a person and player.
    Last edited by FR Tim; 04-01-2017, 10:37 AM.

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  • Mosk
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    I knew this thread was coming as soon as he was released. As it is with a majority of players released. Jordan has been one of the bigger busts in recent memory and has never been a good pass rusher at any level. He had 14.5 sacks in 4 years at college, is that good? The only videos you could provide are him being drafted and a sports science segment. I'll take an easy pass on him.

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Jordan was never a good pass rusher evenin college. He might be better off switching back to TE at this point

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  • shawinkerpoppin
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    Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
    The DOLPHINS ruined his career??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Jordan





    Why did he get on the PEDs to begin with? He was drafted into a bad scheme fit and then when he started to develop a role in the defense it wasn't what they wanted they "requested" he bulk up which started the string of failed PED test. Lets not act like its unheard of for a player to be drafted to a team that uses them poorly or put a player in a poor position to succeed.

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  • Canmore
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    Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
    The DOLPHINS ruined his career??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Jordan





    He is not a fast learner.

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  • -Rod-
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    Originally posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    I think his career might be over. Dolphins ruined his career in my opinion.
    The DOLPHINS ruined his career??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Jordan

    On July 3, 2014, Jordan was suspended for the first 4 games of the 2014 season for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing substance policy. On September 19, 2014, Jordan again violated the drug policy and was given an additional 2 games to add for the suspension.
    On April 28, 2015, Jordan was suspended for the entire 2015 season for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing substance policy for a third time.

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  • samparnell
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    He'd be a project. Sounds like the place to begin may be in his head where all athletic success starts.

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  • FL BRONCO
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    If he could pass the physical and came in on the cheap prove it deal, I'd give him a shot. If we used him properly, he could definitely be an asset to our LB crew. I seem to remember when he came out he could rush the passer and could cover when asked too. I don't know about the health issues with the knee or if he can be the same again. But I personally think it would be worth a visit. I also believe we certainly have the locker room and coaches to help him turn it around.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    The article said that he was real comfortable in coverage but the dolphins wanted him to bulk up and play on the line instead leading to where we are now. But his coverage skills existed 30 pounds ago and it doesn't seem like his body has responded well adding all that extra mass.
    As you said that was 30 pounds ago, and I'm not sure how much he's dropped into coverage in the last 4 years?

    I think he's a never was. He got drafted to the wrong system, had no off field discipline and will end up being a guy who is an answer to top draft busts of all time.

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  • shawinkerpoppin
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    He's the size of a pass rush specialist, which amounts to a defensive end in nickel and dime situations for every defense. But does anyone have any idea if he can drop into coverage as a backer or anchor not he line as a base end? If he can't do either it means he's a specialist. The problem with that is that he's only ever put up 3 NFL sacks.

    Then you get to the bigger negatives, hasn't played a game since 2014. Was suspended 6 games in 2014 for drug violations, was suspended for the entire 2015 season due to drug violations and then had knee injuries which cost him 2016. And the Dolphins waived him after he failed a physical.

    So what's the draw to signing him? Maybe if it were a league minimum deal with no guarantee and he has to earn his job in camp, there's something, but it seems like a move that has no real upside to him being on the team.
    The article said that he was real comfortable in coverage but the dolphins wanted him to bulk up and play on the line instead leading to where we are now. But his coverage skills existed 30 pounds ago and it doesn't seem like his body has responded well adding all that extra mass.
    Last edited by shawinkerpoppin; 03-31-2017, 05:00 PM.

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